How Do You Go About Holding Your Own Event???

[Dziurzynski]

Considering holding an event what type off licence do u need?? all info will be helpfull many thanks

[Ben_Hutch]

This type?


http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/3207/offlicencebd7.jpg

[Plastikman]

Considering holding an event what type off licence do u need?? all info will be helpfull many thanks

You need to apply to your local MMA governing body. The number will be in the yellow pages.

[Sledge]

After you have been discharged from Broadmor take all your money and flush it down a drain

That should have the same effect.

[r-v]

This type?


http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/3207/offlicencebd7.jpg

i can honestly say i have 1 :)

[iandean]

Go to the Casino and put all your money on red or black

Upside if you win, you're gonna have a lot of money to spend on Champagne, cocaine and fast women. And if you lose, you can rest safe in the knowledge that the amount you lost at the roulette table would be far less than if you did an MMA show.

[Simon James]

Go to the Casino and put all your money on red or black

Upside if you win, you're gonna have a lot of money to spend on Champagne, cocaine and fast women. And if you lose, you can rest safe in the knowledge that the amount you lost at the roulette table would be far less than if you did an MMA show.

i couldnt have put it better myself:D

[payner]

Expect loads of earache & be prepared to spend loads of money, suffer sleepless nights & be admitted to your local hospital Cardiac unit!

[Nak-Muay]

I have always presumed you either need to have relative experience in event planning or have worked as e.g. a match maker alongside a promoter to realistically think about putting on a show.

It may seem easy... Venue + Ring + Fighters... But I know from speaking with promoters so much can and does go wrong on the build up to a show, you really need to be confident of how to go about it and if you are asking how to on a forum maybe you should look at helping a promotion first?

[marc goddard]

Manage and match 24 fighters, their team and there managers, book venue, tickets, posters, advertisement. get a Ring / cage, book a ref, book judges, hire an MC , get a timekeeper......sort your security, corner runners, organise mats for the day for warm ups, get trophies / belts.

Organise and book hotels, organise and attend / run a day before weigh in venue, sort the fighters food and drink. make sure doc is there for pre fight medicals, get your film crew ready........ oh and the photographer. organise suitable press / magazine coverage and dont forget to organise a merchandise seller for the event.

get there early on the day of the event, infact just fucken sleep there the night before its far easier. make sure everything is set up to the required standard, dont forget.....scorecards, timer and horn / bell, make sure you have got the glove supplier sorted too, get your raffle tickets in for what ever you have not forgot to organise for the charity / give away in the intervals, make sure all the fighters have handed in there music cause you know what they are like.....make sure all the relevant people have the correct wrist bands / passes etc, over see the layout of the venue and seating, make sure the vip tables are laid out correctly.....along with organising there food and drink.

make sure that you have not forget to organise ring girls, oh and there round cards, what ever you do you will have to have the MC's call cards with all the fighters info ready, shit almost forgot...of course you will need a printed out fight card for the nights entertainment......and that all before your first punter has even walked in the door.

Still standing ? Congratulations, you have just put on your first event.

[Jay Evans]

Good luck Dziurzynski, try get a few people onboard and spread out the work load marc described.

Always good to see people trying to pt on events and help the sport grow! *cough* right guys? lol.

[marc goddard]

Jay, sorry to shatter the illusion, but the workload that I described ? It is organised, managed , delivered and sorted by TWO people. No more.

[James Saville]

im holding event in summer...
fight card is slowing building

we got a great main event.
Including female bouts.


should be a blast.

[Jay Evans]

Jay, sorry to shatter the illusion, but the workload that I described ? It is organised, managed , delivered and sorted by TWO people. No more.

Haha, I was trying to be helpful with suggestions for Dziurzynski, I've seen Khanie and Pete run a show on their own managing and organising, wasn't trying to suggest you have a massive team lol

I'm gonna attach a disclaimer with my posts from now on :( lmao

[marc goddard]

Haha, I was trying to be helpful with suggestions for Dziurzynski, I've seen Khanie and Pete run a show on their own managing and organising, wasn't trying to suggest you have a massive team lol

I'm gonna attach a disclaimer with my posts from now on :( lmao

No problem Jay.

My original post is straight down the line fact mate, no point in trying to flower it up. Like I said if he manages all that and he is still standing then big congratulations are in order as he has just completed his first event. As I am sure many a promoter out there will testify.

[Jay Evans]

No problem Jay.

My original post is straight down the line fact mate, no point in trying to flower it up. Like I said if he manages all that and he is still standing then big congratulations are in order as he has just completed his first event.

Best way, I just hope it doesn't put him off as I imagine the end product is very rewarding *achievement wise*.

[James Saville]

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3144/n51905619215090534130uf3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


still looking for fighters. the following:

sixth form student making his debut
year 11 (former hardest in year)


tickects are selling pretty quick...about 3 left..

[marc goddard]

Best way, I just hope it doesn't put him off as I imagine the end product is very rewarding *achievement wise*.

From a satisfaction point of view then yes you are right, when you look round a sold out venue and the atmosphere is electric then it can all be worth it.

