Current Thai Schedule

[Nak-Muay]

Got 3 PM's this week saying 'what are you doing' pretty much...

7:00am - 5KM run, mostly up hill... yay!!!
7:30am - Shadow Boxing
7:45am - Bag work 6 x 5 minute rounds (at the end of each round you do either 30 seconds of fast knees, fast punches, fast push kicks, etc)
8:30am - Pad work 3 x 5 minutes
8:50am - 250 knees, 200 push kicks, 100 round house kicks

12:00pm - 1000 Kick technique routine (100 of 10 different kicks)
12:45pm - 1000 punch technique routine (100 of 10 different punches / elbows)

16:00am - 5KM run, mostly up hill... yay!!!
16:30am - Shadow Boxing
16:45am - Bag work 6 x 5 minute rounds (at the end of each round you do either 30 seconds of fast knees, fast punches, fast push kicks, etc)
17:30am - Pad work 3 x 5 minutes
17:50am - 250 knees, 200 push kicks, 100 round house kicks

18:00pm - 19:00pm - MMA, mainly sparring, bit of technique... no cardio thank feck! :D

Basically morning is pretty difficult, afternoon is purely technique and power, evening is pure torture ;) In my spare time I read a lot and two things Bruce Lee has been quoted as saying really hit me:

I fear the man who has practiced 1 kick 10,000 times... not 10,000 kicks 1 time.

Which is why I have been so intensive on practicing my punches and kicks every day. I do 1000 punches and 1000 kicks 7 days a week, just to practice the mechanics and the power of them. I think in UK, a lot of people would benefit from doing it after classes... that's one of the biggest differences in Thailand as opposed to the UK. Here it is all about repetition, repetition, repetition... Punch, punch, kick, block, block, kick... Where as in England a lot of places teach all this fancy stuff, where pretty much every lesson you end up learning something new.

Any way, is going well for me so far, got a new article for fighters only I need to send them tomorrow O:-)

[DetoxGuru.com]

make sure you take some shit to look after your joints mate doing all that punching and kicking!!!

glucosamine and msm being the main two!!

gav

[Jamie Taylor]

6 hours a day. That looks like a fucking hard days graft.

MMA sparring ? No cardio ? Certainly feels like cardio when I spar lol.

Sounds like your doing well pal. Just out of curiosity are you still fighting mmalien when you come home ?

[The Natural]

Cracking insight m8,

It gives us part timers a look in2 what we should be doing when training properly...

1,000 kicks and punches is bad ass!!!:cool:

Could u give some insight into the most common kicks/punches/elbows that are done??...
I dont know if i know 10 of each?!

[Nak-Muay]

1. Jab
2. Cross
3. Left Hook
4. Right Hook
5. Left Elbow
6. Right Elbow
7. Left Uppercut Elbow
8. Right Uppercut Elbow
9. Left Smash Elbow
10. Right Smash Elbow
Usually I will do 50 body hooks left and 50 body hooks right also

1. Left round kick
2. Right round kick
3. Front Push Kicks
4. Back Push Kick
5. Switch Push to Round kick
6. Side kick
7. Back Kick
8. Right Knee
9. Left Knee
10. Hook Kick (not spin!)
Usually I'll do about 20 spinning heal kicks because I miss them, haha. And the Thai's love em, seeing as they don't really have spin kicks here...

[widge milward]

Nice work mate, keep everyone updated.

But i agree with the repitition idea, it is common sense, id rather have 4-5 techniques that i can fall back on any time and know they are effective rather than know 100's of techniques that i cant complete at 100% efficiency.

[The Natural]

Thanx man...appreciated!:D

Quick question..do thai's practice defense alot or is it mostly done on pads??

i.e the trainer gives u a combo 2 complete then attacks u with, for example, a low kick which u will have to block??

Or is defense trained separately and then ALL put together when sparring??

Might seem like a NOOB questions but im genuinely interested in their training methods..

