Fructose or Xylitol instead of sugar?

[jayman2606]

I'm wondering which of these is the best Fructose or Xylitol, instead of sugar? Is it worth the effort?

[DetoxGuru.com]

the only decent sugar replacement is stevia , you can get it off ebay , aint the same as sugar though :(, but then again nothing is , I use muscavado sugar instead of white sugar.

[NeilD]

Isnt fructose a sugar? fruit sugars?

[KidKimura]

Usually when someone says 'sugar' they mean sucrose. Fructose is very similar, and I think technically it is considered a sugar along with sucrose and lactose.

I may be wrong but I think sucrose is made up from fructose and glucose.

[Superhornet]

All chemical compunds ending in -ose are sugars.

Theres no fucking point trying to substitute real sugar with an artifical one as the body will react in the same way it would for glucose and there willbe the same if not worse insulin issues.

[Sports-Select.co.uk]

Fructrose is one of the worst sugars for fat storage.

Whist artifical sugars are empty/lower in cals, they do mess with insulin.

[Smiler]

Lol, look at coke and diet coke.

I like this one.

You take coke, your body gets hit by the sugars, produces too much insulin for the carbs, ends up setting you up to store fat. But some insulin is used to process the carbs that are there...

You take diet coke, your body gets hit by the sweeteners, produces too much insulin for the carbs, ends up setting you up to store fat. But here, as its no sugar, no insulin gets used up...meaning next time you eat you'll store more fat...

Simplistic, not worded well, but to summarise drinking diet coke can actually set you up to store more fat!

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[Predator]

Lol, look at coke and diet coke.

I like this one.

You take coke, your body gets hit by the sugars, produces too much insulin for the carbs, ends up setting you up to store fat. But some insulin is used to process the carbs that are there...

You take diet coke, your body gets hit by the sweeteners, produces too much insulin for the carbs, ends up setting you up to store fat. But here, as its no sugar, no insulin gets used up...meaning next time you eat you'll store more fat...

Simplistic, not worded well, but to summarise drinking diet coke can actually set you up to store more fat!

Smiler

So basically drinking say pepsi max which has 0 calories in will store more fat?

So your better off drinking normal coke?

[DetoxGuru.com]

Lol, look at coke and diet coke.

I like this one.

You take coke, your body gets hit by the sugars, produces too much insulin for the carbs, ends up setting you up to store fat. But some insulin is used to process the carbs that are there...

You take diet coke, your body gets hit by the sweeteners, produces too much insulin for the carbs, ends up setting you up to store fat. But here, as its no sugar, no insulin gets used up...meaning next time you eat you'll store more fat...

Simplistic, not worded well, but to summarise drinking diet coke can actually set you up to store more fat!

Smiler

a very good point, i never ever have sweeteners because they fool your brain into thinking you have had sugar , thereby setting up the response you have outlined, and also what do ALL FAT PEOPLE HAVE IN COMMON , massive amounts of diet drinks.

The amount of disgustingly fat people with trolleys full of diet coke is crazy.

[Rob T]

Fat people do also tend to eat a lot of bad food to be fair!

You're right though, a lot of them tend to have a strange predilection to diet soft drinks.

[DetoxGuru.com]

yes you make a good point, maybe they think they can shovel shit down their throat and by drinking 4 litres of diet coke a day that this will somehow reverse the calorific values of their bargain buckets.

[Wiegieboard]

For fake sugars and sweetners. The chemical is changed very slightly so that your body doesn't recognise it as carbohydrate and thus doesn't treat it as such.

I eat what the fuck I like. Food is important to my wellbeing.

[LewisJ]

Sure sweeteners give an insulin response, if they're consumed in large enough amounts. To my knowledge, for most sweeteners if you were to to consume the same amount of glucose and sweetener (e.g. 50 g of each) you would get a similar or slightly smaller total insulin response for the sweetener.

But in a can normal coke there is approx 35g sugar, compared to approx 0.2g aspartame (the sweetener) in a can of diet coke. In other words, there is around 150 times more sugar in normal coke than there is sweetener in diet coke. There will be virtually no insulin response from this much aspartame. In my opinion your example doesn't hold true Smiler.

I'm not saying that drinking diet coke is a healthy option, but if you're looking at energy balance and fat storage the effects of normal coke will be much more detrimental than diet coke.


So basically drinking say pepsi max which has 0 calories in will store more fat?

So your better off drinking normal coke?

In my opinion definately not mate.

[Predator]

Sure sweeteners give an insulin response, if they're consumed in large enough amounts. To my knowledge, for most sweeteners if you were to to consume the same amount of glucose and sweetener (e.g. 50 g of each) you would get a similar or slightly smaller total insulin response for the sweetener.

But in a can normal coke there is approx 35g sugar, compared to approx 0.2g aspartame (the sweetener) in a can of diet coke. In other words, there is around 150 times more sugar in normal coke than there is sweetener in diet coke. There will be virtually no insulin response from this much aspartame. In my opinion your example doesn't hold true Smiler.

I'm not saying that drinking diet coke is a healthy option, but if you're looking at energy balance and fat storage the effects of normal coke will be much more detrimental than diet coke.



In my opinion definately not mate.

Cool,

Cheers coach. I was gonna call you about this lol. but then i remembered you had a leture to write lol

[LewisJ]

Lol. Taking a bit of a break while the rugby's on.