Judo advice

[Annitsford]

Done Judo a little while and have a buring question about comps, well when training I seem to have advatage on ground with guys I train with but dont while throwing, so what I have a tendancy to do is wait and counter, dont have the confidence to give my back while throwing, what the problem is I have been told I should attack more or I would get DQed, is this the truth or is my training buddies just want to take the upper hand.

[Jogs D]

If it helps I had the same problems when I started Judo as well. Also the fact that I'm quite tall made it difficult for me to lower my hips and go for hip throws etc....

Also I found I instinctively kept shooting doubles/singles against the Judo guys which they didn't like. In the end what worked for me was to keep attacking but going for sweeps/leg trips. So I developed this aspect to Judo to work for me - that is until I broke my leg! :(

As yes you do get penalized for stalling - in Judo they want you to keep attacking - I suspect that's to make it spectator friendly although I think it's good in fighting to have an aggressive / attacking approach anyways....

[jonbroster]

the fact that I'm quite tall made it difficult for me to lower my hips and go for hip throws etc....

The two classic techniques for tall players are tai otoshi (Body drop) and uchi mata (inner reap). I've had these from tall guys and felt like they were going to rip my leg off.


Also I found I instinctively kept shooting doubles/singles against the Judo guys which they didn't like. In the end what worked for me was to keep attacking but going for sweeps/leg trips.

The double leg is allowed in judo, it is called morote gari, but you have to do it from your feet (not your knees) and lift as you do it, not just a drag down. Obviously, this is tricky with a gi on. I once caught a guy for ippon with this though. I caught him as he turned back out of a throw which I had blocked.


As yes you do get penalized for stalling - in Judo they want you to keep attacking - I suspect that's to make it spectator friendly

They always have this idea that if they keep tinkering with the rules to make it more exciting, then they will get on TV (more than 10 minutes every 4 years) and make big money. :rolleyes:

Jon

[The Natural]

Double legs all the way..Rhadi ferguson made an international career out of them in judo..

Maybe thats an exaggeration :), but he utilized the double leg with phenominal success in comps with unbelievable explosiveness..

[Wiegieboard]

Rhadi is a frickin' beast! I wish that I could do the things that he can do!

[TTDKing]

Double legs all the way..Rhadi ferguson made an international career out of them in judo..

Maybe thats an exaggeration :), but he utilized the double leg with phenominal success in comps with unbelievable explosiveness..

Yeah double legs work well. A guy i know used to win all his comps with a hybrid double leg/rugby tackle. Worked nearly all the time. Pissed alot of people off though.

[The Natural]

sum judo guys frown upon it in my experiences of rolling..

but if it works, use it!!

[jcraig80]

Done Judo a little while and have a buring question about comps, well when training I seem to have advatage on ground with guys I train with but dont while throwing, so what I have a tendancy to do is wait and counter, dont have the confidence to give my back while throwing, what the problem is I have been told I should attack more or I would get DQed, is this the truth or is my training buddies just want to take the upper hand.

This is true that in tournaments you will be penlalised; also the double leg is best served for tournaments once you know it works; although throwing it in once a randori is not to bad; just shunned upon if you keep going for it without any preparation constantly.

The reason for these 'written/unwritten' rules are that when you practice judo randori you are engaging to improve various elements such as posture, timing, rythym etc excessive stalling and repeated attempts at the double leg; would result in a non-beneficial practice.

It would be like constantly clinching and holding in boxing sparring to prevent any rythum to develop; a good strategy maybe in a tournament but not in training; I am not sure if there is a bjj equivalent perhaps stalling/not progressing a position to prevent the opponent reversing or attempting something; again maybe good for contest but against the spirit of training.

[wagon]

This is true that in tournaments you will be penlalised; also the double leg is best served for tournaments once you know it works; although throwing it in once a randori is not to bad; just shunned upon if you keep going for it without any preparation constantly.

The reason for these 'written/unwritten' rules are that when you practice judo randori you are engaging to improve various elements such as posture, timing, rythym etc excessive stalling and repeated attempts at the double leg; would result in a non-beneficial practice.

It would be like constantly clinching and holding in boxing sparring to prevent any rythum to develop; a good strategy maybe in a tournament but not in training; I am not sure if there is a bjj equivalent perhaps stalling/not progressing a position to prevent the opponent reversing or attempting something; again maybe good for contest but against the spirit of training.


I suppose locking someone up in guard or from side mount and just staying there clamped on uis similar!!? (or running away)