Dwain Chambers dope cocktail!!

[Sports-Select.co.uk]

Some info on Dwain Chambers steroid/insulin/epo blend :

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics/athletics/7400566.stm

Again bought to my attention on www.iron-city.net

[DetoxGuru.com]

no wonder he had delts "to die for "

[The Natural]

Sports select...

any chance u would cut and paste that iece in iron life as i cant access it...and would like 2 read it..

[Sports-Select.co.uk]

Dwain Chambers is set to give a remarkable chapter-and-verse account of his drugs regime in 2003 to Britain's anti-doping authorities.

The sprinter will also reveal how drugs cheats are continuing to outsmart the testers and get away with it.

The explosive information is contained in a letter, which BBC Sport has seen, from his supplier Victor Conte for British anti-doping chief John Scott.

Chambers will deliver the letter when he meets Scott in London on Friday.

Conte's prescription
Read the letter in full
The meeting will take place at the headquarters of UK Sport, the agency which funds elite sport in this country and currently runs Britain's anti-doping program.

Scott first called on Chambers to come forward in an interview with BBC Sport in March. Chambers' camp contacted him two days later to schedule a meeting.

"I can confirm we are meeting John Scott," the sprinter's lawyer Nick Collins told BBC Sport.

"The intention is to open up a dialogue with UK Sport and to be as helpful as possible in their fight against doping. We will be taking the letter with us and discussing its contents."

Chambers failed a test in 2003 for the designer steroid tetrahydrogestrinone (THG) but that was only one of seven banned substances the 30-year-old Englishman was taking at the time.

THG, or "the clear", was the premier doping product supplied by Conte's Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative (Balco), the California-based sports supplement firm which would become more famous for its sideline in performance-enhancing drugs.

All of the substances Chambers was taking are listed in former Balco boss Conte's letter, as are the schedules for their use and the amounts that were administered.

Conte has told BBC Sport this combination of drugs, which was put together with the 2003 World Championships in mind, was the "most sophisticated doping program in the history of sport".

The document, which reads like a cheat's charter, reveals:


• Chambers was taking THG, a testosterone/epitestosterone cream, blood-boosting drug EPO, human growth hormone, insulin, a "wakefulness agent" called modafinil and liothryonine, a synthetic form of thyroid hormone. Conte lists the brand names and amounts used of each drug.



Balco mastermind Conte believes it sometimes takes a thief to catch a thief
• The majority of these substances were used in "three weeks on, one week off" cycles through the winter, which is when sprinters do the bulk of their strength training. They would be taken - usually on Monday, Wednesday and Friday - in conjunction with an intense weight-lifting programme.


• While Chambers was using THG, which was designed to be undetectable, fast-acting testosterone would also have passed most tests. Oral testosterone clears the system in less than a week and testosterone creams and gels even faster.


• Athletes to this day, Conte claims, are using "duck and dodge" tactics to get away with cheating. These include filling up their mobile phones with bogus messages so they cannot be reached by the testers and putting misleading information on their "whereabouts" form.


• Cheats skip tests whenever they are worried about a possible fail. As they are allowed three misses in an 18-month period, this amounts to two free passes. Conte believes the missed-test allowance should be reduced to one.


• Not enough no-notice testing is done during the off season, according to Conte. He says more than half of all out-of-competition testing should be done between 1 October and the end of year, when cheats are most likely to be doping. Despite his calls for action, the majority of testing is still done during the competitive season.


Chambers, who completed his two-year ban in 2005, has never before revealed the details of his doping program but has promised Scott full disclosure when they meet.

But what may prove more useful to Scott - and whoever replaces him as Britain's anti-doping tsar when the new National Anti-Doping Organisation is set up later this year - is access to Conte himself.

I have more information I would like to provide but I will leave that for another time

Victor Conte
Chambers, who impressively claimed a 60m silver medal at the World Indoor Championships in March, has remained close to Conte and still receives nutritional advice from him.

The 57-year-old American, who served a four-month prison sentence for conspiracy to distribute steroids and money laundering, is determined to reinvent himself as a poacher-turned-gamekeeper. He is also back in the sports supplements business, although this time they are legal.

Conte, who is now free to travel after serving a two-year probation period, says he is willing to fly to London to help UK Sport improve its detection methods.

"I have provided detailed information to both Usada (United States Anti-Doping Agency) and Wada (World Anti-Doping Agency) in attempt to help them establish more effective testing policies and procedures," said Conte.

"I certainly have more information I would like to provide to the British authorities but I will leave that for another time."

Chambers, who has just completed a month-long trial with rugby league side Castleford, has returned to sprint training with a view to competing in the British trials for this summer's Olympics in Beijing.

Any success in those trials, however, will be hollow unless he can overturn the lifetime ban imposed upon him by the British Olympic Association.

A decision on whether Chambers will challenge that ban in the High Court is believed to be imminent.

[The Natural]

Thanx man...appreciated...;)

[The Natural]

sorry for being a pain in the ass but have u the piece on iron city...cant access in work..:rolleyes: :(

[Hywel Teague]

good vid...

[Sports-Select.co.uk]

sorry for being a pain in the ass but have u the piece on iron city...cant access in work..:rolleyes: :(

Ah sorry, it's a BBC piece, the contents of which are posted above and the link is in my original post. It was just bought to my attention when the piece was linked from Iron City so I thought it polite to credit.

