What UK Fighter has the best wrestling???

[fedor150]

What UK Fighter has The Best BJJ?
What UK Fighter Has The Best Stand Up?

Who Ya Got!

[kieronhufc]

wrestling - abdul or hassan

[thaison]

stand up: dan hardy

[Luke]

Id say Robbie Olivier is one of the best.

[AdamB]

Stand Up- Terry Etim

[thaison]

Paul daley best stand up actually.

[karstenbigk]

Id say Robbie Olivier is one of the best.

at what??

BJJ, Stand Up or Wrestling

[Luke]

at what??

BJJ, Stand Up or Wrestling

Read the thread title :rolleyes:

[Luke]

Paul daley best stand up actually.

Genki Sudo has the best intro's!

[DoubleJab]

BJJ - Danny Batten

Stand up - Paul Daley

Wrestling: Abdul Mohammed

[sol_dave]

got to be abdul,i know he is relatively untested as of yet but Hathaway's wrestling has looked great so far

[The Natural]

abdul all day..

anybody rampage refers to as a 'mini randy' has to have shit hot wrestling..

[Bisky]

Dave Faulkner, simply coz he wooped me at it. Looking forward to see him in TUF.

[darthcrab]

Wrestling- robbie.. although ian freeman looked sick in his last fight

BJJ- not really sure anyone stands out so much to the rest, like penn doess in ufc.. id say from what I hear about guys who have faught Radcliffe and how strong he was, id pick him.

Stand up- Etim can throw down, but ive always stuck by paul Daley for my number 1 UK striker

[KidKimura]

BJJ - Danny Batten

Stand up - Paul Daley

Wrestling: Abdul Mohammed

I'll 2nd that one

[slybone]

Tim Radcliffe has got to be one of the best BJJ'ers in UK MMA

[Predator]

Stand IMO Defo Daley, On Sunday his Thai was awsome.

Wrestling for MMA, Abdul, No one hes fought has been able to completly shut out his game.

BJJ is alot harder to decide. lots of guys with solid jits

[bigleeroy1]

wrestling... dave faulkner without a doubt he plays with abdul in the gym... but i would put abdul second defo cant wait to see dave out wrestling yanks on tuf!!

jiu jitsu... tim radcliffe.


striking... bisping!!

[Lee Dickson]

Having trained with Abdul, Faulkner and Hassan i think Hassan has the best wrestling out the 3 easy, Mark Glover for his weight has excellent wrestling too.

[kagemusha]

Striking - Daley

Wrestling - Robbie (IMHO Robbie totally shout done Abduls wrestling in that fight and took him down !!)

BJJ- Danny

[Lee Dickson]

Best Wrestling= Hassan Muiradi
Best stand up= Paul Daley/Terry Etim can t choose
Best Ju Jits= Jason Tan

[Seca Sec]

wrestling... dave faulkner without a doubt he plays with abdul in the gym... but i would put abdul second defo cant wait to see dave out wrestling yanks on tuf!!

jiu jitsu... tim radcliffe.


striking... bisping!!

faulkners twice his size!

[pedro17]

wrestling...Rob Broughton

1) am biased
2) never seen him lose at a comp

[bigleeroy1]

faulkners twice his size!

hardly lol dave is 77kg and cuts from only 80...

[karstenbigk]

wrestling... dave faulkner without a doubt he plays with abdul in the gym... but i would put abdul second defo cant wait to see dave out wrestling yanks on tuf!!

jiu jitsu... tim radcliffe.


striking... bisping!!

I'll second that!!

[crawley_lyndon]

jiu jitsu - lee livingstone

[bigleeroy1]

jiu jitsu - lee livingstone

no disrespect to lee but are you serious?

[Seca Sec]

hardly lol dave is 77kg and cuts from only 80...

ahhh, he looked like a big boy at the TUF trials. I thought he walked about at 90...

[bigleeroy1]

no mate he is quit stocky but only walks around at around 80 he isnt much taller than abdul...

[Duchman]

Wrestling - pound for pound Robbie oliver
Jits - Paul sass
Striking - Daley/Hardy

[Predator]

I agree that Oliver has a mention for the wrestling, Against the cage he is a nightmare.