[Nak-Muay]

Thai's train defence A LOT, actually Thai defence is usually offence. Try punching a Thai and usually you'll find they lean back and leg kick you, punch you with a flurry and then launch a round kick from no where.

They are also amazingly good at blocking, look up 'Thai block' on google, I find Thai's probably the hardest people to spar against. Their blocks are stunningly quick and their counters are quicker.

A typical Thai counter is 'block - kick' and Thai's spar A LOT, it is just very slow paced with punches, although they spar kicks and clinch full speed :)

[Nak-Muay]

Oh and in answer to your question about how it is practiced, both.

You will do 200 blocks before training... 50 left blocks, 50 right blocks, 50 right cross leg blocks, 50 left cross leg blocks

Then in pad work the trainer will often launch a leg kick, round kick, etc at you. Also the trainers get quite aggrivated at times when you don't pick something up, I've been blasted in the legs a few times when I am being lazy or failed to pick something up and you learn to block or limp for a couple hours, lol.

I think it is good though, I mean... I know in Japan / China there are masters who literally beat their students (or used to, not sure if it happens any more?), which is too far. But I think being kicked or punched a couple times when you are not trying hard enough pushes you a great deal more than someone saying nothing or saying 'please try again' you know?

I think I gave this example before, but I was at WMC and although my punches and kicks were alright, my knees and elbows were shite. All the trainers said were 'feet up' whatever the feck that meant. For 3 weeks I was frustrated at WMC just copying movements and being told 'feet up' and 'back straight' and generally just being told stuff, it got boring and I probably got 10 minutes of individual tuition over 2 hours a day, if that.

Then I went to SuperProSamui, the first day I was there, having never been shown knee's 'Thai' style before I was told to go in the ring and a trainer would go through them with me. I did about an hours one on one with the guy and within 15 minutes every time I did one wrong he would make me do 10 press ups, after 30 minutes I was concentrating so damned hard on the knee's because I knew I was at my pressing up limit. So was so intent on getting it right it was un-real, literally my mind went blank and it was all I thought about for the remaining 30 minutes... Was awesome and since I have always been complimented on my knees.

Reason being WMC is 'World Muay Thai Council' and therefore ran and aimed for 'Tourists'. SuperPro is trained by Thai's for train Thai's and if Westerners want to come, they can.

[The Natural]

excellent post..great insight to how things are really done in thailand..

sorry for another noob question - but what is a 'right and left cross block'? Simply a a leg check? Or is a leg check a 'right and left block'?

Keep it coming!!!:D

[ReD_mIst]

....I think in UK, a lot of people would benefit from doing it after classes... that's one of the biggest differences in Thailand as opposed to the UK.....

It always amazes me the lack of focus from "fighters" in the gym. When I started Thai I was always the first one there (usually waiting for the coach, until he gave in and let me have a key) at least 45 mins before the session. All I would do is practice one technique each session for 45 mins.

These days, I'm not fighting or training to that level... yet, I am still the first person there. You would think that the new fighters would be there before me practicing there techniques...?


Here it is all about repetition, repetition, repetition... Punch, punch, kick, block, block, kick... Where as in England a lot of places teach all this fancy stuff, where pretty much every lesson you end up learning something new.

I think that people in the UK can be impatient. We do a lot of reptition of basics in the Colosseum and you can see people getting bored. They are always after learning some new techniques, instead of focusing on getting the ones they know up to a high level.

[Tommo]

Pretty interesting mate, im looking to go over there in Jan for 3 mths if all goes according to plan so I might contact you for a bit of advice!

Only thing im confused about is the run being mainly uphill...... do you not start & finish at the same place then??!

[Nak-Muay]

sorry for another noob question - but what is a 'right and left cross block'? Simply a a leg check? Or is a leg check a 'right and left block'?

Difficult to explain, it is for blocking leg kicks and stopping knees... imagine doing a normal 45 degree check and then moving it to face inwards, rather than outwards, quite difficult! Will try get a photo.


Only thing im confused about is the run being mainly uphill...... do you not start & finish at the same place then??!

