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Kaan Sencer
18-10-2008, 12:40 AM
who's going?

karstenbigk
18-10-2008, 01:34 AM
wer n wen??

Stalkachu
18-10-2008, 12:44 PM
Nottingham. Nov 15th.

Take care,

Stalks

Kaan Sencer
19-10-2008, 02:12 AM
amatuer though

Big Bri
19-10-2008, 09:02 AM
I had a chat with the chaps and we`re going to give this one a a miss.
It`s a bit to far to be fair.

Kaan Sencer
22-10-2008, 12:12 AM
yeah fair enough, i couldnt make it to the last one so i definetly have t come to this to catch up, anyone else coming?

Rob Hannis
16-11-2008, 04:34 PM
Did many people go to this? My mate cornering one of his students told me that people were getting knocked out, yet I thought it was a no headshots event?

Apparently his student was punched in the throat, then then face then knocked out with a knee to the face! He saw at least another 3 ko's during the day.

I'd assume the ko's would be great for the fans, but not for the competitors trying ease themselves into mma? How come there were so many ko's in a competition with no head shots?

Kaan Sencer
16-11-2008, 04:48 PM
i didnt even go, mma league were supposed to get back to me about sorting me out with a lift but it never happened, ahwell

jimmy_bullard
16-11-2008, 07:04 PM
I was there and I didn't see anyone get knocked out but I did c some people who should have been disqualified for repeated "accidental" punches to the face

Luke
16-11-2008, 07:26 PM
Did many people go to this? My mate cornering one of his students told me that people were getting knocked out, yet I thought it was a no headshots event?

Apparently his student was punched in the throat, then then face then knocked out with a knee to the face! He saw at least another 3 ko's during the day.

I'd assume the ko's would be great for the fans, but not for the competitors trying ease themselves into mma? How come there were so many ko's in a competition with no head shots?

Sometimes you get the occasional headshot get through, that's alright. In my last fight I got a full on upkick to the face (it happens). It's all good though.

I'm surprised some people on here say it's too far. The Combat Sports one is 4 hours each way for us (although that's the nearest thing we got).

If I'd have known this event in Nottm was on I'd have come up, especially what with it being in Nottingham!!How did it go anyway?

crw
16-11-2008, 09:54 PM
I was there and competed. I saw nobody get knocked out. There were some stray shots, none i saw were intentional. I took a shot to the nose but it was as a shot in, it happens. Overall a good day.

Luke
16-11-2008, 10:23 PM
Do you get 3 fights on the day? I noticed some people fought 3 times in previous one?

simpy
17-11-2008, 10:48 AM
Did many people go to this? My mate cornering one of his students told me that people were getting knocked out, yet I thought it was a no headshots event?

Apparently his student was punched in the throat, then then face then knocked out with a knee to the face! He saw at least another 3 ko's during the day.

I'd assume the ko's would be great for the fans, but not for the competitors trying ease themselves into mma? How come there were so many ko's in a competition with no head shots?

I entered the event and was the first bout of the day. I am afraid i am guilty of one of the ko's. The only answer to how it happened was that instinct took over, i caught a kick and the next thing i new is my right hand was flying towards my opponents jaw. When you drill something so often it is hard to drift away from your training and stick to body shots. Right away i felt so bad but fare play to the guy after a few minutes recovering he decided he wanted to carry on with the round which still had about a min left. I had already landed some very hard body shots and kicks that i could see had hurt and he was flinching at every single one so that shows alot of heart to carry on.
I think an event like this its always going to happen. There was a head shot landed in 50% of the bouts and i think so long as people arnt throwing them with the intention to cheat it should be understoon. Great event but needs a little work on the organization.

simpy
17-11-2008, 02:07 PM
Do you get 3 fights on the day? I noticed some people fought 3 times in previous one?
I only had 2 fights but i believe a couple of people had 3. The day wasnt very well organized, people didnt seem to no what they were ment to be doing and when and also some people went home after there first fight leaving empty slots that needed to be filled.

