Justice/Truth?

[Ali]

Don’t just wait passively for an opportunity to vote for justice. Voting for justice is as ineffective as wishing for justice; what you need to do is to actually be just. This is not to say that you have an obligation to devote your life to fighting for justice, but you do have an obligation not to commit injustice and not to give injustice your practical support.

“Under a government which imprisons unjustly, the true place for a just man is also a prison.… where the State places those who are not with her, but against her, — the only house in a slave State in which a free man can abide with honor.… Cast your whole vote, not a strip of paper merely, but your whole influence. A minority is powerless while it conforms to the majority; it is not even a minority then; but it is irresistible when it clogs by its whole weight. If the alternative is to keep all just men in prison, or give up war and slavery, the State will not hesitate which to choose. If a thousand men were not to pay their tax bills this year, that would not be a violent and bloody measure, as it would be to pay them, and enable the State to commit violence and shed innocent blood. This is, in fact, the definition of a peaceable revolution, if any such is possible.”

Henry David Thoreau, 'Civil Disobedience'

[Emmet J]

Define 'justice.'

[ginandtonic]

Don’t just wait passively for an opportunity to vote for justice. Voting for justice is as ineffective as wishing for justice; what you need to do is to actually be just. This is not to say that you have an obligation to devote your life to fighting for justice, but you do have an obligation not to commit injustice and not to give injustice your practical support.

“Under a government which imprisons unjustly, the true place for a just man is also a prison.… where the State places those who are not with her, but against her, — the only house in a slave State in which a free man can abide with honor.… Cast your whole vote, not a strip of paper merely, but your whole influence. A minority is powerless while it conforms to the majority; it is not even a minority then; but it is irresistible when it clogs by its whole weight. If the alternative is to keep all just men in prison, or give up war and slavery, the State will not hesitate which to choose. If a thousand men were not to pay their tax bills this year, that would not be a violent and bloody measure, as it would be to pay them, and enable the State to commit violence and shed innocent blood. This is, in fact, the definition of a peaceable revolution, if any such is possible.”

Henry David Thoreau, 'Civil Disobedience'


have you got the right forum, ali? even the right country? have you been brain-washed by some cult evolutionary psychologist? define injustice, please.

[ginandtonic]

Define 'justice.'

ah same train of thought as myself. what is injust to one may be just to another, ali.

[Ali]

ah same train of thought as myself. what is injust to one may be just to another, ali.

That's the point. It's to stimulate your sense of moral conscience and your understanding of what is 'Justice'. For you to reflect upon and discuss.

[ginandtonic]

That's the point. It's to stimulate your sense of moral conscience and your understanding of what is 'Justice'. For you to reflect upon and discuss.

thanks mr serious

[ginandtonic]

does your just conscience include looking at porn?:D :D

[ginandtonic]

ali my suggestion would be this before you come pontificating to others about the just, unjust and injust take a look at yourself and make sure you aren't a fraud first:)

[Ali]

Every human, without exception, has their own flaws and imperfections, that does not mean they have to forfeit their right to a moral conscious, or to look away when they see an unjust system.

I never once stated that I am free from impurities.

I have not lectured you nor anyone else here about their ethics either. I may have commented, as we are all at liberty to comment on this forum. Just do not confuse yourself with threads for contemplation with declarations.

[Emmet J]

Then, in all honesty Ali, what is this thread about?

You may as well have come on and said: "What is Justice?"

It would have been just as annoyingly vague and pointless, but at least people would have had something to address.

[Ali]

Then, in all honesty Ali, what is this thread about?

You may as well have come on and said: "What is Justice?"

It would have been just as annoyingly vague and pointless, but at least people would have had something to address.

I take it you missed the question mark at the end of the title eh? I found this piece of literature and though it was interesting, so I chose to share it with you on this forum.

Forgive me for the usual error in my judgement.

[Emmet J]

Lol.

So your question was 'Justice/Truth?'

What a master of language you are.

Here is another then: 'Waste/Time?'