Eddie Bravo details and important stuff [Archive]

SteveLangford

14-10-2008, 03:38 PM

firstly , yes I know this isnt my usual username but ive forgot my fxxking password (I changed it yesterday and cant remember what to?!)

The venue:

Wolverhampton Uni
Walsall Campus
use the entrance on MAGDALENE ROAD WS1 3TA.

Its 5mins from M6 J9

(The gates to the sports centre place are places at the end of this road which is in the middle of a housing estate , its a bit random to be honest)

time and date:

this saturday october 18th
10am- 2pm
please be there for 9.30am so that we can get you checked in and stuff.

Im sorry if you dont recieve your reciept / ticket in time , they have been sent (if you have forwarded your address to me!!)

As long as you tell me your name on arrival you will be fine , ive got a checklist of whos paid so it isnt going to be a problem.

you should all have my mobile number from previous emails and stuff so just get in touch if there is any problems.

Steve

p.s
can a mod please give me my old username password or something? im lost without it :(

steve_langford

14-10-2008, 10:15 PM

luckily I saved my login on the mrs PC!!

how do I change my password again? considering I dont know what it is at the moment and also dont know the email I signed up with?

stapesmk1

14-10-2008, 10:28 PM

Fucking hell Steve.

It is Eddie Bravo on Saturday and not Eddie fucking Izzard right??

:D

Stapes

steve_langford

14-10-2008, 10:32 PM

Fucking hell Steve.

It is Eddie Bravo on Saturday and not Eddie fucking Izzard right??

:D

Stapes

lol yeah , that is one thing I havent managed to mess up.....yet :p

Rob T

19-10-2008, 12:57 PM

Cheers for organising this Steve, really enjoyed.

I'd have prefered more in-depth coverage of less techniques but I guess Eddie is trying to show as much as possible because that's probably what most people want?

Cheers to Jay from Team Kaobon for training with me.

chowbjj

20-10-2008, 01:15 PM

Really Rob, I'd of preffered to had more techniques, I've heard all the in depth stuff before!

Rob T

20-10-2008, 01:46 PM

More?! There were at least 24 that I can remember (although, after reviewing his book I can remember the details of them all) so I think that is more than enough, even in 4 hours.

I think it's much more important to get detailed instruction on the basics, troubleshooting, grip variations etc than to do loads of techniques. There were loads of questions I'd liked to have asked but didn't have time because by the time I next saw him we had moved through 3 or 4 techniques!

Basics are the most important thing to me, not quantity of techs.

TRIBULUS

20-10-2008, 02:06 PM

did Eddie roll with anyone?

Rob T

20-10-2008, 02:26 PM

Nope. I would have loved to have rolled with him but with about 60 people there he'd either have only been able to roll with a small %age, or it would have taken half the seminar time up.

There was no rolling at all, which I don't have too much of a problem with. I can do that in class whereas I will rarely have a chance to learn from him.

I think the hall was booked for an extra hour after the seminar and if I didn't have to drive back to Swansea I would have stuck around and tried to roll with some people.

chowbjj

20-10-2008, 02:35 PM

24? Surely not:

Half Guard (6):
Old School, Electric Chair + Sweep, Boa, Half and Half, Stoner Control, Ankle Lock + Calf Crank

Rubber Guard: (9)
Mission Control + Zombie + New York + Chill Dog (counts as part of the same technique imo), Invisible Collar, Kung Fu Move, Omoplata, Pyramid to Triangle, Carni, Crowbar, Straight Jacket, Special K

That's only 15 moves. I may have missed some, but I feel that's a perfect amount of moves! I got a bit stuck with the last 2, but the rest I have really improved on, especially Kung Fu Move, Pyramid and my half guard game.

Rob T

20-10-2008, 02:40 PM

I may have split them up a bit more than you but there was also D'arce, Butterfly to pyramid etc...

...but while he was showing techs he quickly went over numerous variations. I'd have preferred to have time to go over those. I think more time perfecting a smaller number of techniques is infinitely preferable to doing as many techs as possible.

Some people there looked pretty green, I can't imagine they will remember much of the seminar perfectly.

Duchman

20-10-2008, 03:42 PM

I may have split them up a bit more than you but there was also D'arce, Butterfly to pyramid etc...

...but while he was showing techs he quickly went over numerous variations. I'd have preferred to have time to go over those. I think more time perfecting a smaller number of techniques is infinitely preferable to doing as many techs as possible.
Some people there looked pretty green, I can't imagine they will remember much of the seminar perfectly.

Thats what i look for in every seminar.

To bad i was not there.

Hope see another one on!

PointyShinyBurning

20-10-2008, 03:58 PM

Some people there looked pretty green, I can't imagine they will remember much of the seminar perfectly.I was pretty surprised at the number of people who didn't know how to do the lockdown or mission control. I wouldn't have dropped £30 without doing a bit of 'homework' on the guy's game, personally.

