View Full Version : Predators Manchester Website
stapesmk1
11-10-2008, 01:56 PM
Just noticed that their website has been updated and revamped and it looks really great!!
Keep the good work up guys!!! With the Sinclairs, Kam, Will, Matt T and the rest of the lads coming through, Predators are a major force to be reckoned with.
http://www.manchester-mma.com/
Extra classes at the end of the week and over the weekend too:
http://www.burypredators.co.uk/
Hope you dont mind me giving you a shout lads!!!
Stapes
robs1980
11-10-2008, 03:53 PM
yeh its looking good.. and guys if any of u get chance to geta private in with gav hes amazing.. he will show u stuff u thought u knew and show u how much u dont know.. and im talking to every1 including the ufc/elite xc fighters who cum on here.
promise ya you'll be amazed
stapesmk1
11-10-2008, 05:25 PM
yeh its looking good.. and guys if any of u get chance to geta private in with gav hes amazing.. he will show u stuff u thought u knew and show u how much u dont know.. and im talking to every1 including the ufc/elite xc fighters who cum on here.
promise ya you'll be amazed
Can he show us that takedown defense into Omaplata that I hear Kam is awesome at??!!
Stapes
robs1980
11-10-2008, 06:03 PM
thats old school stuff.. he will teach u how to defend it in to a knee bar, heel hook.. kimura.. new style kimura.. reversals.. triangles..
depends how u do a single leg.. wether u do it right or the old way.. how u doin it mate
12gauge
11-10-2008, 06:43 PM
Great gym with some real good guys there. Well worth a trip if you havent been.
stapesmk1
11-10-2008, 06:57 PM
thats old school stuff.. he will teach u how to defend it in to a knee bar, heel hook.. kimura.. new style kimura.. reversals.. triangles..
depends how u do a single leg.. wether u do it right or the old way.. how u doin it mate
We've been taught not to shoot for singles, we have to always, always go for doubles then if we lose the rear leg we keep driving and change up. Dave throws things at us if we shoot straight for a single from stand up!!
Can go for a single from cage control or clinch, but not from unattached stand up. The reasoning is, that if the guy sprawls well from a double you still have a chance for the single. If he stuffs your single, theres nowhere to go and you're in danger of all sorts.
Stapes
bigleeroy1
11-10-2008, 07:01 PM
why are you taught not to shoot for singles from free satnding in mma stapes?
i aint forgot your pm mate just getting round to doing it mate.
Chris Wal
11-10-2008, 07:23 PM
he will show u stuff u thought u knew and show u how much u dont know
Couldn't agree more with that, Gav is a quality coach.
stapesmk1
11-10-2008, 07:27 PM
why are you taught not to shoot for singles from free satnding in mma stapes?
i aint forgot your pm mate just getting round to doing it mate.
Just said mate, cause if he stuffs it you're in a bad position. We concentrate on making our doubles as strong as poss and can go for singles if the guy sprawls well. Give him more than one thing to think about.
Basically if you lose the double you still have a strong option. Not so if you lose the single. Not saying you cant recover from missing a single, its just how we are taught and I think its a very valid point.
Stapes
ReD_mIst
11-10-2008, 07:31 PM
Keep the good work up guys!!! With the Sinclairs, Kam, Will, Matt T and the rest of the lads coming through, Predators are a major force to be reckoned with.
I didn't realise Matt was now fighting out of Predators.
bigleeroy1
11-10-2008, 07:33 PM
shit yeah sorry mate i just had a browse over your post and must not have been paying attention. very valid point.
robs1980
11-10-2008, 07:39 PM
We've been taught not to shoot for singles, we have to always, always go for doubles then if we lose the rear leg we keep driving and change up. Dave throws things at us if we shoot straight for a single from stand up!!
Can go for a single from cage control or clinch, but not from unattached stand up. The reasoning is, that if the guy sprawls well from a double you still have a chance for the single. If he stuffs your single, theres nowhere to go and you're in danger of all sorts.
Stapes
no u can go for singles in unattached sits.. but its better if your fighting a southpaw.. i wunt recommend doing a single on an orthadox but u can.. mainly due to the doubles easier to do.. if u lose the rear leg on a double your in danger of sumwer u dont wana be mate.. ill show u sum stuff mate wen ur down now
The Natural
11-10-2008, 07:48 PM
Can he show us that takedown defense into Omaplata that I hear Kam is awesome at??!!
Stapes
Sounds like some slick shit right there!! I 'Think' i can comprehend how that could be done..
