Caged Steel Part Ways.

[Cagedsteel]

I am just wanting to announce, that as of now, Caged Steel will no longer be advertising in Fighters Only magazine. My decision has come about predominantly because of their seeming lack of intrest in the UK MMA scene. This is underlined by only a half page articles on Cage Rage and Ultimate Force in issue 39. This I feel is unacceptable with the sheer number of events been organised around the UK, and to not give the shows the credit or even the respect they deserve by not reporting on them I feel is wrong.

I appreciate the relationship we have had with Fighters Only up to this point and will certainly miss working with their team.

We will be advertising in the first edition of MMA Unlimited which will be released in August.



Jamie Thwaites
MANAGING DIRECTOR CAGED STEEL FIGHTGEAR

[widge milward]

MMA Unlimiteds issue 0 was quality! No doubt it will continue and its coverage of the UK shows was quality

[bigleeroy1]

i like fighters only but the uk mma coverage is poor but i do understand why they have to keep it to a minimum, i was suprised they had no report on the last cage gladiators event in there latest issue tho.

[Predator]

I see it from both views.

Basically covering local MMA wont sell to the general "TUF era" fan. As since i dont know many sales they get from that group it'll be hard too tell. I personally buy fighters only every month and think its very good but would also like to see more UK MMA coverage.

There is enough room in the magazine to cover both IMO.

BTW i also thought the first issue of MMA unlimited was very good.

Not sure if parting ways is very smart, A wise man in UK MMA once told me " Dont burn bridges" and its very true.

[James Saville]

i rember when fighters only use to cover , pride and glory and other grass root shows..i can under stand why had to include more international shows..but..its a bristish based mag...we should be showing off what the uk has to offer to the rest of the world.

[mark.aldridge76]

ive got every issue of fighters only and have noticed the drop in uk mma reports.:mad:

[Rich Austin]

We do need a magazine that covers plenty of the UK Scene no doubt, but I do like Fighters Only, the only thing I dont like apart from the lack of UK coverage, is that all the news by the time it comes out is old hat.

[Muay Thai Fan]

back in its early days UK events used to get full page and even double page spreads, i know cage rage still does (sometimes) but the other top shows, like cage warriors, cage gladiators, FX3, angerr management, AMMA etc etc should get better coverage, maybe this is what FO needed as a kick in the ass, we want batter and more UK coverage

[Dave Hirst]

I liked the UK stuff. I used to get my picture in it and all sorts.

[AlexEnlund87]

The way i see it the casual fan does not care about grass roots mma at.. The casual fans are the biggest target group so covering Major Events and Big Name Fighters in Interviews is clever buisness, as this still appeals to the hardcore uk fans who have a greater interest in the uk scene. Hence covering both areas in the market maximizing sales.

[Team Supreme]

(Bites his lip)

" Don't get me started on this"

[Luke]

I remember once being quoted in FO.

[FELLA]

... is that all the news by the time it comes out is old hat.

Same could be said of pretty much anything though; football transfer rumours, computer game reviews etc.

You need information fast, the 'net is the way to get it.

Any monthly magazine is gonna have old news, even a week is a long time in the MMA world these days.

[genesis]

From a sales point of view having a top 10 fighter signed tgo the ufc on the cover will produce 10x more sales than any top 10 fighter signed to a uk org.

I was impressed with the mma unlimited mag and will be defo getting that for the uk coverage

[The Crazy88]

I am prepared to read both publications in WH Smiths. I can't say fairer than that.

[pie eater]

I liked the UK stuff. I used to get my picture in it and all sorts.


Surely it has not been publishing that long !!! ;)

[r-v]

I am prepared to read both publications in WH Smiths. I can't say fairer than that.

Cheap Cunt :p

[Nimmy]

i really like your ad desgin at cage steel, out of interest whats the rate on a full page in FO?

[Cagedsteel]

About double that of an American publication with a readership of over 100 Thousand. It is expensive but with it been the only UK MMA magazine in the Uk untill MMA Unlimited, It was the only mainstream way to advertise to the UK MMA community.

Jamie

[Nimmy]

About double that of an American publication with a readership of over 100 Thousand. It is expensive but with it been the only UK MMA magazine in the Uk untill MMA Unlimited, It was the only mainstream way to advertise to the UK MMA community.