I got a lot out of it, myself, it was really good to see some stuff in motion that I hadn't quite clocked from reading his book. The footwork for the old school and the whip-up to dogfight in particular, 'cause I've been doing them pretty much wrong up until now.

steve_langford

21-10-2008, 10:21 AM

I agree with Rob T on this one....

Id of preferred less moves with more in depth coverage but hey , it was Eddies seminar and he was the 'boss' :)

Its a shame people didnt take advantage of the hall being booked for an extra hour.

Rob T

21-10-2008, 10:31 AM

Its a shame people didnt take advantage of the hall being booked for an extra hour.

Would have loved to mate but had to get my missus from work at 5.30!

steve_langford

21-10-2008, 10:39 AM

Would have loved to mate but had to get my missus from work at 5.30!

bet that was a close call?!

Rob T

21-10-2008, 10:44 AM

Wasn't too bad to be honest, no traffic really. Steady 80 all the way back and we were fine.

The way up was better, only took me 2hrs 15 and that was with a 20min stop! haha. Wouldn't have managed that with my old car!!

Scott

21-10-2008, 10:52 AM

Its a shame people didnt take advantage of the hall being booked for an extra hour.

I agree Steve, but it was a 2 hour drive up, a tiring 4 hour seminar, and a 2 hour drive home, I just couldn't be arsed lol!

Would have liked to roll with Eddie though :o

Inchbyinch

21-10-2008, 10:54 AM

jay_g

21-10-2008, 01:14 PM

Good seminar, but totally agree with less techniques and more details, and would have liked to ask him a few questions but was going too fast!
Still dont get me wrong iv been to loads of seminars and was easy in my top three....

Nice to meet and train with Rob T from GB Swansea, have to try and have a roll with you some time.

Rob T

21-10-2008, 01:29 PM

Yes mate, hopefully another time!

chowbjj

21-10-2008, 03:21 PM

Fair enough...I guess it's cause some of the stuff he went through I already knew, but I did improve everything a hell of a lot...

Next time I'd rather he focus on Spider Web! How often are you planning these seminars Steve? I say once every 3 months :D

Rob T

21-10-2008, 03:23 PM

Spider web would be awesome, I love it.

david5

21-10-2008, 03:58 PM

was this filmed?

Rob T

21-10-2008, 03:59 PM

Yeah, cagefilm.com were there.

david5

21-10-2008, 04:08 PM

sweeeeeeet

Scott

21-10-2008, 04:31 PM

Chowbjj, these seminars have only really been possible due to Eddie already being in the country due to UFC commitments. The next UFC over here is in Dublin so I expect some on the ball Irish club will take advantage.

Also is kinda depends on where the UFC is taking place as to where the seminar is located. Although, the June one was in Walsall and that nights UFC was in London.

Steve, make sure you get in early for his next trip over!

Also, big thanks to Steve for sorting out the seminar after Lacky cancelled on us, as well as lowering the price(Lacky originally wanted £65 in June!), cheers mate.

chowbjj

21-10-2008, 05:15 PM

£65?! Thats monetary rape that is

stapesmk1

21-10-2008, 05:19 PM

Lousy bastard!!!

Stapes

roadrage

21-10-2008, 05:22 PM

Well done steve hope all went well. I wouldn't have cancelled if i could have helped it. Cheers scott but in my defense i dropped the price to £40 after discovering he would be in the country after all, When i originally priced up that was too fly him over and book him a hotel. And eddie is black and white when it comes to the old green dollar bill.

steve_langford

21-10-2008, 10:17 PM

Ive already got him booked for the next time hes in england :)

Dont pick on lacky (roadrage) hes a cool guy.

roadrage

22-10-2008, 09:42 AM

Ive already got him booked for the next time hes in england :)

Dont pick on lacky (roadrage) hes a cool guy.

Cheers steve i feel loved now :D

Tommo

22-10-2008, 10:12 AM

steve_langford

22-10-2008, 10:52 AM

Wot was he like Steve/those who went....was he really that revolutionary?? Or just like a normal good practitioner?

I dont expect anyone to say 'he was shit' but just curious if he actually is that good.....

I dont know how everyone else felt about him but seriously I was amazed at how good he actually is!

His Half guard lockdown stuff has already started to change my game in the gym!

Hs flexability is like something ive never seen (apart from BJ Penn UFC 58) and he has a great way of explaining things IMO , I especially liked his explanation of the path of the rubber guard.

To totally understand what hes about you need to train with him , he is really good.

Id like to hear other peoples opinions.......

Rob T

22-10-2008, 11:55 AM

I don't think I can really judge him from one seminar. He definitely seemed like a nice guy though and took the time to speak to people, take photos, sign books etc.

