Kevin Chan promoted to Black Belt & 6 new Brown Belts @ RGA

[J-Sho]

Roger Gracie's father, the legendary Mauricio Gomes promoted one of his original students, Kevin Chan, to Black Belt today.

Roger Gracie, Felipe Souza, Jude Samuel, Gustavo 'Sidi' and approx 70 other students were present to witness the promotion, which also saw Steve Finan, Marcus Collinson, Richard Burletson, Vernon O'Neill, Jason Gregoriades and Gerald Ashby Promoted to Brown Belt.

Lex Deasley was promoted to Purple Belt.

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[fightingfan]

Where's video of him being flogged by other students?

[steve_langford]

awesome stuff!

[D-TEC]

Soon we wont need any Brazilians how will they exploit BJJ for cash then!

[steve_langford]

Soon we wont need any Brazilians how will they exploit for cash BJJ then!

lol your asking for it!!!

[D-TEC]

I owned one a very very exspensive pet! had to send it back my above statments true! But I fear the quality of BJJ in the UK is slipping anyway lower belts are given away like sweets nowadays

[steve_langford]

I owned one a very very exspensive pet! had to send it back my above statments true! But I fear the quality of BJJ in the UK is slipping anyway belts are given away like sweets nowadays

I kmow mate lol

can you PM me how much it cost you in the end?

heard things before but its a bit hard to believe lol

[david5]

I owned one a very very exspensive pet! had to send it back my above statments true! But I fear the quality of BJJ in the UK is slipping anyway belts are given away like sweets nowadays

are you saying kevin chan doesn;t deserve his black belt?

[Ben]

either that or he got passed over for promotion and is a little bitter?

[steve_langford]

Kevin chan deseves his black belt....
2005 worlds (silver)
2005 Pan Ams (bronze)

There are some BJJ players in the UK that certainly dont deserve there grades.........

Got to be honest though, BJJ is getting watered down compared to years ago!

Kevin Webb of Gracie Barra Birmingham is still a purple belt! He is one of the best people ive ever trained with!

[david5]

Kevin chan deseves his black belt....
2005 worlds (silver)
2005 Pan Ams (bronze)

There are some BJJ players in the UK that certainly dont deserve there grades.........

Got to be honest though, BJJ is getting watered down compared to years ago!

Kevin Webb of Gracie Barra Birmingham is still a purple belt! He is one of the best people ive ever trained with!

with all due respect this may be true, it may also be true that the people giving out the belts know better than you do. whatever the case it's disrespectful to be bringing this up on kevin chan's thread

[steve_langford]

with all due respect this may be true, it may also be true that the people giving out the belts know better than you do. whatever the case it's disrespectful to be bringing this up on kevin chan's thread

No disrespect but i said Chan deserves his black belt!!

What I was trying to say is ...

when Kevin Webb is awarded his Black belt , he will be shit hot also

read the posts correctly before you make comments.............

[david5]

listen dickhead, read MY post carefully before being patronising, what you are saying is braulio doesn't know when it's fit to promote people, i didn't mention you talking about chan at all.

what i DID mention was talk of people not deserving their belts on a belt promotion thread is blatantly disrespectful, if you don't understand this you are a moron. Anything further you wish me to clarify?

[steve_langford]

listen dickhead, read MY post carefully before being patronising, what you are saying is braulio doesn't know when it's fit to promote people, i didn't mention you talking about chan at all.

what i DID mention was talk of people not deserving their belts on a belt promotion thread is blatantly disrespectful, if you don't understand this you are a moron. Anything further you wish me to clarify?


LMFAO

when did i say ''braulio doesn't know when it's fit to promote people''??........................

What I did say is ''Kevin Webb is still a purple belt'' , meaning that he is awesome for a purple belt........

anything else you need me to clarify?

[D-TEC]

Does Kevin Webb pay his subs on time? that could be a BIG factor in his lack of promotion?

[steve_langford]

david5 is ignorant and justs wants to have a little internet row , calling people Dickhead is not nice! maybe he got all nasty because he knows he's wrong??

[steve_langford]

Does Kevin Webb pay his subs on time? that could be a BIG factor in his lack of promotion?

lol Kevin Webb is one of the instructors :D

Would be worth having him for a seminar mate! Nogi or gi!

[david5]

LMFAO

when did i say ''braulio doesn't know when it's fit to promote people''??........................

What I did say is ''Kevin Webb is still a purple belt'' , meaning that he is awesome for a purple belt........

anything else you need me to clarify?

no that'll do, i accept you meant that he;s just good for a purple not that he should be ranked higher. d-tec is still a dickhead though

[steve_langford]

no that'll do, i accept you meant that he;s just good for a purple not that he should be ranked higher. d-tec is still a dickhead though

You shouldnt call people dickhead! its not polite.