Jamie

my magazine has a circulation of around 7,000 copies roughly 22,000 readership, distributed across the UK and selected copies into Europe and North America, sadly its not about MMA but our rate card is £2,9750 however we would sell for about £1,500, you book a series and its cheaper obviously.

point im getting at is that we have competition on the market, until now FO hasnt really had any competition and therefore its the only outlet to reach the market besides point of sale and the internet. i think that FO may have got a little lazy and neglected the UK scene due to ambitions to become a more global product, but they forgot that their bread, butter and circulation are UK based.

maybe more companies will share your view and follow this path, lets hope that the rival doesnt fall into the same trap.

i still say that id prefer to know what products you have or what offers you have by direct mail or email, id sign up for it if i didnt get the spam. hellova lot cheaper for you and you know im getting it

[Cagedsteel]

[QUOTE=Nimmy;191942]my magazine has a circulation of around 7,000 copies roughly 22,000 readership

Nimmy, what magazine do you have? It would be interesting to know. Also, how do you get from a circulation of 7,000 to a 22,000 readership? You sell 7,000 or 22,000. I only ask because I am only now been enlightened to the dark art that is magazine sales.

Jamie

[fishface]

Beware of the dark arts Jamie, not for the faint hearted ;)

F

[Nimmy]

[QUOTE=Nimmy;191942]my magazine has a circulation of around 7,000 copies roughly 22,000 readership

Nimmy, what magazine do you have? It would be interesting to know. Also, how do you get from a circulation of 7,000 to a 22,000 readership? You sell 7,000 or 22,000. I only ask because I am only now been enlightened to the dark art that is magazine sales.

Jamie

sure jamie, our circulation is just over 7,000 copies of the magazine in general the readership of a magazine is never one person per copy, its generally around 2 - 2.5 persons per magazine. my magazine services the commercial fishing magazine and is a trade magazine therefore it is read by mulitple persons per issue.

like FO my magazine is a monthly title therefore the magazine will have a shelf life and desktop life of one month which in turn means that it is read more than a weekly with similar circulation. i for one have nearly every issue of FO in my house which if i am looking for something and cant find it on the net (first port of call assuming i know the product/company started from either FO or here) i dig out the magazine.

does your advertising produce results for you?

feel free to PM me Jamie if you would like any other advice on advertising

[Rich Austin]

Jamie Im guessing he means he sells 7000 copies but eventually through mates reading mates copies etc etc that the average readership is 22k, bit of a bummer all them tight extra free readers lol

[Nimmy]

Jamie Im guessing he means he sells 7000 copies but eventually through mates reading mates copies etc etc that the average readership is 22k, bit of a bummer all them tight extra free readers lol

yeah kinda, as its trade it will sit in staff rooms, onboard ships, in cafes around the ports etc... also most of of our circulation is free of charge

[coventrywarrior]

I dont know what all the fuss is, i have a web site that has 12.5 million hits a month and 105,000 unique visits a month and on average grows by 8% a month and you can all advertise on this site for a very minimal fee. for futher info contact tony.mac@cagewarriors.com

[TheUnfitOne]

I dont know what all the fuss is, i have a web site that has 12.5 million hits a month and 105,000 unique visits a month and on average grows by 8% a month and you can all advertise on this site for a very minimal fee. for futher info contact tony.mc@cagewarriors.com

ladies and gentlemen we have a winner

[martoxx]

I definitely have to agree with this thread! UKs number one gets beat,Tengiz Tedoradze, and nothing gets mentioned in the mag?!?!?!? Unbelievable..

[Luke]

Speaking of advertising if anyone wants an ad in the next Thetford and Brandon Pink Directory (which goes out to 17,000 houses around the area) and is a business in the area, this includes Martial arts gyms (Bluewave MMA??) then PM me. lol... while we're all doing shameless plugs!

[steve_langford]

Fo need to take note IMO

[shakus maximus]

I definitely have to agree with this thread! UKs number one gets beat,Tengiz Tedoradze, and nothing gets mentioned in the mag?!?!?!?

totally agree pal

[UltimatePunch]

I think fighters only should have a look at some of th boxing mags that you can buy, (Boxing monthly, Ring etc) Not only do they cover the big fights and events but also amatuer fights and fighters, interveiws and club listings, Rankings and everything between. Its nice to see whats happeming at both ends of the spectrum, from the glitz and glamour of the big time fights to the grit n guts of the lower end. UK mma is growing so fast a new mag could easliy snatch alot of FO readers away

[Alex Gold]

At least the training section is still awesome though...

