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Bateman
29-09-2008, 10:44 AM
or Stanazolol Tablat - British Dragon

Has anyone used these for cutting weight , visited a few bodybuilding sites but getting conflicting views...

Any opinions or comments, was thinking of using with Ephedrine, week on, week off... for 6 weeks...

thanks

Bateman
29-09-2008, 01:33 PM
..........anyone ?

Sports-Select.co.uk
29-09-2008, 01:41 PM
British Dragon eh, Roids then?

Sorry mate not something I know much about.

stapesmk1
29-09-2008, 04:07 PM
or Stanazolol Tablat - British Dragon

Has anyone used these for cutting weight , visited a few bodybuilding sites but getting conflicting views...

Any opinions or comments, was thinking of using with Ephedrine, week on, week off... for 6 weeks...

thanks

You mean Stanazolol...as in Winstrol?

Weak Testosterone deriritive, will harden your muscle tissue, prevent muscle breakdown when dieting or cutting and with some strength gains (which have a knock on effect on explosive power if applied with speed).

Not much effect on cardio. Shouldnt retain water or gain fat.

Stapes

Bateman
29-09-2008, 04:14 PM
cool, thanks , yeah as in Winstrol ,

so this should work with ephedrine then ?

I was advised at 1 week on , 1 week off as it surpreses the body's production of natural Testosterone...
Last thing I want is to start crying at the end of 'Beaches' or if someone hurts my feelings in the Gym...

My only concern is taking prescribed drugs such as Diazepan with it, do you know if this is an issue ?

thanks for you help

stapesmk1
29-09-2008, 04:22 PM
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sex_news_sports_funny/steroids_in_mixed_martial_arts

"Usually each subsequent week will run from 300-500mg. Popular items are Testosterone, Equipoise (boldenone), Anavar (oxandrolone) and Halotestin (fluoxymesterone). Trenbolone and Winny (stanozolol) make it in too but it depends on the fighter's response to the possible high blood pressure of trenbolone and joint pain of Winny......

......Winny is loved by some, hated by others. Again, it's personal preference. I don't recommend it to most athletes but I do trust experienced users who like it and leave it to them. The main thing to remember here is we go to a max of 600mg/week total (perhaps higher on the first week but I haven't had a fighter go over 625mg yet. Some other types of athletes I've gone to 750mg the first week). Methenolone isn't preferred because there are just better steroids that give more bang for the buck".

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/professional-collegiate-sports/what-add-equipoise-boldenone-undecylenate-winstrol-stanozolol-cycle-boxer-233662.html

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/indepth/drugs/glossary/dictionary.html


http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DEFDC133CF933A15752C1A96E9482 60&sec=health&spon=&pagewanted=all

"......Among those treated, stanozolol increased the size of the endurance, or Type I, muscle fibers in the abdominal muscle studied. These fibers typically tend to increase after arduous long term exercise. Stanozolol did not affect the size of the Type II fibers, which typically bulk after strength-building exercise."


Theres loads of info out there mate, just google it, or if you're at Uni have a nosey in the journal section.

Stapes

stapesmk1
29-09-2008, 04:26 PM
cool, thanks , yeah as in Winstrol ,

so this should work with ephedrine then ?

I was advised at 1 week on , 1 week off as it surpreses the body's production of natural Testosterone...
Last thing I want is to start crying at the end of 'Beaches' or if someone hurts my feelings in the Gym...

My only concern is taking prescribed drugs such as Diazepan with it, do you know if this is an issue ?

thanks for you help


Steroids have whats called "half lives" which are basically a way of indicating how long the drug is active in the body for. Taking Winstrol for 1 week on 1 week off would be pointless, as the drug would be still working during your "off" week, at too low a dose to be beneficial, but at a high enough dose to supress indogenous (your own natural) testosterone. If you're going to use it, do 6 weeks on, then use some ancilliary drugs as you come off to support your natural testosterone.

Winstrol can make your joints feel sore and expose you to a higher risk of male pattern baldness.