Stapes..I read ur post about single legs and only shooting doubles but imho, if something is drilled often enough in the 'right training environment' then anything is possible..again..only my opinion dude.:D
Robs, I cant imagine how the knee bar etc could be done!!!
the count
11-10-2008, 09:11 PM
alot of opinions on here.
widge milward
11-10-2008, 09:20 PM
Interesting opinions on the single leg, i think it depends on the type of fighter your fighting whether they circle alot, are aggressive, counter punch etc...
alot of opinions on here.
The beauty of a forum, the ability to state your opinions freely.
David Butlin
11-10-2008, 10:11 PM
We are gonna carry on with counters/defence to singles next week. Then gonna go over attacks from a single. I have reasons for how I teach and what I say to the students.
D
omoplata against single leg is quite a nice counter. Even I have managed to get it a couple of times and I am rather ponderous.
From a non-striking point of view I have always preferred singles to doubles but then my wrestling kinda sucks
the count
11-10-2008, 11:09 PM
fo sho.........
Duchman
11-10-2008, 11:18 PM
omoplata against single leg is quite a nice counter. Even I have managed to get it a couple of times and I am rather ponderous.
From a non-striking point of view I have always preferred singles to doubles but then my wrestling kinda sucks
In pure wrestling, olympic. THe single is most scored from pee wee wrestling to the olympic games.
In mma
With striking obviously the angles of the strances, submission counters, having a cage etc changes things up.
I wonder what the most scored takedowns in mma are
the way i see it
lefty vs righty = single or angled double
same vs same = double
but than again... Mark kerr shot from a southpaw stance and got loads of people down.
Untill we start to see equel level fighters at everything. It will be easier to see whats most high %
but i am not a black belt.
robs1980
12-10-2008, 05:08 AM
Robs, I cant imagine how the knee bar etc could be done!!![/QUOTE]
no ?its pretty easy....ok... hes got a single leg.. he puts it between his legs.. "to trap it".. (so lets say its the right leg) u square up so both facing forward with right leg still trapped.. u post with u right hand on his back ur left knee jumps behind is left knee.. and u knee bar the left knee.. make sense pretty standard really!
spenna
12-10-2008, 08:53 AM
Site looks great .. going to try and get down very soon
Duchman
12-10-2008, 09:52 AM
Robs, I cant imagine how the knee bar etc could be done!!!
no ?its pretty easy....ok... hes got a single leg.. he puts it between his legs.. "to trap it".. (so lets say its the right leg) u square up so both facing forward with right leg still trapped.. u post with u right hand on his back ur left knee jumps behind is left knee.. and u knee bar the left knee.. make sense pretty standard really![/QUOTE]
Nice. Victors roll.. I was thinking at was pretty commen in training, aswell as flying scissors from a single..
sambo rocks
The Natural
12-10-2008, 11:27 AM
Robs, I cant imagine how the knee bar etc could be done!!!
no ?its pretty easy....ok... hes got a single leg.. he puts it between his legs.. "to trap it".. (so lets say its the right leg) u square up so both facing forward with right leg still trapped.. u post with u right hand on his back ur left knee jumps behind is left knee.. and u knee bar the left knee.. make sense pretty standard really![/QUOTE]
Nice 1 Robs...as i read your post i was reminded af a kneebar from a single that Rumina Sato (sp?) performed off the single..very slick dude.
stapesmk1
12-10-2008, 04:22 PM
I didn't realise Matt was now fighting out of Predators.
No but he told me a while back he was training with them alongside coloseum sessions and SBJ Stockport.
Stapes
ReD_mIst
12-10-2008, 04:32 PM
No but he told me a while back he was training with them alongside coloseum sessions and SBJ Stockport.
Stapes
Yes indeed. Matt's always travelled around a bit, we both have. Gavin is an excellent grappling quote and there are some great fighters at Predators, which gives Matt some great grappling sparring. In fact Kam has one of the best top games I have ever rolled with!
Unfortunately Matt has been told to stop training at SBG Stockport by Karl (we not directly, Karl asked Ian to tell Matt), as Karl feels some of his fighters may end up fighting Matt. Shame, cause Matt's really enjoyed training with those guys
whitestuff
18-10-2008, 09:08 AM
ive been training at predators for a year now and you couldnt find a better set of lads every1 is really down to earth, no egos, every1 helps each other out. Gav is a great trainer would defo recommend any1 to do privates with him u will be amazed by the submissions and position he can teach u. BEST MMA GYM by far!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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