[Seca Sec]

At least the training section is still awesome though...

yeah and whoever models the gloves and shorts for the review section has really nice hands and legs!

[Thetruthwillsetyoufree]

Felt the need to comment on this post as basically all this seems to be a blatant plug for this new magazine MMA unlimited and you are using the fact that certain UK based MMA events did not get the level of coverage
you think they deserved. I do not know you personally Jamie, but do you post all your advertising/business decisions on chat forums for all to see and then add to the end on the post that you will be advertising in a new magazine. Next time you decide to change the supplier of your company stationary, will that be posted on the forum with an explanation that you are now using Bobs Pens and Paper because they cover a wider selection of UK made products?

What ever the reasons you have based the decision on, who cares where you advertise your company, it just seems strange that the second post from this thread is from the owner of the new mag. All looks a bit co-ordinated to get some cheap publicity from the forum. And your comments in a later post on this thread saying that there prices are double what they are for an American based Magazine, well after just coming back from the states practically everything there is half the price anyway so whats your point?

I am all for a new UK based MMA magazine that will help to increase the awareness of the scene here in the UK, and that can only be good for the sport. The more mainstream coverage that MMA gets, the more interest that will be generated for this sport. Every industry and catagory normally has two main players that dominate the market, such as Nike and Adidas for trainers, Coca Cola and Pepsi for cola. It's well documented that competition in any industry generates more interest in the catagory than just one main player, so its great that this new magazine is coming out.

Bitching about the content of Fighters Only magazine and then using that to plug your own company and this new mag is not cool.

[MMA RULES]

I definitely have to agree with this thread! UKs number one gets beat,Tengiz Tedoradze, and nothing gets mentioned in the mag?!?!?!? Unbelievable..

Well said..................................

[Cagedsteel]

The main reasons for saying what I said are two fold. Firstly, as Cage Warriors is the top MMA Forum in the UK and is frequented by most of the true MMA fighters / enthusiasts, I thought it the best place to announce my intentions. Secondly, I wanted people to know what Caged Steel are doing, and did not want us to just dissappear from a magazine and people sumising what may have happend to us!

This has had nothing to do with MMA Unlimited, but the length and tone of 'thetruthwillsetyoufree's post would suggest an affilliation with FO. Never seen you before and this is your first post!!!!

Jamie

[ReD_mIst]

Bitching about the content of Fighters Only magazine and then using that to plug your own company and this new mag is not cool.

Not that I agree or disagree with both the views on FO or Caged Steels initial thread... but he whole point of a forum is exactly the above!!! To be able to discuss topics of interested to people who have MMA in common. That includes the content of either magazine and or the promotion of a new magazine.

I'm sure that FO are professional enough to take on board the comments from it's readers and MMA fans and the fans are shrewd enough to choose the magazine they prefer, if they have to choose at all. there is room for both magazines and healthy compeition is good for everyone involved

If you are struggling with the concept of a discussion forum, I suggest you don't bother posting.

[Godders]

I dont know what all the fuss is, i have a web site that has 12.5 million hits a month and 105,000 unique visits a month and on average grows by 8% a month and you can all advertise on this site for a very minimal fee. for futher info contact tony.mac@cagewarriors.com


Yeah wheres my article in a UK MMA magazine :(

[ReD_mIst]

Maybe there is room for a UK magazine?

for example, the afformentioned Boxing Monthly (the only magazine I subscribe too) has excellent international coverage and some good, but brief UK coverage. If you want UK coverage, then you buy Boxing News. A cheaper product, but cover all of the deomestic scene in a lot of detail.

Are we at a stage where the UK MMA scene could support something like this, leaving FO to focus on the world MMA scene?

[stapesmk1]

Maybe there is room for a UK magazine?

for example, the afformentioned Boxing Monthly (the only magazine I subscribe too) has excellent international coverage and some good, but brief UK coverage. If you want UK coverage, then you buy Boxing News. A cheaper product, but cover all of the deomestic scene in a lot of detail.

Are we at a stage where the UK MMA scene could support something like this, leaving FO to focus on the world MMA scene?

Great call. With that many shows in the UK at the minute, a weekly round up of headlines and results with smaller individual articles, interviews and profiles and more space dedicated to events and fighters would be fantastic. Doesnt have to be glossy and packed with all the trainiing, nutrition and features that would keep you busy for a month. Leave that to FO.

