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Rob T
19-08-2008, 02:37 PM
Do many clubs teach GnP in a similar way to standard grappling techniques? Or are people just left to get on with it themselves during sparring?
ReD_mIst
19-08-2008, 02:39 PM
We have done both. There are specific GnP techniques which we have taught, however, I think that (unlike stirking stood up) there is less to the techniques.
Why is this on a grappling sub forum... striking clearly isn't grappling :)
Allan Shrek
19-08-2008, 02:43 PM
Do many clubs teach GnP in a similar way to standard grappling techniques? Or are people just left to get on with it themselves during sparring?
Paul McVeigh teaches it up at the griphouse in Glasgow. Goes through options from various stages of posture and defences and counters to defences, how to combine it with passing etc. so certianly some people do it.
Rob T
19-08-2008, 02:50 PM
Why is this on a grappling sub forum... striking clearly isn't grappling :)
Because I posted it here. What other option is there? The Pro MMA forum never has technique stuff in it.
Rob T
19-08-2008, 02:52 PM
Paul McVeigh teaches it up at the griphouse in Glasgow. Goes through options from various stages of posture and defences and counters to defences, how to combine it with passing etc. so certianly some people do it.
Sounds good mate. I have been doing a similar thing with a guy from Swansea who is training for pro-MMA. Between us we've worked out which positions work for his body shape to be able to throw hard shots on the ground while not giving away position.
Duchman
19-08-2008, 02:58 PM
there is soooooooooo MUCH TO G EN P
Clearing wrist control, and all its variations
clearign head and arm control, overhooks, underhooks.
mission control, high guard...
Correct posture....
Propper punch angle
If no teach.. its very hard to become realy had good at it
also where in jits you most of the time want to create pressure against hips and ankles.. Where in mma loads of times you do the oppositie to strike..
G and P is a art on its self
The Natural
19-08-2008, 04:07 PM
GNP is definately an art..thou as Red Mist said..alot less to the techniques...but when combined with submissions u have a whole new game..
I have trained at a good club and they teach v little GNP..the guys add in bits and pieces as they see fit and hammer on the heavy bags for practice..they are very successful..
Personally, i think its dependant on your particualr style of fighting...
Leigh
19-08-2008, 04:13 PM
The main thing I teach is how to generate power on the ground, which is different to generating power on the feet. After that, its similar to standing with defence, set ups, combinations etc
The Natural
19-08-2008, 04:15 PM
The main thing I teach is how to generate power on the ground, which is different to generating power on the feet. After that, its similar to standing with defence, set ups, combinations etc
nicely put....
shakus maximus
19-08-2008, 11:01 PM
there is soooooooooo MUCH TO G EN P
Clearing wrist control, and all its variations
clearign head and arm control, overhooks, underhooks.
mission control, high guard...
Correct posture....
Propper punch angle
If no teach.. its very hard to become realy had good at it
also where in jits you most of the time want to create pressure against hips and ankles.. Where in mma loads of times you do the oppositie to strike..
G and P is a art on its self
The main thing I teach is how to generate power on the ground, which is different to generating power on the feet. After that, its similar to standing with defence, set ups, combinations etc
totally agree with both these posts
plenty of technique for the G&P
Rob T
19-08-2008, 11:26 PM
I have been developing my own GnP technique (not claiming it's anything new, just what works for me) from stuff I have noticed many top fighters doing. Hopefully I will get a chance to test it properly next year!
wagon
20-08-2008, 08:32 AM
The Machines GnP covered in his seminars are supposed to be real good. Shakey can elaborate
jay_g
20-08-2008, 12:27 PM
We (kaobon) train GnP alot, using MMA gloves for technique and positioning drills, bigger (boxing) gloves for power, conditioning and defense drills!
It definately helps and obviously is a great way to set up submissions and transitions....
For me the most important thing is positoning though... See so many people (especially at lower level mma) sitting up in side control, leaving the underhook/crossface and trying to GnP then ending up back in there opponents guard. Or getting good posture in gaurd and swinging crazy haymakers, usually missing and getting trapped back in closed guard/submitted...
shakus maximus
20-08-2008, 01:35 PM
The Machines GnP covered in his seminars are supposed to be real good. Shakey can elaborate
huge detail for G&P off Ian. really opened my eyes with regard to how technical it can be.
i took a huge amount away from the session with him and as a coach have implemented a lot of his ideas into our G&P training
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