But let me tell you that is soon forgotten, firstly by those in attendance !
I would not want to put anyone off, joking aside my original post shows just exactly what amount of detail should go into an event, wether or not new "promoters" chose to do that is entirely up to them.

Bed time now, i've got a show to put on in 10 weeks ;)

[darthcrab]

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3144/n51905619215090534130uf3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


still looking for fighters. the following:

sixth form student making his debut
year 11 (former hardest in year)


tickects are selling pretty quick...about 3 left..

HOLY FUCK, I just cried with laughter

[kaizer]

If ou are thinking of putting on a show and need a cage let me know.

www.furiousangelfightwear.co.uk

[mma boss]

Would the promoter need to tell the police about upcoming events????

[Rich Austin]

Jay, sorry to shatter the illusion, but the workload that I described ? It is organised, managed , delivered and sorted by TWO people. No more.

I can say exactly the same.

[Duchman]

Sounds like its easy work. might put on 6/7 in the next months. i think casuel mma fans should pu more shows on.

[Smiler]

Hi!

As someone who has promoted or co-promoted about 15 shows, I can't believe how simple Marc made it sound! Add in 100's of uncontrollable variables, and you'll get the idea - and Marc didn't set out, I feel, to scare you, just to make you aware....

One thing that we always set out to do was to make sure that we had the cash in the bank available in advance of the show to pay everyone - even if no-one came through the door. By putting on a show you have a legal responsibility to pay, and you can't shirk on it.

On the shows, we were profitable on probably 3 out of every 5. And in respect to the time involved, think about having a fifty hour week for a month, and you'll be part way there.

I don't promote anymore myself through lack time and not being willing to put on the financial risk as this will risk other projects, but I do work on a freelance basis as consultant. I know the risks in putting on a show, and the rewards. My advice is to start small - really small - and understand what you are doing long before you become in too deep. If the big established shows get it wrong and fold, ask yourself the question whether you can get it right? Event management, in particular sports event management, is a particular animal and all promoters on the circuit are learning with every show. Learn from them, develop slowly, and hopefully you'll become another good promoter.

Best regards,

Smiler

[mickholdaway]

If ou are thinking of putting on a show and need a cage let me know.

www.furiousangelfightwear.co.uk

If your thinking of putting on a show and need a padded cell let me know.

[Plastikman]

Manage and match 24 fighters, their team and there managers, book venue, tickets, posters, advertisement. get a Ring / cage, book a ref, book judges, hire an MC , get a timekeeper......sort your security, corner runners, organise mats for the day for warm ups, get trophies / belts.

Organise and book hotels, organise and attend / run a day before weigh in venue, sort the fighters food and drink. make sure doc is there for pre fight medicals, get your film crew ready........ oh and the photographer. organise suitable press / magazine coverage and dont forget to organise a merchandise seller for the event.

get there early on the day of the event, infact just fucken sleep there the night before its far easier. make sure everything is set up to the required standard, dont forget.....scorecards, timer and horn / bell, make sure you have got the glove supplier sorted too, get your raffle tickets in for what ever you have not forgot to organise for the charity / give away in the intervals, make sure all the fighters have handed in there music cause you know what they are like.....make sure all the relevant people have the correct wrist bands / passes etc, over see the layout of the venue and seating, make sure the vip tables are laid out correctly.....along with organising there food and drink.

make sure that you have not forget to organise ring girls, oh and there round cards, what ever you do you will have to have the MC's call cards with all the fighters info ready, shit almost forgot...of course you will need a printed out fight card for the nights entertainment......and that all before your first punter has even walked in the door.

Still standing ? Congratulations, you have just put on your first event.

See? Its a fucking doddle, and a licence to print money too. I knew Kainer was full of shit.

[Daihlo]

Ever noticed that most promoters are balding, balding or possibly where a toupe?

may as well shave head before the first show. that way you wont feel the stress so much.

[Sledge]

One thing that we always set out to do was to make sure that we had the cash in the bank available in advance of the show to pay everyone - even if no-one came through the door. By putting on a show you have a legal responsibility to pay, and you can't shirk on it. ........................



.....................but I do work on a freelance basis as consultant.
Best regards,

Smiler

Please contact Mr T Tailford from Ipswich. He is in need of your services.

[Jay Evans]

I can say exactly the same.

You need to put bits in caps so the illusion breaks :)

[Shaka]

just wondering after reading thro this thread, what (if any) licenses do you need to hold an mma event in the uk? and whats the going rate pay wise for uk guys?

[TheUnfitOne]

Lol at all the promoters trying to discourage competition which may impact on tens or in some cases hundreds of thousand pound profits they make every show.

Come on guys, there is plent of money in UK MMA to round

[apex]

Considering holding an event what type off licence do u need?? all info will be helpfull many thanks


you will need big balls, deep pockets & lots of time to start !!!!!

[Duchman]

Lol at all the promoters trying to discourage competition which may impact on tens or in some cases hundreds of thousand pound profits they make every show.

