Triangle escapes

[SuntanSuperman]

On friday we were practicing triangles escapes. Now granted i dont have the greatest BJJ in the world, but we were letting each other put triangles on and then trying to work out of them.

So i triangled a lad called Eddie (very good guy from Fighting Chance) and had it on tight. i had pushed off his leg to create an angle, had his arm across, pulled his head down.....and thought that should be that......

but all he did was literaly posture up a tiny bit and run forward at full pace. this caused me to roll over on my neck and release th triangle. i tried hooking his leg...but couldnt stop him.

i'm bigger and stronger than eddie, yet he did this a few times and i could do fuck all to stop it. even Dave Hirst agreed that it looked like there was nothing i could do. anyone else ever had experience with this?

[spenna]

shame I might not be able to train friday I could have a look

[Sports-Select.co.uk]

hold the back of his head, that way he is supporting your weight and you just slide along the floor as he runs, (still with your triangle on) rather than it rolling you over.

[The Natural]

This thread just reminded me of a training session....im not anywhere near a good grappler...i have had experience of this with a guy who is relatively new to the grappling game and when i tried to get the triangle on he flung himself forward like a forward roll motion which took me over my own shoulder (backward rolling over a shoulder) making me release the choke....never worked out where he had learnt it or how he did it...i thought it was something that he just tried as he shit himself when the choke was coming on...obviously it wasn't after reading ur post. i'd be intersted to here if any1 else had seen this...the instuctor has never shown it in training...im now thinking he musta seen it in a dvd instructional. Im going to ask at the next training session.

[Predator]

have you tried locking out your hips?

so in theory when he goes to roll you over you will just slide across the floor

But without seeing it its hard to find a counter

[SuntanSuperman]

shame I might not be able to train friday I could have a look

if i'm allowed, i will happily come to a class when you are there and you can exlain it to me

[SuntanSuperman]

hold the back of his head, that way he is supporting your weight and you just slide along the floor as he runs, (still with your triangle on) rather than it rolling you over.

i was pulling down his head. i suppose i could kind of lift my self of the floor as he starts to run, but would probably just get slammed

probably just my shitty bjj

[Seca Sec]

roll with him? if its what I'm thinking you roll with him and end up in mount.

I did it in a grappling comp heres the vid (its at about 2.15 if you wanna skip to it) and it worked for me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk7Et-u9kAE

[Keon]

roll with him? if its what I'm thinking you roll with him and end up in mount.

I did it in a grappling comp heres the vid (its at about 2.15 if you wanna skip to it) and it worked for me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk7Et-u9kAE

that guy was short for MW.

jack your just a big bully!

K:cool:

[fightingfan]

Looks like that video shows you what to do, roll with them and switch to armbar.

[spenna]

yeah why not

[SuntanSuperman]

1 reason been that i'll probably take a worse kickin than khanie gave me from you....:(

see you friday then, or thursday if anythings going down

[spenna]

The beating from khanie was nothing to do with me, I gave my own.

[SuntanSuperman]

i didnt mean that!!!! lol

i meant the kicking i get from you will probably be worse than the one i got from him

[david5]

body oput to the side, then when he drives he' off balance and you fall into a mounted triangle. or switch to armbar

[SuntanSuperman]

david - you are clearly overestimated my bjj....i was just happy to get a triangle on lol....my heart broke when he didnt tap
tho did get some good slams in from clinch on him

spen - the lack of reply clearly shows my 'impending doom' status has now moved up to amber level 3..which is defined as 'he can't kill me in public....can he?!'

[spenna]

I am too nice to hurt people in training

[SuntanSuperman]

lulling me into a false sense of security = 'Imminent doom' status Red 1 - 'you should stick to fooseball brad, your good at that and it can't hurt you'

and i remember when you twistered me!!!

[Seca Sec]

that guy was short for MW.

jack your just a big bully!

K:cool:

he was a (huuuuge) lightweight I think. was in the openweight tournament at the end of the day...

[iandean]

couldn't you use your 'roid strength to powerbomb him?

[Dave Hirst]

I don't think I said it didn't look like there was anything you could do, but since I wasn't training I couldn't try it myself and see what to do though. It did look like an effective escape especially if the guy on the bottom isn't expecting it, but I think it should be possible to roll through with it, or thinking about it I might have tried hooking the leg as he stands up which would probably make it harder to run...