[david5]

d-tec and this forum have past history, he doesn't deserve my respect, steve

[Ben]

There are some BJJ players in the UK that certainly dont deserve there grades.........

Got to be honest though, BJJ is getting watered down compared to years ago!


lol listen to the expert. Why do you think it is watered down?

Just because there are more purples and browns around?

[steve_langford]

lol listen to the expert. Why do you think it is watered down?

Just because there are more purples and browns around?

No not at all , because Ive heard something today that not many people will have heard!....If you had of heard it you would agree....trust me.

[D-TEC]

lol Kevin Webb is one of the instructors :D

Would be worth having him for a seminar mate! Nogi or gi!

I asked Rob "G" the other week if HE would like to do a workshop, He said he would ask Braulio I had a pm back saying Braulio dident think it was a good idea I can only surmise that because Braulio was not making any money out if it he did not want his students teaching? I can see no other reason? we have always had a good relationship with GB.

[Ben]

No not at all , because Ive heard something today that not many people will have heard!....If you had of heard it you would agree....trust me.

oooo gossip pm me it then :D

[steve_langford]

I asked Rob T the other week if HE would like to do a workshop, He said he would ask Braulio I had a pm back saying Braulio dident think it was a good idea I can only surmise that because Braulio was not making any money out if it he did not want his students teaching? I can see no other reason? we have always had a good relationship with GB.

maybe its because your De La Riva?

politics

[Duchman]

yeez.. How about just giving Kevin Chan props.. Any one who gets a black belt in bjj is someone to look up to. Its a hard road.. Esp under Roger, Mauricio.

Dtec, Steve,
YOu are not the only ones to have problems with bjj instructors.. Same like people having trouble with boxing coaches etc.. Not very cool to spout this on a topic of someone geting a bjj black belt imho.. Just give kevin chin some props.

Note i am not Gracie barra, i dont even know this dude.. But take it somewhere else :)

a bjj fan :)

[steve_langford]

yeez.. How about just giving Kevin Chan props.. Any one who gets a black belt in bjj is someone to look up to. Its a hard road.. Esp under Roger, Mauricio.

Dtec, Steve,
YOu are not the only ones to have problems with bjj instructors.. Same like people having trouble with boxing coaches etc.. Not very cool to spout this on a topic of someone geting a bjj black belt imho.. Just give kevin chin some props.

Note i am not Gracie barra, i dont even know this dude.. But take it somewhere else :)

a bjj fan :)


well done Kevin Chan.........

[D-TEC]

maybe its because your De La Riva?

politics

I doubt it mate we opened our doors to GB and all other teams when De La Riva was at my academy so??? + I asked for NOGI so no politics:(

Quite right Duchman Well done kevin chan! lets take it to PM steve b4 the pajama party have a cow lol

[TRIBULUS]

well done Kevin Chan, top bloke, great jiu jitsu.

[J-Sho]

There are some BJJ players in the UK that certainly dont deserve there grades.........

Got to be honest though, BJJ is getting watered down compared to years ago!

Kevin Webb of Gracie Barra Birmingham is still a purple belt! He is one of the best people ive ever trained with!
Kevin Webb is very good for sure, i think he may be injured at the moment(?) hope it clears up if so and we see him competing again soon. I would say he, Luciano and Mike Russell spring to mind as the best UK based purples at the moment but there are plenty who could be mentioned.

In general i think the quality control on British Black, Brown and Purple belts is pretty good, you can see a fairly definitive list here: http://www.efnsports.com/forum/index.php?board=25.0

I think i know the certain player you are referring to but it is unnecessary to mention it on this thread - if you feel that strongly about it, perhaps you could take it up with the black belt in question?



Where's video of him being flogged by other students?
Conveniently for them, Black Belts don't get belt whippings.



No not at all , because Ive heard something today that not many people will have heard!....If you had of heard it you would agree....trust me.
Well PM me and tell me then :)

[speedball]

well done Kevin, great achievement

[Simon Hayes]

Kevin Chan is a very, very good BJJ technician who fully deserves this great honour.He has put time,effort and energy into the sport.He has helped build UK BJJ into the art it is today as well as competing (all over the world) in the last 8 years and receiving some great results.

As well as being a great BJJ Competitor,Kevin has dedicated his life to the Martial Arts-passing on his Wing Chun method to thousands of students,keeping that art alive and well.He is not just a highly respected member of the UK BJJ Community,but a much admired member of the Worldwide Martial Arts Community.

Well Done Kevin.

It is a great shame that whenever someone has put blood,sweat and pain over the years into BJJ, staying loyal to their team and Instructor,
there are always a few internet MMA wannabe's who feel it is appropriate to make comments about UKBJJ.

These people are usually guys who couldn't wait and put the time into learning the art of BJJ and it's technical system.It was easier for them to take off their Gi's and practise Ground and Pound on a heavy bag lying on the floor of a Gym.