Come on guys, there is plent of money in UK MMA to round

True.
Again looking down on the avarage mma fan.

Let me start my own DFC

[Smiler]

Lol at the unfitone!

Sorry mate, we're not trying to discourage anyone. Promoting is a hard game and very, very few people break even let alone make money. If any money is made its usually no more than a couple of grand each, and there can be much easier ways of earning that without the risk.

If a show is going to be put on, it needs to be done so properly. Rather than discourage what has been shown is actually the start of a framework for putting on a show - what can be more constructive than that?

Smiler

[mma boss]

Would the promoter need to tell the police about upcoming events????

Anyone????

[Rich Austin]

Anyone????

The Venue itself has a duty to inform the Local Constabulary of forthcoming events etc, but as a Promoter it is very advisable for you to also fill in a form called a Police Awareness Form, it shows you are thorough and professional and are covering all aspects of a show it will help build a good relationship with the local bobbies.

[Duchman]

marc,
can i be your apprentice to run a event.
Kinda like that show with donald trump

[marc goddard]

no problem mate, when you coming over ?

[scotty_82]

Pretty simple really, just move to the north east.

[Duchman]

no problem mate, when you coming over ?

Thanks marc. Your friendship is good. ill have to see when im next over.
One day when i open up the 'avarage mma fan mma events' Amfme Ill ask you for advice.

[Le_Divin_Marquis]

Please dont forget to send the results to sherdog and mmauniverse.

[mma boss]

The Venue itself has a duty to inform the Local Constabulary of forthcoming events etc, but as a Promoter it is very advisable for you to also fill in a form called a Police Awareness Form, it shows you are thorough and professional and are covering all aspects of a show it will help build a good relationship with the local bobbies.

Cheers Rich

[coventrywarrior]

first get examined by a mental health doctor, get yourself signed off as medically insane, and then you are off, oh and start divorce proceedings straight away, saves all the shit in the long run.

[Rich Austin]

first get examined by a mental health doctor, get yourself signed off as medically insane, and then you are off, oh and start divorce proceedings straight away, saves all the shit in the long run.

hahahahahaha
But on the flip side......er, ah, er.....................

[Duchman]

If promoting is so shit, and doesnt make shit. Please explain me why you all live in mansions and sit vip at every ufc. Kainer doesnt have a drivers licence but rolls in a jaguar just to get food down the street.

[KidKimura]

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3144/n51905619215090534130uf3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


still looking for fighters. the following:

sixth form student making his debut
year 11 (former hardest in year)


tickects are selling pretty quick...about 3 left..

That is blatntly an edited dance off!

I'm pretty sure you're mid running man

[MARK UTC]

Q.
Considering holding an event what type off licence do u need?? all info will be helpfull many thanks...

Some Quotes:
"After you have been discharged from Broadmor take all your money and flush it down a drain
Go to the Casino and put all your money on red or black"

"Upside if you win, you're gonna have a lot of money to spend on Champagne, cocaine and fast women. And if you lose, you can rest safe in the knowledge that the amount you lost at the roulette table would be far less than if you did an MMA show

"Expect loads of earache & be prepared to spend loads of money, suffer sleepless nights & be admitted to your local hospital Cardiac unit!"

"you will need big balls, deep pockets & lots of time to start !!!!!

"first get examined by a mental health doctor, get yourself signed off as medically insane, and then you are off, oh and start divorce proceedings straight away, saves all the shit in the long run."

Just reading some of the comments above that have been quoted in relation to the initial question.
Most of the comments that have been posted in answer to this have been in my eyes, mostly negative, epecially from other promoters in relation to starting an event.

Can you please answer the following question?
Why if quote..."need big balls,deep pockets,get certified, prepare to spend loads of money...etc, etc, etc the list goes on.."

Why do you still continue, promote & expand your events throughout the UK? What are your reasons then? in order of preference please.

[ReD_mIst]

Don't let everyone put you off, but make sure you are doing it for the right reasons. If it is for the money, don't bother. Chances are you will make a loss and if you do make some small profit, you will be using that on the second event.

Remember it is going to incredibly hard work, really hard. Everything is on you shoulders and it's hard not to try and do the lot yourself, but you have to find people you can trust and delegate.

Remember that you will have droputs, venue issues and lots of other problems, so get contingency in place now

Don't expect anyone to support you, you soon find out who your real friends are when it comes down to the line.

And finally, only do this if you are prepared to sell no tickets at all, pay everyone what you promosed and still smile. If you can accept that, then everything else will be a bonus.

I personally failed at promoting. Thought I could do it, thought I was smart enough to make it work and it didn't. I listened to people I should of ignored and ignored people I should of listened too. Don't make those mistakes. Perhaps even befriend a UK promoter and ask to work with him on a show, so you can see what it takes. My mistake cost me big (£42,000), don't go in blind and make the same mistakes, cause you will feel a right idiot, like me!

[Sledge]

Why do you still continue, promote & expand your events throughout the UK? What are your reasons then?

Some people hammer nails through their testicles for sexual gratification. Same kind of thing really.