[VLee574]

ummm lol i would have loved to have read summat like this or learned some triangle escapes BEFORE MY FIGHT LOL or well i was unaware that you could even escape a triangle once it was on um DAM HAD I KNOWN MY 1ST FIGHT WOULD HAVE BEEN A LTTLE MORE SUCCESFULL LOL

[r-v]

you stack him and hold the back of his head like a neck crank and he will not be able to hold the T.C...Or you could jus pick him up and slam him lol:p

[VLee574]

i did slam him lol the kid just ddnt let go plus he had it on so tight that my explosveness was leaving me very quickly i slammed him twice

[Dave Hirst]

Lee you really need to be avoiding having the triangle applied in the first place rather than waiting til it's on before you start escaping... trying to escape a fully applied triangle is like trying to duck once you've been knocked out. When you come training with us we'll go over it loads :)

[spenna]

yeah but if you try and slam you way out you look cool

http://a413.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/27/l_d4df14497c47aed6b4c611a9fc2774dc.jpg

see the fear in his eyes

http://a390.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/36/l_7f8823e686d9917b79d7d64c7bc8da05.jpg

it made me famous

http://a709.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/16/l_9ccae417dbac2e827be53629869c93a4.jpg

to sum up .... it might not work but you will look cool and that is why we all fight .... to look cool and get chicks

[spenna]

oh pics done by Hywel

[Dave Hirst]

It's why I come training. I think I am overdue some chicks though, I mustn't be training right.

[SuntanSuperman]

to be fair though dave
you did manage to mess it up with a chcik who had a van damme collection and loved broken noses

clear proof that you deserve no more chicks

[Dave Hirst]

Oh yeah i forgot about that. I fucking rule.

[VLee574]

lol im coming to kings next thursday and ill be up most thursdays following so got plenty of time to develop my skills and get the chicks

[SuntanSuperman]

u have the skills hollywood
ill keep the chicks


'first you get the power, then you get the money, then you get the women!'
Homer Simpson

[Ben]

I am too nice to hurt people in training

bwhahaha no you just scare fat people by threatening to hurt them in sparring :p

[david5]

posture

........

[SuntanSuperman]

another great post by David5

[david5]

solves everything (including guillotines)

[Ben]

lol usually the answer is 'hips' or 'posture' in grappling

[SuntanSuperman]

shut it sausage

[david5]

lol usually the answer is 'hips' or 'posture' in grappling

oi porkie, what happened to your proper name?

[SuntanSuperman]

he ate it
:D

[Ben]

just fancied a change :D

Brad when you understand how to finish a triangle I will listen to you

[SuntanSuperman]

when you are thin enough to aplly a triangle...maybe i'll acknowledge your fat existence

[Ben]

when you are thin enough to aplly a triangle...maybe i'll acknowledge your fat existence

its my broad shoulders (because I bench more than you), if you are trying to triangle someone's stomach thats where you are going wrong ;)

[SuntanSuperman]

sausage...dont talk daft

not that i even brought it up, but i'm pretty sure a body triangle is a legitamte mma move...maybe a bit advanced for you tho gi boy

[Ben]

body triangle isnt a submission really. (yeah I know Ivan Salaverry got someone with a spine crank from the position but that was just wierd)

and anyway Brandon, we both know who would triangle who when we spar, gi or no gi

[James Saville]

when i wreslte with my friends , i can tap them with a body triangle squeeze thing

[Ben]

when i wreslte with my friends , i can tap them with a body triangle squeeze thing

I once tapped a traditional jiu jitsu guy with a bearhug from bottom sidecontrol, that doesn't mean it was a submission :p

Although it might work on Bradikins :D

[SuntanSuperman]

body triangle isnt a submission really. (yeah I know Ivan Salaverry got someone with a spine crank from the position but that was just wierd)

and anyway Brandon, we both know who would triangle who when we spar, gi or no gi


Ben, you have never ever ever triangled me!

[Ben]

er yes I have, I remember distinctly doing it the first time we rolled in the saturday bjj class you were wearing a silly black gi

However it was as good as when I wristlocked you :p

[david5]

black gis are fucking sweet

[SuntanSuperman]

er yes I have, I remember distinctly doing it the first time we rolled in the saturday bjj class you were wearing a silly black gi

However it was as good as when I wristlocked you :p

oh, you meen when i said 'ben, i have broken my hand - so dont grab it' and then you wrist locked me...how clever

still not a good as me punching you in the face

[Ben]

oh, you meen when i said 'ben, i have broken my hand - so dont grab it' and then you wrist locked me...how clever



lol I forgot sorry - I blame Ross, he told me to do it so I did it :D

black gis make you look silly

[SuntanSuperman]

I Make Anything Look Good

[Ben]

except when you do bjj. thats just ugly to watch

[mmashay]

that guy was short for MW.

jack your just a big bully!

K:cool:

Thats the absolute class, pat is a light weight.

Very nice sub though

[SuntanSuperman]

except when you do bjj. thats just ugly to watch

its a pretty kind of ugly