Nope. :P


It always amazes me the lack of focus from "fighters" in the gym. When I started Thai I was always the first one there (usually waiting for the coach, until he gave in and let me have a key) at least 45 mins before the session. All I would do is practice one technique each session for 45 mins.

Same here, I used to see people waiting around at 6:30pm for a 7:00pm class, the gym empty and just talking and that. Only 1/2 people out of about 15 would actually do some bag work / skipping.

[Duchman]

first of all, aplin.. Great job on writing dude.. realy enjoy it.

Second repetition is the mother of all skills. It so weird.... That people dont drill untill they piss fucking thai kicks

[ReD_mIst]

Difficult to explain, it is for blocking leg kicks and stopping knees... imagine doing a normal 45 degree check and then moving it to face inwards, rather than outwards, quite difficult! Will try get a photo.

Most Thai classes will cover this, it's a pretty standard cross block. If you imagine a standard shin check, which is done to the outside (i.e. your left leg checking an attackers right kick). The cross block is to the inside, i.e. your left leg blocking an attackers left kick

[The Natural]

aggghhhhh...i've got u now Red Mist..

thanx for the explaination aplin..with u and red mists explaination i think i've hit the nail on the head..i think!!..:D

Blocking the inside leg kick - left leg blocking ur opponents left inside kick?...i know this block..good stuff!

[ReD_mIst]

That's probably the one and of course you can use it with the other leg.

It's an interesting block, not as quick as the standard block, but can open some interesting spinning attacks

[The Natural]

thanx for the info...:cool:

[widge milward]

We do a lot of reptition of basics in the Colosseum and you can see people getting bored. They are always after learning some new techniques, instead of focusing on getting the ones they know up to a high level.


Basics are all you need, like Aaron has said, alot of people want to learn a new fancy spinning strike of some crazy ass submission instead of drilling a right cross etc

[Nak-Muay]

Today, Keng (Samui under 65KG champ) is training for a fight, so upon hearing this I asked if I could train with him, kinda like 'training in the shoes of a champ' for just one day...

After about an hour I almost died and the total training time clocked in at 2 hours and 35 minutes... I finished it all, but right now I can hardly move and it is a weird feeling, not like muscle ache, but like I have no oxygen in my muscles... weird!?

Anyway, it was 5 x 5 minutes of pad work that got me and then we did this drill, you need three people. One holds the bag, whilst one of you stands to the left and the other to the right. You take it in turns firing kicks into this bag, once you have done 50 each you move around. So the person kicking with the right leg gets to hold the bag, the person kicking left has to kick the right side and the person previously holding the bag now kicks the left side.
You rotate until you have done 150 kicks each (1 set of 50 and 2 sets of 50). Then it becomes like a came, keep in mind these 150 kicks have been full power and full speed almost like you are competing against each other.

Then the game begins, you have to fire in as many kicks as possible (still taking it in turns) when you are really, really knackered you beg to hold the bag and the bag holder has to kick. By this time you're all fucked and can manage about 25 full powered kicks before swapping... If you have 1 slacker you may end up kicking and only getting a 10 kick break for example.

The best way of doing it is having three groups of three and competing who can last the longest and do the most kicks. Count them out loud, etc... damned... I am fecked... gonna eat and sleep now =(

[Nak-Muay]

3:45 - 15 minutes of skipping
4:00 - 30 minutes of shadow boxing
4:30 - 5 x 5 minutes on bag
5:15 - 5 x 5 minutes on pads
6:00 - Bag kicking drill (3 x 50 + ??)
6:15 - 10 minutes cycling (HIIT)
6:25 - 100 Kicks

When I left Keng had started 250 knees and 250 push kicks, I said good luck to him, lol.

[spunky]

i need help,
am 15stone a bit muscle but i want to strip down and lose fat and i am finkin bowt using steriods wot steroids shud i take 1st time round i am stinking to a no fat diet and doin allot ov trdmill work,

any body got a clue

[fighterchick]

Hi. i have asked a similar question on here recently and got slated. please beware. i would look elsewhere for genuine diet advice as i got some pretty nasty comments. if you want advice on dropping weight and steroids you should check out uk-muslce.co.uk.