Luke
17-11-2008, 06:51 PM
I only had 2 fights but i believe a couple of people had 3. The day wasnt very well organized, people didnt seem to no what they were ment to be doing and when and also some people went home after there first fight leaving empty slots that needed to be filled.

Ah I guess it's probably a new thing with a few teething problems. Hopefully they should sort them, but should keep an eye on the headshots. 50% of fights ain't very good!

Combat Sports is very good, been established a long time. They call out fighters to warm up and then call them out again before the fights. Everyone has 1 fight first, then after the 1st fights they go to the 2nd lot. That way people stay longer, rather than go home straight away. Don't see the point of that though! You come a long way, you may as well stay to enjoy the event.

Rob Hannis
18-11-2008, 09:05 AM
I think an event like this its always going to happen. There was a head shot landed in 50% of the bouts and i think so long as people arnt throwing them with the intention to cheat it should be understoon. Great event but needs a little work on the organization.

If the rules are clear it won't happen in anywhere near 50% of the fights, if you hit someone in the face then you should be DQ'd like any other rule infringement. Repeated infringements from a team and the whole team goes home. I'm sure that'd stop it. At the ksbo events they were body shots only and I can only remember one accidental shot to the face over several events.

simpy
18-11-2008, 09:36 AM
I dont think every shot to the face should be a DQ really and it isnt anythig to do with the rules being clear , I didnt see anyone who was striking with the intent to ko and everyone would back of right away when they relized what the had done it was simply training. We drill these techniques over and over so you dont even have to think and just react on training an instinct anyone with any game at all is going to react like this, i do however think it needs to be judged on the individual. In my bout as i said i hit my opponent with a right hand that left him on his back for a couple of minutes. It was in no way with the intention to break the rules but i believe i should have been DQ. To allow a fighter to continue to fight after his has been knocked out was crazy and very dangerous. I would have gracefully took my dq.

Rob Hannis
18-11-2008, 09:48 AM
I dont think every shot to the face should be a DQ really and it isnt anythig to do with the rules being clear , I didnt see anyone who was striking with the intent to ko and everyone would back of right away when they relized what the had done it was simply training. We drill these techniques over and over so you dont even have to think and just react on training an instinct anyone with any game at all is going to react like this, i do however think it needs to be judged on the individual. In my bout as i said i hit my opponent with a right hand that left him on his back for a couple of minutes. It was in no way with the intention to break the rules but i believe i should have been DQ. To allow a fighter to continue to fight after his has been knocked out was crazy and very dangerous. I would have gracefully took my dq.

Agree in part and I'm sure people weren't doing it intentionally but still feel that a stronger rule set would help, if you are training for that comp then you should be doing specific body only striking for that competition for a number of weeks out from it. Part of re programming the mind for the comp, and if you know from the outset of your training for the comp you risk a DQ I'm sure it'll help focus on not hitting the head.

Very much in argeement on not allowing the fighter to continue after a knockout/knockdown. Pro fighters aren't meant to fight for a number of weeks after a KO (as per the rules of the imaginary governing body), so why is someone allowed to get back up and carry on after a few moments recovery?

simpy
18-11-2008, 10:02 AM
Agree in part and I'm sure people weren't doing it intentionally but still feel that a stronger rule set would help, if you are training for that comp then you should be doing specific body only striking for that competition for a number of weeks out from it. Part of re programming the mind for the comp, and if you know from the outset of your training for the comp you risk a DQ I'm sure it'll help focus on not hitting the head.

Very much in argeement on not allowing the fighter to continue after a knockout/knockdown. Pro fighters aren't meant to fight for a number of weeks after a KO (as per the rules of the imaginary governing body), so why is someone allowed to get back up and carry on after a few moments recovery?