(Also, is it me, or do other people notice the amount of typos and mistakes in FO?)

Stapes

[reddog]

Flicking thru the current FO copy and the website I would have to disagree that the magazines' content is not UK focused. I think it provides a good balance between a rapidly growing mainstream sport globally and the UK scene. The sheer volume of news from the USA dwarfs our own UK news just by actual size and therefore the frequency of content, not as a bias one way or another.

Having said that I think FO and the Scum teaming up for the Worlds MMA Awards is misguided and that this should have been the UK MMA Awards (including UFC now they are a permanent UK fixture). But if the Scum believes that there is a sport out there called UFC and if they've been paid handsomely to say so, then why argue with them?

You would think a UK paper would promote or even throw in the odd report about UK MMA, but sadly it appears not to.

But then my decision to withdraw all of my advertising from the UK's biggest selling tabloid following Hillsborough unfortunately didn't change anything either.

[Team Supreme]

We were approached by FO for a "sponsorship" deal, the deal that was put to us was:
If PaulTaylor and his corner crew wear sponsored by Fighters Only T shirts for the UFC, he will get some coverage in the magazine.
I think I am a reasonable helpfull kind of person so I said look, Paul already has sponsors and they pay him so you can't expect him to ditch them it's unreasonable, however I will put a Fighters only patch on our gear free of charge to support the magazine. I was told that this was unacceptable and it had to be a FO t shirt.
Now forgive me if I am wrong, but, I would have thought that a UK fighter who was in the UFC and is on his second contract with two fight of the nights, may and I do mean may, be worthy of some coverage.
If a magazine has the monopoly on the market they are able to make these kind of demands, I personaly feel that it is outrageous and I am sure that some of you would like to read about fighters like Paul.

I know I will have burnt all the bridges in writing this post so don't expect to read anything good about us again, I just think that sometimes people need too know.
I welcome your comments, please tell me if you thik I am being an arse :)

ps I do think the mag is good but the above is not

[ReD_mIst]

You are being an arse :D

[ReD_mIst]

I think it's a fair point and you have made a reasonable counter offer. I'm not sure what FO's strong point was, Paul is already on the UFC, so getting coverage in FO isn't really going to break any new ground or expose him to new audiences. The relationship would only really of benefited FO, not Paul, so a patch for nothing was a great offer....

... they should of taken it!

[Duchman]

i want be in fighters only.. ill wear a shirt anywhere :(

[Rob T]

I used to buy FO but only got the first 4 issues or so. I don't really see any reason to buy it anymore.

The news is out of date (which can't be helped but doesn't make it any less true), the training section is stuff you can see a million other places and some of the jiu-jitsu techniques have been below par. The equipment reviews aren't in depth enough, the editorial/opinion pieces are usually just fluff (the only ones I've enjoyed have been Grant Waterman's, I read my mate's copy sometimes) and I'm not that interested in reading interviews with fighters.

Grappling magazine used to be good with loads of techniques but that's gone shitty now with hardly any tech stuff at all.

[graham cooke]

im surprised there has been no comment on this from someone at FO.

I subscribe to the mag and think its great, i especially like the interviews and training section, Rosi's stuff in there is ALWAYS good (as is Alex and Barry's )but some of the things i have read here, particularly the post from team supreme re: paul taylor surprised me.

I definitely think there is room for another mag and if their "niche" is reporting ALL uk news then so much the better. I'll buy that one too :) Which reminds me, can we still get issue 0 of mma unlimited? For some reason i missed the boat on that one!! :(

[Team Supreme]

You are being an arse :D


Are you standing in for Widge mate ?

[ReD_mIst]

Are you standing in for Widge mate ?

I would never be able to 'dumb down' to Widge's level....

[widge milward]

Jon, id of called you a cunt ;)

IMO the patch for free was something you didnt have to do, but being the neice guy you are (even though i didnt get a yellow trackie from you) you offered them exposure.

Like Aaron said Paul is already in the UFC so he has nothing to gain, magazines will always write about him for his balls to the wall style of fighting, its not as if he will lay and pray for a dec, needed favours to compliment him.