[bigleeroy1]

mate you dont need the gear pm me and i will give you some die and cardio advice i hear stapes 360 is also very good at his nutrition.

fighter chick stop trying to put genuin posters in need of help off asking qestions just coz you are stupid.

[mmashay]

More training storys please............. excellent post!

[Nak-Muay]

Back in the UK and trying to adjust back to the higher tempo of 3 x 3 minute rounds.

My current schedule is after a session of 30 minutes running, 30 minutes sparring and 5 x 3 minutes pad rounds.

3 x 3 minutes pyramid shadow boxing with weights i.e:
3 mins x 5ibs,
3 mins x 3ibs,
3 mins x 0ibs

Round 1 - As many double round house kicks in 3 minutes as possible
Round 2 - As many front kicks as possible in alternation in 3 minutes
Round 3 - As many knees as possible in aliternation in 3 minutes

3 x 3 minutes of skipping

Round 1 - As many Jabs in 1 min, As many crosses in 1 min, as many hooks in 1 min
Round 2 - As many Jabs in 1 min, As many crosses in 1 min, as many hooks in 1 min

Round 3 - As many Jabs in 1 min, As many crosses in 1 min, as many hooks in 1 min

15KG weight doing a non stop circuit of 80 reps, repeat 3 times.

200 x sit ups - last 50 to be hit with pad as hard as possible, trainer should be trying to make you breathe out or quit.

Takes about 2 hours, doing it twice a day right now... Bit unorganised, so trying to sort it out :(

[pauljono1120]

woah.. you work hard. doesnt it kill u getting up that early and going for a run? :O

[coleman.sensei]

Got 3 PM's this week saying 'what are you doing' pretty much...

7:00am - 5KM run, mostly up hill... yay!!!
7:30am - Shadow Boxing
7:45am - Bag work 6 x 5 minute rounds (at the end of each round you do either 30 seconds of fast knees, fast punches, fast push kicks, etc)
8:30am - Pad work 3 x 5 minutes
8:50am - 250 knees, 200 push kicks, 100 round house kicks

12:00pm - 1000 Kick technique routine (100 of 10 different kicks)
12:45pm - 1000 punch technique routine (100 of 10 different punches / elbows)

16:00am - 5KM run, mostly up hill... yay!!!
16:30am - Shadow Boxing
16:45am - Bag work 6 x 5 minute rounds (at the end of each round you do either 30 seconds of fast knees, fast punches, fast push kicks, etc)
17:30am - Pad work 3 x 5 minutes
17:50am - 250 knees, 200 push kicks, 100 round house kicks

18:00pm - 19:00pm - MMA, mainly sparring, bit of technique... no cardio thank feck! :D

Basically morning is pretty difficult, afternoon is purely technique and power, evening is pure torture ;) In my spare time I read a lot and two things Bruce Lee has been quoted as saying really hit me:

I fear the man who has practiced 1 kick 10,000 times... not 10,000 kicks 1 time.

Which is why I have been so intensive on practicing my punches and kicks every day. I do 1000 punches and 1000 kicks 7 days a week, just to practice the mechanics and the power of them. I think in UK, a lot of people would benefit from doing it after classes... that's one of the biggest differences in Thailand as opposed to the UK. Here it is all about repetition, repetition, repetition... Punch, punch, kick, block, block, kick... Where as in England a lot of places teach all this fancy stuff, where pretty much every lesson you end up learning something new.

Any way, is going well for me so far, got a new article for fighters only I need to send them tomorrow O:-)


I take it you are a full time professional fighter. if not how do you fit work into your schedule?

sounds like an awesome workout. i thought i was working hard doing a run or bike in the morning then training at the gym and mma.

[Luke]

I think this was his schedule when he was out in Thailand.