Its hard to override your hours of training for one tournament. IN my case i have a full contact thai fight coming up so my training for that is what really took over. Your right tho something needs to be done to protect the fighters who are trying to gain experience. They were gving warnings for the strikes and i belive you only got one warning but this shouls only apply for light shots no Knock outs or knock downs.
The guy seemed ok but still all it takes is for him to get koed again ad thats when you start getting serious injury's. I am not in it just to rack up wins only experience and getting a dq would not have changed the experience gained. Far play to the guy for showing the heart to carry on cos even before the Ko i was giving his body a bit of a beating. Tough guy but bad ref decision to allow it to carry on

Badnews
18-11-2008, 01:59 PM
Read an event review at http://www.mmahitpit.com/diaries/alldiaries/fighterdiaries/davebownds

Comments/crticisms/points of argument and agreement all welcome! :D

simpy
18-11-2008, 03:39 PM
Read an event review at http://www.mmahitpit.com/diaries/alldiaries/fighterdiaries/davebownds

Comments/crticisms/points of argument and agreement all welcome! :D

Nice review mate. As for your comment about my ko not being a forgivable one i agree really. To be honist i was more botherd about it than my opponent was he just said "these things happen".

I have to disagree a little on the organization i felt it was a bit of a mess. People were being called out for there fights with no warning to warm up and nothing like the time shown of the fight sheet. Had guys at the very end of the day still waiting to see if they were going to get a second fight and you couldnt understand a thing that was coming over the cheap PA. Things are never going to run 100% but i do feel they could have done better. I am sure in time they will improve.

Got a nice photo of me on there about to get taken down and rapped on the ground (not my strongest point yet but getting better thanks to events like this) by one of your guys. (Bottom right pic )Do you happen to have anymore shots for this fight. Even tho i lost i would love to have some pics of my first ever mma tournament and stupid me didnt take a camera

Badnews
18-11-2008, 08:50 PM
Nice review mate. As for your comment about my ko not being a forgivable one i agree really. To be honist i was more botherd about it than my opponent was he just said "these things happen".

I have to disagree a little on the organization i felt it was a bit of a mess. People were being called out for there fights with no warning to warm up and nothing like the time shown of the fight sheet. Had guys at the very end of the day still waiting to see if they were going to get a second fight and you couldnt understand a thing that was coming over the cheap PA. Things are never going to run 100% but i do feel they could have done better. I am sure in time they will improve.

Got a nice photo of me on there about to get taken down and rapped on the ground (not my strongest point yet but getting better thanks to events like this) by one of your guys. (Bottom right pic )Do you happen to have anymore shots for this fight. Even tho i lost i would love to have some pics of my first ever mma tournament and stupid me didnt take a camera

Got a few more pics, PM me your email address and I'll forward any i've got. I do remember that you seemed pretty mortified by the headshot - when I said about 'not being forgivable' I meant by the guy you twatted, not anyone else! :D
I see what you mean about the organisation, but in an event with that many people I think it was a success. Someone always loses out unfortunately, but thats generally the fault of the no shows and pull outs, not the organisers.

See you at the next one maybe?

simpy
18-11-2008, 11:18 PM
I really did feel bad about it. Funny looking back on it but i felt sorry for the guy at the time. I will definitely be at the 3rd leg looking forward to it. Will pm you my email... thanks mate

nrallen
20-11-2008, 10:53 PM
i think it's happening a lot when people are trying to set up body kicks and low kicks, just throwing a couple punches up high as a distraction and accidentally connecting. it's not often punches thrown to the face with real intent.

daniel darby
26-11-2008, 04:08 PM
Did many people go to this? My mate cornering one of his students told me that people were getting knocked out, yet I thought it was a no headshots event?

Apparently his student was punched in the throat, then then face then knocked out with a knee to the face! He saw at least another 3 ko's during the day.

I'd assume the ko's would be great for the fans, but not for the competitors trying ease themselves into mma? How come there were so many ko's in a competition with no head shots?

i woz fighting at cage carnage in carlisle semi pro no head shots on the ground i was punched in the throat shorts pulled i dnt advise lads to go to shitty events theres so much rubbish out there