[Team Supreme]

[QUOTE=widge milward;192154]Jon, id of called you a cunt ;)

Thanks I thought you had stopped talking to me



LOL @ Aarons "dumb down" comment (I am stealing that)

[TheUnfitOne]

The bottom line is that competition is good in any industry as it forces everyone to raise their game, I'm sure both magazines will welcome it.

[widge milward]

ill have you both know, im a very clever person who is borderline Genius.

[MMA Unlimited]

Felt the need to comment on this post as basically all this seems to be a blatant plug for this new magazine MMA unlimited and you are using the fact that certain UK based MMA events did not get the level of coverage
you think they deserved. I do not know you personally Jamie, but do you post all your advertising/business decisions on chat forums for all to see and then add to the end on the post that you will be advertising in a new magazine. Next time you decide to change the supplier of your company stationary, will that be posted on the forum with an explanation that you are now using Bobs Pens and Paper because they cover a wider selection of UK made products?

What ever the reasons you have based the decision on, who cares where you advertise your company, it just seems strange that the second post from this thread is from the owner of the new mag. All looks a bit co-ordinated to get some cheap publicity from the forum. And your comments in a later post on this thread saying that there prices are double what they are for an American based Magazine, well after just coming back from the states practically everything there is half the price anyway so whats your point?

I am all for a new UK based MMA magazine that will help to increase the awareness of the scene here in the UK, and that can only be good for the sport. The more mainstream coverage that MMA gets, the more interest that will be generated for this sport. Every industry and catagory normally has two main players that dominate the market, such as Nike and Adidas for trainers, Coca Cola and Pepsi for cola. It's well documented that competition in any industry generates more interest in the catagory than just one main player, so its great that this new magazine is coming out.

Bitching about the content of Fighters Only magazine and then using that to plug your own company and this new mag is not cool.

bhawahahahahahahaaha

Widge are you my business partner? I did think this post could be someone from FO but they know who is behind MMA Unlimited.

I am going to stay out of this as we are just getting on with our own magazine to stick on the shelves just next to FO to let the readers decide if they like ours or not. There is a lot we can or could say about our plans and ideas but we'd rather not give too much away.

Issue 0 is still available by emailing info@mmaunlimitedmag.com with your name and address.

Issue 0 is far from the finished product and that was our intention as we knew we would have this 2 to 3 month gap from issue 0 to issue 1 as we had to secure a distribution deal to get on the news stand.

Why not get the distribution deal first? Because the SENI was too good of an opportunity to miss out. We handed out 1000's of magazines over the weekend and had the opportunity to speak to people about the magazine etc etc.

As Dave Hirst pointed out on an earlier thread there were some very stupid and unforgiveable typos in Issue 0 but I for one am glad they happended because now they wont be happening again.

We look forward to launching Issue 1 and no doubt we'll be plugging about that nearer the launch date.

We are delighted that Jamie at Caged Steel has committed to our publication and we look forward to working together for many years to come.

Regards,
Simon

[joeymac]

(Also, is it me, or do other people notice the amount of typos and mistakes in FO?)

Stapes

Couldn't agree more. I really like the magazine in general, but the amount of typos and mistakes in the magazine is so annoying. I end up forgetting what im reading and just wondering how on earth the magazine got to print with all the errors. Id be happy to proof read it in exchange for a copy :p

[markjitsu]

people have been complaining about the lack of uk mma coverage in f.o. for ever.
it's clear that they simply don't care about these complaints and therefore have demonstrated that they are not interested in appealing to readers interested in the uk mma scene.
that's my opinion anyway.

[Thetruthwillsetyoufree]

In response to the question of have I any involvement with Fighters Only magazine then the answer is No. I made the comments because of what I said in the first post.

If you took the time to read the post I would have thought even a below par IQ would have seen the fact that I am up for this new magazine and the more MMA coverage the UK scene attracts is good for the sport.

The bottom line is don't try and kid people on the forum or yourself that this post is nothing short of business related with the content of the opening post. If it wasn't then the post would have been a discussion on Jamies opinion that FO did not give the amount of UK MAA coverage he thought it deserved, and then open it up for discussion.

I have the "Collectors" as they called it edition of MMA unlimited and if I am really honest I see very little difference in the amount of UK coverage that FO have. It's a really nice magazine and hopefully it will take off, but if this was a new magazine to focus on the UK MMA scene why put Dan Henderson on the front cover and why cover Hans Molenkamp in an article.