Stapes

Bateman
29-09-2008, 04:46 PM
cheers mate, will check those links... at work at the moment, sort of...

spanky12
29-09-2008, 09:17 PM
If you just want to cut weight try ephedrine, caffine and asprin stack, if you want to gain/maintain strength stack primobolan, deca and anavar.

stapesmk1
29-09-2008, 10:10 PM
If you just want to cut weight try ephedrine, caffine and asprin stack, if you want to gain/maintain strength stack primobolan, deca and anavar.

Depends if you want lean muscle (like a fighter) or just bulk like a bodybuilder/tight t shirt wearing swell head/doorman.

Strength and lean muscle gains: Equipoise & Anavar with either Winstrol, Primobolan or Proviron.

Drop bodyfat: ECA (Ephedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin-30mg/300mg/400mg), Clen, T3.

Drop body fat and protect/harden muscle tissue: Add Winstrol, Primobolon or Proviron.

Personally I think steroids should be avoided and you should save up for a batch of growth hormone. Who needs to be big anyway?


Stapes

Bateman
30-09-2008, 08:21 AM
I just want to strip off fat and keep my muscle size... thinking win and Epedrine is looking like the way forward....

thanks guys

Sports-Select.co.uk
30-09-2008, 09:26 AM
I just want to strip off fat and keep my muscle size... thinking win and Epedrine is looking like the way forward....

thanks guys

Mate fat loss supps etc go at the end of a dieting program to help out as things start to get really tough.

What's your diet and training routine, if they aren't in pretty good shape supps, even illegal ones, will just be pissing into the wind.

Bateman
30-09-2008, 09:40 AM
Mate fat loss supps etc go at the end of a dieting program to help out as things start to get really tough.

What's your diet and training routine, if they aren't in pretty good shape supps, even illegal ones, will just be pissing into the wind.

my training is ok mate ... just that my weight moves between 4 - 5 lbs a week ... tried crash diets and other eating ( i need to up my water intake though) but then i lose muscle size... thats the problem..., thought win an ephedrine would give it a kickstart and keep that 4 - 5 lb move off

stapesmk1
30-09-2008, 10:09 AM
I just want to strip off fat and keep my muscle size... thinking win and Epedrine is looking like the way forward....

thanks guys

Keep your protein at 2g per pound of bodyweight and spend your money on glutamine and BCAAs to take whilst training. They work very very well to protect your muscle tissue. Also anticatabolic compounds such as Leucine, ZMA, pro hormones and test boosters which you can get from any good supplement store.

Why dont you put your time and effort into your diet and training instead? Steroids at best should only be the "finishing touch" or what takes you to the next level once you have acheived your natural peak. If you rely on gear to strip fat or to make your muscles bigger, your body will lose muscle quicker and gain fat quicker once you come off. They should be an after thought, not what you base your program on. They are not only a physical crutch but become a mental one too mate. I promise you.

Too many times I here, "Right Ive got X Y and Z and Im gonna do this that and the other." Hardly hear anyone go on about how theyve got a hard new training program and disciplined diet and they are excited at the potential results.

Find what works for you first diet wise and training wise. There is 100% absolutely no chance whatsoever you have exhausted all your training and diet options or put in the absolutely everything into them. Dont take the easy route mate. Its short lived and makes things a whole lot worse in the long run.

Stapes

stapesmk1
30-09-2008, 10:12 AM
my training is ok mate ... just that my weight moves between 4 - 5 lbs a week ... tried crash diets and other eating ( i need to up my water intake though) but then i lose muscle size... thats the problem..., thought win an ephedrine would give it a kickstart and keep that 4 - 5 lb move off

You will lose muslce on a crash diet. They are a short term fix and put the body under enourmous stress. You need to put the time and effort into a progressive fat loss program and lose 2-3lbs a week maximum whilst making sure you limt fat, eat only enough carbs to keep you going and compensating with a higher amount of protein than normal at the right times and frequency during the day.

Even if you took all the gear in the world, if your diet is shit, you'll do fuck all.

Stapes

Bateman
30-09-2008, 10:48 AM
Sent you a PM mate...

Sports-Select.co.uk
30-09-2008, 11:22 AM
Have a look into precision nutrition as a life style.