USN 17 Testo-Methox

[lee_whitehead]

Anyone given this a go? recommend it? experiences? alternatives?

[Tomatohead]

Never uysed this product but heard its highly over rated, what u want it for the protein synthasis or test boost?

[lee_whitehead]

looking at generally incrreasing muscle mass, strength and cut ft, I am on creatine, cla, protein and sida cordifola, but am plateauing... I need to shift some weight around my gut! :-o

[Tomatohead]

Come off the Sida cordifolia for a start, try incresing your protein and carb intake, wanna be looking at about 1.5g protein and 2 - 2.5 grm carbs per lb of weight. Alot of my customers are using Norateen HW II nowdays good protein synthsiser and good test booster, plus combining it with Discorea detoidia give u as close 2 u can get 2 steroids supposedly. Other option is going on the gear.

[lee_whitehead]

nah man, I have mates you use T3 and Clen, I really get on my high horse about roids... no feckin way!

what is the other stuff you mentioned? fat strippers? testo boosters?

why is sida so bad?

[Tomatohead]

Your should never try 2 build and cut at the same time plus im sure ive seen somewhere that sida is catabolic. Norateen heavyweight is a testosterone booster and protein synthasizer i.e helps your body absorb mor efficiantly. good glad some1 else look at roids same way i do

[lee_whitehead]

OK, so the Sida makes sense if its catabolic, I am basically looking at increasing muscle size and strength, but trimming the current fat level to balance right, I am going to be fighting at 93kg for the first time and want to get there via diet beforehand and minimal cut, maybe 1-2kg the day before.

so, as mucle weighs more than fat and I know I have some fat, I thought a thermogenic would help, but I have noticed nothing on sida and I have nearly done the course, with Thermobol it dropped off me, sida = no effect.

How about tribulus?

Roids are an easy way out of hard work and a danger to your longevity in my opinion

[Tomatohead]

OK, so the Sida makes sense if its catabolic, I am basically looking at increasing muscle size and strength, but trimming the current fat level to balance right, I am going to be fighting at 93kg for the first time and want to get there via diet beforehand and minimal cut, maybe 1-2kg the day before.

so, as mucle weighs more than fat and I know I have some fat, I thought a thermogenic would help, but I have noticed nothing on sida and I have nearly done the course, with Thermobol it dropped off me, sida = no effect.

How about tribulus?

Roids are an easy way out of hard work and a danger to your longevity in my opinion

When are you fighting??

[lee_whitehead]

2nd June @ UWC

I weigh 97 at the mo!

[Tomatohead]

keep on the CLA go for about 4000mg per day this will keep u leanish so you wont have 2 cut 2 much watch your carbs and sat fats in your diet. tribulus is good but works even better when combined with Long jack.

for cutting fat you wanna be lookin @ sup's like L-carnatine Seyrum works a treat ive cut about a stone since using that totally natural and not thermogenic so wont make you bounce of the walls. just 2 servings a day
10ml in the am on empty stomach and 10ml before workout again on empty stomach(by empty stomach i mean not eatin half an hour either side of taking it.)

6 meals a day if you have a good diet you should be doing this anyway tho. protien intake should stay high around 1.3-1.5 grm per pound of lean weight. get body fat checked if unsure.

2 cut excess water use HRI water balance one of the best supps for it and only costs £4ish.

If you want a diet doin drop me a pm ill put u in touch with some1

[lovegrove]

Tomatohead, can you recommend a good l-carnitine serum on your site. I know nothing about this stuff.

Do you rate Norateen Heavyweight II then? I remember a conversation I had with some of the bodybuilders at my gym, and they hated it. Said it was overpriced and did nothing. However, they were juiced up to the eyeballs (well, one of them was), so I guess that negates it.

[Tomatohead]

Not currently on the site, will be on in the next day or so. If you have any independant health food stores in your area the only decent one i have seen is by balance. around £10 for half a litre.

[manimal]

im not sayin that you should defo use them, but i would have a look at Creatine and Gakic. Creatine may cause some water retention, but u could come off a week or so before the fight - or try creatine ethyl ester. also bear in mind that creatine does not go well with dehydration to make weight.
plain creatine taken with alpha lipioc acid and some dextrose powder is prob best.
Gakic may be worth a look at too.

before i use a supplement, i always find out what the active ingredient(s) is and do a search on google scholar and ingenta.com to see if there is actually any decent research to support it. can be a massive waste of money otherwise.

isnt Sida a banned substance? dont spose it matters unless your competing under strict drug testing tho.

[1colin]

tomatohead is this the one your talking about?(carnitine)

http://www.auravita.com/products/AURA/ALSP21518.asp

[Tomatohead]

Thats the one

[1colin]

how much if i started taking this how much should i take they say 5 to 15 ml which is 1 t spoon to 3 t spoons but it says for 10ml you get 500mg of carnitine so really your getting 750mg for there max dose but im sure i read somewhere you want 1000 to 1500 mg which is double there max dose!

[manimal]

just reading up on l-carnitine, seems to be pretty good.

[Tomatohead]

i always recommend a total of 20ml per day 10ml am and 10ml b4 training

[1colin]

i always recommend a total of 20ml per day 10ml am and 10ml b4 training

so thats 1000mg a day then? on empty stomach

[Jamie Taylor]

Norateen is shit.

[1colin]

Norateen is shit.

and over priced

[Tomatohead]

Which 1 Norateen Norateen Hw Or Norateen Hw 2

[Tomatohead]

so thats 1000mg a day then? on empty stomach

yes mate.......