There are plenty of UK fighters that could have gone on the cover and boosted the UK MMA scene, but the bottom line is most people on the fringes of the MMA scene like joe public actually think the sport is called the UFC and that is what they call it. So in $£ or whatever currency you call it US MMA stars sell mags simple so don't try and fool people by saying it's all about the UK coverage when its all about ££££££.

[MMA Unlimited]

I have the "Collectors" as they called it edition of MMA unlimited and if I am really honest I see very little difference in the amount of UK coverage that FO have. It's a really nice magazine and hopefully it will take off, but if this was a new magazine to focus on the UK MMA scene why put Dan Henderson on the front cover and why cover Hans Molenkamp in an article.

There are plenty of UK fighters that could have gone on the cover and boosted the UK MMA scene, but the bottom line is most people on the fringes of the MMA scene like joe public actually think the sport is called the UFC and that is what they call it. So in $£ or whatever currency you call it US MMA stars sell mags simple so don't try and fool people by saying it's all about the UK coverage when its all about ££££££.

Of course it's about money. It costs money to produce, print and market a product so of course you need to make money to cover those costs. Just like any business. That being said we didn't make a profit with Issue ZERO, and never intended on doing so. We printed 10,000 copies, paid to be at SENI, paid to produce the magazine, offered incredibly cheap advertising rates AND have posted out a few 1000 magazines free of charge.

Why have Dan Henderson on the cover? Eeeerrrrr, well we had the pleasure of Dan coming over for the SENI so it made sense to have Dan on the cover to raise the awareness of the magazine. That along with him being one of the best MMA fighters in the world, it made sense.

Nobody ever questioned why FO dont have any UK fighters on the front cover and MMA Unlimited is not going to promise to have a UK fighter on the cover every month... Anyway just be patient, it's very frustrating for us at the moment not being able to jump straight in. However we'll be out there soon with Issue 1.

Collectors Edition! Yes this was decided as it's our first issue (sample issue) and it's the start of something new so people will hopefully hang on to the magazine.

Lastly,,,if you took the time to read my post properly then you will have seen that we HELD BACK on a lot of things as it would be stupid to reveal all our plans when we expected to be out of the game for a few months while we secure a distribution deal. Issue ZERO was 84 pages.

IF you aren't from Fighters Only then just sit back and chill out, give us a couple of months and you will see the real MMA Unlimited.

oh, Hans Molenkamp is a good friend of mine who is a very interesting character and well respected in the action sports, photography and MMA world. Read the article, you may find it interesting.

I would also like to add that we have no problem with Fighters Only and I'd like to make it clear that MMA Unlimited appreciate what Fighters Only have done over the last couple of years. We felt that there is enough room for more than one magazine and hopefully between the two publications we will see the sport that we love (MMA) gain more coverage than ever before.

[Tensho]

I casually read FO, I like the style of the magazine tbh its a great international magazine, but as many people have pointed out its just lacking in UK news, I think that MMA Unlimited will offer UK coverage alot more so that will be great competition, I wish MMA Unlimited the best of luck as starting a fresh I can only imagine is a scary task.

Tensho.

[boxingbrit]

If you look at boxing Mag's as Aaron pointed out earlier you have Rings and Boxing Monthly that cater to the casual fan who like to watch the XYZ title fights.

Fighters Only is very similar in that it reports on the big name events that the causal fans can see on PPV/ Sky/ DVD.

Boxing fans who get more involved tend to buy Boxing News, this is because it covers those events and individuals they start to see on a week by week basis as they attend local and national shows.

If Fighters Only are going to focus more on the big shows there is certainly a gap for another magazine to cover the grass roots upwards. I thought the Issue 0 MMA Unlimited did a great job of covering all bases. Surely the competition will make both publications raise the bar.

[Ayresy]

I think one of the main things Fighters Only Magazine lacks now is def the amount of articles written about smaller shows, everyone likes to see how the local lads got on if they missed an event themselves, or simply to eye up a future opponent to see how they match up, Fighters Only say they want to get the Uk MMA scene on the map.........start getting uk fighters noticed by publishing the smaller feeder shows in ur magazine again!!!!

[HuseyinBerik]

yeah nothing hardly on most uk shows also abit biased on fighters

[mitch]

Didnt fo have Dan on the front cover too,I mean Hardy;) Good luck with the new mag,plenty of room for another mma publication.Trouble is nobobys buying owt these days:(