His jiu-jitsu skills must be good but without rolling with him it's impossible to compare him to the other top guys I've rolled with. Not that I think it's really the done thing to compare people's jj skills anyway.

Obviously he has a good system of jj and I use a lot of stuff that I've learnt from his books/videos and have now improved my knowledge from the seminar. I don't think it's as far removed from standard bjj as he makes out, but that's just his marketing and it's worked. If he just said "Oh, the stuff I do is just bjj with some small amendments" he wouldn't be selling books, videos and seminars so well.

His flexibility is definitely crazy, he could move his legs into any position without any difficultly. That said, the only thing he showed in the seminar which I couldn't do without a fair effort was the Special K armbar. I don't think you need as much flexibility for rubber guard as some people think, the only other thing I've found hard is the double bagger (lol).

I would definitely want to go to another seminar... Steve, make sure you let me know!!

Inchbyinch

22-10-2008, 12:00 PM

His flexibility is definitely crazy, he could move his legs into any position without any difficultly. I don't think you need as much flexibility for rubber guard as some people think, the only other thing I've found hard is the double bagger (lol).

When I was working on the pump stuff: the clinch power he generates with his crackhead control is insane. To easily get you rlegs to that position and then be doing constant leg curls is awesome.

Rob T

22-10-2008, 12:06 PM

Yeah, I can get my legs into position but do find it hard to then keep the pressure on because it's pretty much the limit of my flexibility.

PointyShinyBurning

22-10-2008, 12:40 PM

That said, the only thing he showed in the seminar which I couldn't do without a fair effort was the Special K armbar.Ha, I noticed a few people struggling with that one. To be honest, though, you don't need scary ninja-flexibility for anything he showed. I can only just about put my foot behind my head (with lots of bending at the waste and some swearing) and I can play everything I've seen from him without discomfort.

I was pretty impressed with his teaching, every detail was purposefully thought out. I think that people without any 'homework' on his system might have found it a little fast, at times.

Scott

22-10-2008, 06:18 PM

As people said, it isn't just flexibility, its having the endurance and dexterity to put your legs in those positions quickly with little effort.

He can slap mission control on in half a second, where most of us will take 3 or 4 seconds to get it on properly.

Tommo

24-10-2008, 01:40 PM

Cheers for the replies....I always thought he cant be that far removed from BJJ but with some just simple adjustments etc

Sounds like he knows his shit & is a good teacher tho, would love to come the next one if im in UK

Waterboy

24-10-2008, 08:39 PM

Seminar was top-notch (thanks again for having us Steve).

Eddie said two things in his opening speech about half guard which were worth the entry fee to me already.

Regarding his teaching - he has a rather long winded, detailed style of teaching (which I like), and he can sometimes spread one move over multiple lessons to hit every point of the technique. This doesn't lend itself to a seminar very well, but I was suprised how much stuff he managed to fit in, and I got loads from it.

lol @ him calling everyone 'retards' for lying about how good they were at his stuff! :D

Regarding his own skill level - he was good enough to roll with me in LA a couple of years back and whilst I've only rolled with a few blackbelts, he was probably the hardest guy to do anything to that I've rolled with.

Like competing against an alien in a sport that the alien just invented. He has freaky clinch strength in his arms and legs - his wizzers and overhooks actually hurt - and he hits you with crazy moves you've never seen at a breakneck pace.

Everyone was spreading the word afterwards about how good the seminar was - I reckon you could fill that whole hall next time! Good work Steve.

Rob T

25-10-2008, 01:06 AM

I can't believe people there couldn't do the lockdown at all. Mad. We all didn't know it at one point but is an Eddie Bravo seminar the best place to do the lockdown for the first time ever?

steve_langford

25-10-2008, 06:30 PM

cheers for the feedback guys.

yeah , how funny was it when Eddie called us 'retards' lmao!

Waterboy

25-10-2008, 06:44 PM

I can't believe people there couldn't do the lockdown at all. Mad. We all didn't know it at one point but is an Eddie Bravo seminar the best place to do the lockdown for the first time ever?

Yeah, my thoughts as well. Each to their own, but personally I wouldn't go to a Ramon Dekker's seminar if I couldn't hold a clinch or throw a roundhouse.

Inchbyinch

25-10-2008, 07:11 PM

My favourite line: "I'm showing this quickly but most of you'll probably fuck it up anyway..."

stapesmk1

25-10-2008, 07:30 PM

[QUOTE=Waterboy;255520]

Regarding his own skill level - he was good enough to roll with me in LA a couple of years back and whilst I've only rolled with a few blackbelts, he was probably the hardest guy to do anything to that I've rolled with.

Hope Im good enough to roll with you soon big guns!!! Lol. ;)

Some well made points there.

Stapes