Running Trainers?

[SDR]

Any particular brands/makes/models anyone would recommend from a UK shop?

Thanks :)

[Daddy D]

I wear MIZUNO wave riders, but I went into a running shop on a marathon open day and got fitted up by a specialist, as I was having problems with my Illiotibal band, which runs down the outside of your legs.

[Badnews]

Asics, absolutely every single time.

Before I did MMA I did long distance running and tried various brands. For quality, longevity and comfort Asics are by far the best I came across.
Get last seasons styles here a lot cheaper -

http://www.sportsshoes.com/search/index.php?search=yes&advanced_search=yes&searchInput=asics+-court+-lady&manufacturer_id=10&sort=newest&size=0

2130s and Kayanos are both very good.

I'm currently using the 1120s, but mainly cos I'm not racking up as many miles these days.

[Smiler]

There's a few different trains of thought here.

For example, I run best in Nike Free's, never had any problems, despite having flat feet and a moderate left over pronation, and a heavy right over pronation.

Nike Free's move with your feet, with no cushioning or control. I've had no problems whatever with them.

When I was doing the marathon training I wore cushioning shoes until I had alot of problems. I then got a set of shoes for over-pronation, and ended up seeing a podiatrist and getting inserts also, all to control my feet and therefore my body.

But I am also helped by having very strong feet and ankles, and run correctly with a mid-foot fall. Running trainers force you to land heel first and that is not the anatomically correct footfall position in some latest research, throwing your body out by having too much cushioning and depth on the heel. For these reasons its probably best when I run in the Nike Free's, as I run how my body is supposed to be. I run up to 10miles x-country at the moment, and have had no problems whatsoever.

My suggestion though would be to go to a really good running shop like Sweatshop, where they assess your running style and help 'fit' you with a pair. Then you see how you get on...

There are market leader trainers, but if they aren't right for your body, no point in getting them.

Smiler

[Waterboy]

Asics ftw SDR - you can get them dirt cheap in the JJB on Edge Lane.

If anyone else is having trouble with their IT band, get a foam roller on it. It's screw-your-face-up painful, but really loosens it off and eliminates a lot of knee pain and general tension when you'r running.

[Abstroose]

I got a pair of Asics for about £50 off ebay last year. Ugly as anything but they stop me from getting shin splints.

[stapes360]

Running trainers force you to land heel first and that is not the anatomically correct footfall position in some latest research, Smiler

Hello Smiler, Can you point me in the direction of that research please mate? Cheers.

As for the origional question, i go with Kayano's.

[NeilD]

isnt heel-toe advised by some forces trainers when your carrying weight?

[Alex Gold]

It's not latest research IMO, I thought that was decided in the 80s...

Anyway heel hit, apart from not being a natural way of running, creates massive shock forces through the foot and lower leg as well as braking forces that actually make you run slower.

If you want in-depth info check out this book

http://tinyurl.com/6tucjg

or search google for 'Michael Yessis Running', maybe he has some articles outlining the research.

Hope that helps,
Alex.

[Alex Gold]

isnt heel-toe advised by some forces trainers when your carrying weight?

Carrying weight makes things massively different, but I wouldn't imagine they would recommend a pure heel strike. Possibly a rear of midfoot strike would make sense....you have to try and balance energy economy with safety which is harder when you have added weight to consider.

[stapes360]

It's not latest research IMO, I thought that was decided in the 80s...

Anyway heel hit, apart from not being a natural way of running, creates massive shock forces through the foot and lower leg as well as braking forces that actually make you run slower.

If you want in-depth info check out this book

http://tinyurl.com/6tucjg

or search google for 'Michael Yessis Running', maybe he has some articles outlining the research.

Hope that helps,
Alex.

Lol, i know when it was decided, i was asking smiler if he had access to NEW research. Being in the millitary we have ALOT of injuries that occur from running/yomping so i am constantly doing Gait assesments, so were always open to any new research. "Exlosive running" is a good book.

[stapes360]

isnt heel-toe advised by some forces trainers when your carrying weight?

By forces trainers do you mean Armed forces?

[Travis Bickle]

There's a few different trains of thought here.

For example, I run best in Nike Free's, never had any problems, despite having flat feet and a moderate left over pronation, and a heavy right over pronation.

Nike Free's move with your feet, with no cushioning or control. I've had no problems whatever with them.

When I was doing the marathon training I wore cushioning shoes until I had alot of problems. I then got a set of shoes for over-pronation, and ended up seeing a podiatrist and getting inserts also, all to control my feet and therefore my body.

But I am also helped by having very strong feet and ankles, and run correctly with a mid-foot fall. Running trainers force you to land heel first and that is not the anatomically correct footfall position in some latest research, throwing your body out by having too much cushioning and depth on the heel. For these reasons its probably best when I run in the Nike Free's, as I run how my body is supposed to be. I run up to 10miles x-country at the moment, and have had no problems whatsoever.

My suggestion though would be to go to a really good running shop like Sweatshop, where they assess your running style and help 'fit' you with a pair. Then you see how you get on...

There are market leader trainers, but if they aren't right for your body, no point in getting them.

Smiler

thats really interesting I am flat footed and have more or less given up on running, I have some heavily cushioned saucony running shoes that were fitted in a specialist running shop, the guy there videoed me running on a treadmill and was shocked at how much my feet were rolling inwards I think he was suprised that I could run at all.

any way since I am getting so fat I might go out for a run soon and see how that goes.

[Smiler]

I'll have to find it all again now lol!

I read so much...but then after reading discard and move to the next...

I'll have a hunt - and also get the army rehab guys to have a hunt for me too...just got back from our lunchtime grappling session at the boxing club, wish I'd seen this before I went!

Smiler

[Lou]

I have tried lots of different trainers now,I had some expensive ones that were fitted for me at a running shop when I was doing some fell running, but when I got out in them they felt dreadful. I now run in Nike air rifts- they don't have much padding and have the funny ninjer style split toe but they are loads better than others I have tried. I over pronate and had some special insoles but these didn't help all that much either.

Interesting reading though. I need to get back out running as I am F-A-T after Christmas!!!!

[DanCrase]

Running trainers are overrated; I just wear a pair of Converse allstars, like Rocky does in his films.

Never did him any harm.

[Lou]

Hippy!!!! :D

[DetoxGuru.com]

Asics Gel Work Best For Me .

[DanCrase]

Ofcourse, I get bad shin splints and, in winter, I get huge searing pains through my knees...but I'm sure that's just cooincidence...

[Smiler]

Hi,

I asked one of the army rehab guys at training last night.

We started laughing, as Big Dave is a walking medical encyclopedia! Yep, he says, its midfoot fall that is more important that heel striking for two reasons.

1. Its a more efficient running style, heel striking acts as a braking system.
2. Injuries - heel striking can help to induce plantar fascitis.

He says the latest research, or at least advice on this has been presented by the UK Athletics governing body...

Hope this helps!

Smiler