The strange thing is,you will never find proper Professional MMA fighters
talking about "UK BJJ gettting watered down" and people "Not deserving their Belts".
Because as Professional Athletes,real MMA fighters generally have a healthy respect for the students and teachers of all the different arts that make up
what we call MMA.
Professional Athletes know what it is like to win AND lose in competition and as such,will congratulate people on Belt Threads,OR,if they feel congratulations are not deserved,they will say nothing at all.

That is because,of all the Professional Athletes i have met,especially in Combat Sports,most are gentleman and sportsman.

The rest are wannabe's who won't last long.

Especially not long enough to be recognised as a leader in their chosen field of the Martial Arts.


Simon@Carlson Gracie Revolution Team



"Kevin Chan is fired by the genius that has inspired the great masters of the past. He is a classical master of the future." GEOFF THOMPSON






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[Rob T]

I asked Rob T the other week if HE would like to do a workshop, He said he would ask Braulio I had a pm back saying Braulio dident think it was a good idea I can only surmise that because Braulio was not making any money out if it he did not want his students teaching? I can see no other reason? we have always had a good relationship with GB.

WTF? Not me mate!

I assume you mean Rob Stevens??

[Rob T]

...and as for the subject, congrats to all (may as well post this here as well as EFN).





I always think, if people have a problem with any belt promotions they should speak to the instructor who gave out the rank. People don't do that though, because they're pussies. People also won't name who they have an issue with, for the same reason. Either tell it straight to the people you're criticising (the people who gave out the promotion) or shut the fuck up.

[Duchman]

Kevin Chan is a very, very good BJJ technician who fully deserves this great honour.He has put time,effort and energy into the sport.He has helped build UK BJJ into the art it is today as well as competing (all over the world) in the last 8 years and receiving some great results.

As well as being a great BJJ Competitor,Kevin has dedicated his life to the Martial Arts-passing on his Wing Chun method to thousands of students,keeping that art alive and well.He is not just a highly respected member of the UK BJJ Community,but a much admired member of the Worldwide Martial Arts Community.

Well Done Kevin.

It is a great shame that whenever someone has put blood,sweat and pain over the years into BJJ, staying loyal to their team and Instructor,
there are always a few internet MMA wannabe's who feel it is appropriate to make comments about UKBJJ.

These people are usually guys who couldn't wait and put the time into learning the art of BJJ and it's technical system.It was easier for them to take off their Gi's and practise Ground and Pound on a heavy bag lying on the floor of a Gym.

The strange thing is,you will never find proper Professional MMA fighters
talking about "UK BJJ gettting watered down" and people "Not deserving their Belts".
Because as Professional Athletes,real MMA fighters generally have a healthy respect for the students and teachers of all the different arts that make up
what we call MMA.
Professional Athletes know what it is like to win AND lose in competition and as such,will congratulate people on Belt Threads,OR,if they feel congratulations are not deserved,they will say nothing at all.

That is because,of all the Professional Athletes i have met,especially in Combat Sports,most are gentleman and sportsman.

The rest are wannabe's who won't last long.

Especially not long enough to recognised as a leader in their chosen field of the Martial Arts.


Simon@Carlson Gracie Revolution Team



"Kevin Chan is fired by the genius that has inspired the great masters of the past. He is a classical master of the future." GEOFF THOMPSON

Good stuff! totaly agree

[r-v]

Well Done to Chan

[marc goddard]

Simon Hayes.....spoken like a true gentleman.

Your post is littered with so many "signature worthy" quotes it's scary. You have been in my head and stole my sentiments !

Top man.

Well done Kevin Chan.

[shakus maximus]

well done kevin chan. awsome achievment

excellent post by simon hayes as always

regards shaky

[adamfromessex]

simon hayes for prime minister.

second that, was thinking it, you worded it perfectly.

Adam

[zippy]

Well done to Kevin Chan, one hell of an achievement and to be given it by Mauricio must have been a great moment for him. Looks like UKBJJ is getting stronger every week.

[graham cooke]

im pretty sure kevin chan used to live in portsmouth and he definitely had a kamon wing chun school in the city too. Im pretty sure though that he had schools all over the south and may have moved away from portsmouth altogether and left the school to senior students?

Can anyone tell me if he teaches a bjj class in pompey, or in the surrounding area please?

Congrats on his achievement.

[Rob Hannis]

Well done Kevin on the black belt, all the haters moan away don't let it take anything away from your achievement.

I remember fighting kevin when he was a blue belt at one of the early KSBO ground fighting comps in Nottingham and he was a really sound guy then.

[the ref]

his brother is an associate of mine. I'll find out about classes.

[J-Sho]

http://www.kamonwingchun.com/

[dave coles]

Congratulations to Kevin, saw him fight in the Masters & Seniors in Rio a few years ago - a warrior on the mat and a gentleman off it.

Quality post from Simon to put this thread straight