But i still think Abdul has a better shot.

[crawley_lyndon]

lol yeah lee hes the rough house ground coach won almost all his fights by submissions and made it look easy ask anyone whos rolled with him and they will tell you how good he is at jits

[Lee Dickson]

I remember when i was training with Ian Freeman he complimented Jim Wallhead on his wrestling skills. Said he was a nightmare to take down.

[Predator]

I remember when i was training with Ian Freeman he complimented Jim Wallhead on his wrestling skills. Said he was a nightmare to take down.

Wallhead and Daley both have amazing takedown D

[7881jeff]

i would have to go with robbie olivier, he did shut down abduls takedowns, took abdul down and he is quite a bit smaller than abdul

[The Natural]

great wrestling = easier fight..

[IranianWarMachine]

hassan is iranian so ergo he is the best.

[bigleeroy1]

lol yeah lee hes the rough house ground coach won almost all his fights by submissions and made it look easy ask anyone whos rolled with him and they will tell you how good he is at jits

yeah granted he is a good ground fighter i never said he wasnt but you honestly rate him as the number 1 bjj fighter in the country for mma??.

ill ask lukasz les how hard he was to sub.

[Lee Dickson]

Ye but lucas is capable of catching anyone on his day, don t make lee a bad fighter, its like me Terry and Scanno catch eachother all the time when where not 100% on our game.

[crawley_lyndon]

your first comment wasnt disrespectful because ur allowed your oppion but tht last comment deffently was look at livos record he has one bad spot thats mma it happens i personally think lee would beat lukasz les but thats my oppion

[bigleeroy1]

its not being disrespectfull its a discussion on who you think the top guys are at certain dicaplines and i honestly dont think lee is! granted he is an excellent ground fighter he also has good thai but that does not make him the best!

dickson so who in your oppinion is the top bjj guy "in a fight" is it livingstone?

and it does not matter who catches who in the gym all the time im awsome in the gym... im not in a cage... they are not the same.

and for the record when did i ever say livingstone was a bad fighter lee?

[crawley_lyndon]

ur last comment was disrespectfull u was trying to be funny saying you will ask him how easy lee was to sub tht is disrespectfull

and lee is not just good in the gym look at his record he has subbed wayne murray and in my oppion was beating Eduardo Mahal a wolfsliar brown belt in all areas he is also a brown belt himself

i really do think he has one of the best ground games in uk mma im not sayin he is the top but he is deffently one of them

i also think the bfc will be a great opputunitie for him to show how good he is against the best in britain at his weight class

[Lee Dickson]

I can t comment on who s better out of them cos i aint rolled with lee livingstone so wouldn t even try to comment on it, and i never said you said he was a bad fighter but ya message did seem to come across a bit bad, but it s all opinions in it, i don t agree with some of your statements on here but wouldn t start saying things about them.
its not being disrespectfull its a discussion on who you think the top guys are at certain dicaplines and i honestly dont think lee is! granted he is an excellent ground fighter he also has good thai but that does not make him the best!

dickson so who in your oppinion is the top bjj guy "in a fight" is it livingstone?

and it does not matter who catches who in the gym all the time im awsome in the gym... im not in a cage... they are not the same.

and for the record when did i ever say livingstone was a bad fighter lee?

[bigleeroy1]

i never said lee was only good in the gym that comment was aimed at dickson in regard to his remark about people catching each other in the, if you are going to twist my words then im going to sound bad am i not?

and yes dicko its all oppinions mate your right.

and as for mahal he was a blue belt when i trained with him and im sure he fought lee before i was even at wolfslair. somebody correct me if im wrong?

[Lee Dickson]

Mahal was a nice lad but his ju jitsu was not the best to be honest. Tom Blackledge and Lucas had the best ground game when i was there.
i never said lee was only good in the gym that comment was aimed at dickson in regard to his remark about people catching each other in the, if you are going to twist my words then im going to sound bad am i not?

and yes dicko its all oppinions mate your right.

and as for mahal he was a blue belt when i trained with him and im sure he fought lee before i was even at wolfslair. somebody correct me if im wrong?

