Eph

[JeffMcFluffy]

I know there have been plenty of threads about this in the past, but I couldnt find any via the search and I wanted the opinions of anyone who has used it or anyone who has any knowledge of usage?

Basically I'm not adverse to a little hard work, but I want to drop some serious weight / fat in the next month or two and I'll admit the idea of cheating a little appeals.

I have the diet in place and have increased my cardio, so just looking for any extra help.

Thanks in advance

[1colin]

http://astronutrition.com/weight-loss-weight-loss-ephedrine-ephedra-25_1/

aint sure if this is any help to you

[JeffMcFluffy]

http://astronutrition.com/weight-loss-weight-loss-ephedrine-ephedra-25_1/

aint sure if this is any help to you

Thanks. They actually look like they sell it online, I was of the opinion that it was an under the counter product?

[1colin]

iv always thought it is a under the counter thing but you can get anything on the net i suppose

[manimal]

i know people who have used it and they say its really good for losing weight, mainly through appetite suppression

[wagon]

Eph, caffine, asprin stack will do the job much better than Eph alone

just google it mate

[JeffMcFluffy]

Eph, caffine, asprin stack will do the job much better than Eph alone

just google it mate

Yeah I saw the stack, and saw that it was supposed to do the job better.

I tried a bit of googling but a lot of pages i found were biased one way or the other, i.e. it's some kind of miracle product, go to a different site and you'll be having heart attacks and what not. So when in doubt, thought I would see if anyone here had any experience using it

[Tomatohead]

Eph is a good fat burner but i beleive it is also catabolic so if your gonna take it only for short periods of time. Ive also heard continued used can cause psychosis. to be honest you'd be better off avoiding all together imo, try carnatine in liquid for and also combine it with cla. Not the thermogenic properties of eph but i think it works well.

[JeffMcFluffy]

Eph is a good fat burner but i beleive it is also catabolic so if your gonna take it only for short periods of time. Ive also heard continued used can cause psychosis. to be honest you'd be better off avoiding all together imo, try carnatine in liquid for and also combine it with cla. Not the thermogenic properties of eph but i think it works well.

Cheers mate. The more I read on it the more I'm thinking it's not worth it. The side effects seem to far outweigh the fat burning benefits.

I'll google the Carnatine and Cla as I've never heard of that before

[Tomatohead]

Carnatine is an amino acid that when taken on an empty stomach help with the fat transportation.

CLA is Conjugated Linoleic Acid again helps the lean muscle tissue to work harder in burning fat as it is a essential fatty acid can also be benifical for cognative fuction and skin health.

if you want the u can get them from me @ www.all-ages-vitamins.co.uk

[donna]

i used eph for a while on its own as the stack turned me into a raving headcase lol

had some good immediate weight loss effects but the mood swings are apparently not good to live with!! but eph was a good quick fix and gives you a good start but if you take it only do so for 4 weeks then stop for a week or 2 or your body gets used to them.

sida cordia(thingys) or hot rox are just as good and easier to get! the ones you get from the net are the plant extract ones so are not as good as the under the counter ones which of course are illegal !:p

[Tomatohead]

i sell Sida Cordifolia again very similar 2 eph good for clubbing not for training when u have 2 think unfortuantely

[donna]

i sell Sida Cordifolia again very similar 2 eph good for clubbing not for training when u have 2 think unfortuantely


yeah agree but then dont think any are much good when rolling, are there any others that are purely appetite supressants that are any good dont want the thermo affect really hate it/

[JeffMcFluffy]

This is all good stuff, thank you

[Tomatohead]

yeah agree but then dont think any are much good when rolling, are there any others that are purely appetite supressants that are any good dont want the thermo affect really hate it/

Hoodia Gordoni (http://www.all-ages-vitamins.co.uk/largeresult.asp?id=2380)is a good appetite suppressant its available in a complex with chromium (to stop sugar cravings) and Hydroxy Citrate (to emulsify fat making it easier 2 burn)

But suppressing your appetite isnt good, best thing is to eat little and often preferably ever 2 1/2 to 3 hours. This speeds up your metabolism and you dont get hungry as your constantly graizing as human are supposed to do.

Neither CLA (http://www.all-ages-vitamins.co.uk/largeresult.asp?id=1987)or Carnatine (http://www.all-ages-vitamins.co.uk/largeresult.asp?id=493)have thermogenic properties btw just good fat transport systems making it easier for your body to burn it off.

hope this is of some help ;)

[donna]

Hoodia Gordoni (http://www.all-ages-vitamins.co.uk/largeresult.asp?id=2380)is a good appetite suppressant its available in a complex with chromium (to stop sugar cravings) and Hydroxy Citrate (to emulsify fat making it easier 2 burn)

But suppressing your appetite isnt good, best thing is to eat little and often preferably ever 2 1/2 to 3 hours. This speeds up your metabolism and you dont get hungry as your constantly graizing as human are supposed to do.

Neither CLA (http://www.all-ages-vitamins.co.uk/largeresult.asp?id=1987)or Carnatine (http://www.all-ages-vitamins.co.uk/largeresult.asp?id=493)have thermogenic properties btw just good fat transport systems making it easier for your body to burn it off.

hope this is of some help ;)

thanx hun do you know if they are ok with thyroxine? do you sell on-line if so give us your link x

[Tomatohead]

thanx hun do you know if they are ok with thyroxine? do you sell on-line if so give us your link x

Carnatine and CLA are both fine chick website is www.all-ages-vitamins.co.uk just had a really good protocol written for women with thyroid probs 2 help treat it naturally if ur interested drop me a PM

[12oz]

have you considered clenbuterol? take two days on two days off.
theres some double strength chinese tablets about just now

[1colin]

have you considered clenbuterol? take two days on two days off.
theres some double strength chinese tablets about just now

or 2weeks on 2 weeks off

[JeffMcFluffy]

have you considered clenbuterol? take two days on two days off.
theres some double strength chinese tablets about just now

From what I've read there are similar side effects to EPH? Heart trouble etc?

[simmy]

have you considered clenbuterol? take two days on two days off.
theres some double strength chinese tablets about just now

Those .40mcg clens are fukin awesome..i was shaking as though i was in an earthquake..lol... Eca is a better option imo..2 weeks on/ 2 weeks completely off and repeat..

[donna]

Those .40mcg clens are fukin awesome..i was shaking as though i was in an earthquake..lol... Eca is a better option imo..2 weeks on/ 2 weeks completely off and repeat..


eca? forgive me for being thick? lo lwhat are they?

[Tomatohead]

ECA epherdrine asprin and caffiene 2 be honnest you should avoid a thermogenics with thyroid probs

[JeffMcFluffy]

eca? forgive me for being thick? lo lwhat are they?

EPH, Caffine and Aspirin combined... produces better results than just EPH I'm told

[Tomatohead]

really not good for any1 for thyroid problems

[donna]

EPH, Caffine and Aspirin combined... produces better results than just EPH I'm told

oh yeah see knew i was being thick if you check my thread further back duh!! should have been a blond

did eca but nearly killed several people (literally!) have been told that is not good for women to do eca as stack. got on ok with eph on own though except once a month when exagerated my pmt!!(which i thought was cool, but guys i rolled with disagreed!!):D :D