something i always found contradictory in Judo

[rms6859]

Im not sure if i have posted this in the right section, so sorry if havent.

When i use to do Judo when i was younger, there was always something i found contradictory about it. They always preached to you that size and weight just did not matter when it came to judo techniques at all.

If they all really believed that, then why does competition judo have weight divisions then? :confused:

[piratebrido]

Anyone who says that at the club I go to usually gets sat on.

[Wez Brown]

the techniques do work on ppl a lot heavier than yourself but i think if comps were open weight there would be a lot of injuries, 15st blokes hip throwing and landing on 10st ppl, its goin do damage. i think the weight catagories are for fighter safty.

[dirty dick]

It is more to do with the efficiency principle rather than moving someone heavier,.

[bigreddog]

Because when 2 people have similar skill levels, strength becomes important

[Rob T]

Judo and jiu-jitsu have techniques which people can use on those who are much bigger and stronger than them.

However, when the bigger and stronger people are also skilled in judo/jiu-jitsu it's a different story altogether. That said, there are still those who can overcome the problem (Terere, Garcia etc in jiu-jitsu, I don't know much about judo players).

[rms6859]

Yes very true points actually, size weight ans strength are unarguably gonna give someone an advantage, if the 2 competitors are equally as skillful.

Not only that, if someone pins you with kesa gatame or yoko shio gatame ect, which is going to be easier to escape from it with, when a guy 3 stones lighter does it on you or a guy 3 stones heavier?.

Not only does weight play an advantage, but height aswell. In general, heavier people are taller aswell.

[markjitsu]

how many times have you seen a 5'5", 60kg jodoka, hip throw a 6'5" 120kg jodoka in randori?

me neither

[MikeD]

Well I've seen Craig Fallon (60kg) take the feet from under a +90kg 4th Dan in a comp. Is that close enough ?

MikeD

[Andy Costello]

When I was in the national squad {years ago} Neil Adams, who was retired and had taken over as coach, could throw anyone of anyone of any weight at 78 kilos, next best was Kerrith Brown who was 71 kg. I was a heavyweight and struggled with world class 65 kg fighters. Size matters in Judo but so does technique. The weight classes were introduced when the then monstrous Dutchman Geesink ruined the Tokyo Olympics {for the Japanese} by storming through the much smaller Japanese favourite. But Geesink had good technique too.

[markjitsu]

Well I've seen Craig Fallon (60kg) take the feet from under a +90kg 4th Dan in a comp. Is that close enough ?

MikeD

nope...........

[jcraig80]

Im not sure if i have posted this in the right section, so sorry if havent.

When i use to do Judo when i was younger, there was always something i found contradictory about it. They always preached to you that size and weight just did not matter when it came to judo techniques at all.

If they all really believed that, then why does competition judo have weight divisions then? :confused:

You dont mention who they were? Nevertheless they are wrong and any good practioner would admit that; of course size is advantage in contest; if players of equal skill fight but one is 100kg and another 60kg for example it is an obvious advantage; however it is possible (not always likely) for someone of smaller stature to beat heavier opponents e.g. Koga at 71kg taking silver in the all Japan open Class championships Suzuki at -100kg winning the +100kg category of the Worlds and Olympic championships. In this situation the player needs superior skill and strategy to succeed.