[bigleeroy1]

i think dwain gets a hard time i competed in track and feild as a junior sprinter for many yrs and have met dwain often hes a really sound down to earth guy and was at a level where he was on the top stage competing with the yanks who it wuld be probally harder to find one not on gear all he was doing was leveling the playing field and i dont blame him at all

[The Natural]

aaaaaaaaaaahhhhh...i see...bit slow on the uptake!!

As regards dwaine...gr8 athlete..its just that he was caught that his name has been blackend...look at Carl lewis, he was Ben Johnstons biggest critic when he tested positive and then he himself tested positive a few years later!!

sport in general appears to be tinted with the so called 'steriod scandal'. More and more sports men appear to be reverting to this type of 'self medication'...hense the increase in the amount of people testing positive...it appears to be the norm in many high profile sports where the monitary returns are high, or the chance of injury is a possibility, when training regimes are so intense that the body requires assistance and even in aiding recovery in injury rehabilitation...everyone is looking for the edge..

Its sad really...

[The Natural]

Just outa interest....was there ever any documentation produced that named and shamed the steriods that ben johnston had been using when he produced those phenomenal figures all those years back??

[DetoxGuru.com]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanozolol

[Cheets]

Just outa interest....was there ever any documentation produced that named and shamed the steriods that ben johnston had been using when he produced those phenomenal figures all those years back??

Everybody always accuses him or rather his coach/doctor of dosing him with Winstrol - but its pretty doubtful its a v.weak steroid and easily detectable
(in terms of getting caught you may have well just stuck a needle in your backside on the blocks)

At the time of his conviction the governing bodies had been worried about winstrol as it was starting to grow in popularity amongst female athletes in the off-season due to the reduced masculising effects of the drug - plus reports were that masking agents were on the verge of getting way better many feel they simply blamed winstrol in Ben Johnsons case as a warning shot to others.

[John Hopton]

Didn't carl lewis recently suggest it should be a criminal offence to take performance enhancing drugs. I don't agree with doping in sport but that has to be one of the daftest things I've ever heard

[DetoxGuru.com]

What A 2 Faced Prick Carl Lewis Was ( Is? ) , Great Athlete Though

[Sports-Select.co.uk]

Didn't carl lewis recently suggest it should be a criminal offence to take performance enhancing drugs. I don't agree with doping in sport but that has to be one of the daftest things I've ever heard

Well since there is prize money at stake could it be construed as fraud, or deception with intent to defraud etc.

[John Hopton]

Well since there is prize money at stake could it be construed as fraud, or deception with intent to defraud etc.

I must admit I hadn't thought of it that way; but by that logic wouldn't a deliberate handball in football also be a criminal offence? If not, where should the line be drawn?

[Rob Hannis]

This story really winds me up, Dwain got caught held his hands up and is doing what he can to help reduce the drug taking in sport. Then the british olympic association won't budge.

Fair enough he cheated but you can bet he is now tested at every meeting and gets treated like shit by everyone. Unless you live in a cotton wool filled world you are aware that a very high proportion of athletes will be using something to help them out.

There's a lot of money flying around at the top end, there's glory and there's wanting to be the best. It only takes a couple of things to push these athletes from being on the clean side to the dark side.

The whole anti doping program is out dated, there just for show really because we all know that it's way behind the special vitamin technology out there. I bet that there are even some doctors employed by uk athletics to help source the appropriate "supplements" for the athletes.

I watched a bbc program about HGH and how a lab had spent millions of the IOC's money developing a better test for HGH. If I'm correct the current testing will only detect HGH a couple of days after use. This company developed one that could detect it for up to 3 weeks after use, but the IOC would not allow it for the olympics, think the reason was something about it not being tested properly, despite the company following all of the IOC procedures. Just stinks of not wanting to catch anyone, how tarnished would the olympics be if the a) brought the test in and caught out a load of athletes or b) a load of the athletes pulled out in advance to avoid being caught? I'm certain this is a reason for them having outdated testing as they know it occurs but haven't got the balls to take the initial flack a load of positive tests would cause.

Now I'm not anti doping as I beleive that it is so widespread now the playing fields are relatively level again, it's just the denial of the institutions that annoy me.

With all these conspiracy theories I'm starting to sound like detoxguru!

Rant over

[The Natural]

This is a great thread...lots of intellectual stuff being talked about for a change..:D

The system is undoubtedly corrupt and as the video showed the althletes have a three strike system over an 18months period...

If they really wanted to catch people then it would be far more stringent with stricter rules implemented. It appears from the outside looking in that the authorities know that it is a sport in which millimeters makes a champion and the slightest edge is the differance between winning and losing. But dont get me wrong here, these athletes are of unquestionable pedigree and are truely the creme du la creme of their respective sports without the gear. By taking the enhancers they simply are looking to secure immortality within their sport and want to be remembered as one of the greats...

Look at the times some of the modern day athletes produce...and of course there are a number of influencing factors as modern day training methods increase the bodys capablities ...

ie...
Better diets, the importance of rest and recovery, efficent training methods, etc...but of course, IMHO, gear is the dirty seedy secret that lyes beneth it all that everyone is reluctant to speak about..

Maybe im just synical..but i dont think so...:)