[crawley_lyndon]

end of day mate twisting words or not the comment on asking les how easy it was to sub lee was disrespectfull lee livingstone IS one of the best ground fighters in the uk aswel as good stand up skills cba to discuss it anymore

[bigleeroy1]

no you said he was THE best thats the claim i was refuting, i agree with you he is very good i also said his thai was very good it wasnt disrespectfull at all lukasz subbed him quik i was just making a point... why not ask tim radclife how easy it was to sub me if it makes you feel any better!!

[crawley_lyndon]

ok mate i will do

[bigleeroy1]

Mahal was a nice lad but his ju jitsu was not the best to be honest. Tom Blackledge and Lucas had the best ground game when i was there.

we agree on something then!!

[Lee Dickson]

Ye mate we do but i wouldn t bother arguing on here mate it s a waste of energy and time.
we agree on something then!!

[AJones]

I think Jason Tan has the best BJJ
With a record of 10 consecutive wins all by submission in the first round , apart from 1, Paul Sass has to be up there aswell.

I havnt wrestled with many people bu as Dicko said Mark Glover is a nightmare to takedown so ill go for him.

[Artful]

Mick Sinclair gets my vote on the UK scene..........

[robs1980]

people are always gona choose there gym mates.

[MMAlien]

people are always gona choose there gym mates.

in that case i choose paul jenkins and denzil the are the best wrestlers in uk MMA:D

[Artful]

in that case i choose paul jenkins and denzil the are the best wrestlers in uk MMA:D

Fuck it then........Neil Fraser, Carl Noon and of course the champ Rob Sinclair

[pie eater]

i like boobies

[bigleeroy1]

Fuck it then........Neil Fraser, Carl Noon and of course the champ Rob Sinclair

neil fraser is actually quite a good wrestler lol he has a mong strength clinch!!

[Dmjohn2000]

Hassan is in Thailand. Abdul is the best wrestler he is awesome when Ive trained against him, and there is some some amazing wrestlers coming out of Five Lions gym watch out for K-wan in the near future hes only fought 1amature and one semi but hes threw his oppenants all over the cage

[The Natural]

Hassan is in Thailand. Abdul is the best wrestler he is awesome when Ive trained against him, and there is some some amazing wrestlers coming out of Five Lions gym watch out for K-wan in the near future hes only fought 1amature and one semi but hes threw his oppenants all over the cage

Dude..where is five lions gym? Middlesborough?
Who owns it? Is it abduls gym?

I have heard alot of good things about this K-wan guy..his wrestling is supposed to be sick..He's a 66kg fighter is'nt he?

[Ultimateforceuk]

Wrestling - Tom Blackledge
Stand up - Mike Bisping/Dan Hardy

Bjj - Too many to list but to name a few. Pete Irvin, Dave Lee, Marc Walder(way back),Paul Sass, Lee Livingstone

[Mike Bishop]

Wrestling -Abdul/Robbie

BJJ - Danny Batten

Striking - Daley/Hardy

There are other notables but for me the choices are pretty clear. Will always remember getting battered by Hassan Muradi at Andy Jardine's place when I was fairly new at it - absolutely fucking smashed me. Reckon I still have the bruises

[IranianWarMachine]

yeah granted he is a good ground fighter i never said he wasnt but you honestly rate him as the number 1 bjj fighter in the country for mma??.

ill ask lukasz les how hard he was to sub.

Lukasz is an animal rolled with him, and his power was ridiculous very explosive good all around ground fighter very strong. Gutted he didn't go on tuf.

[IranianWarMachine]

tellys has a good shoot, prob the best out of the English fighters.

[nrallen]

tom watson has the best striking, he competes a lot outside of mma as well in boxing and muay thai - full thai rules too.

[mmafighter999]

Standup - Paul Daley/Matt Thorpe

Bjj - Danny Mitchell

Wrestling - Ian Freeman/Pete Hill/Rob Broughton

[sol_dave]

tom watson has the best striking, he competes a lot outside of mma as well in boxing and muay thai - full thai rules too.

does he manage to convert it over tho?

for instance hasnt jeff monson had pro boxing fights? doesant look like a pro to me when he is in mma

totally different game

[rocop]

Wrestling - Abdul, honestly you think your doing ok then your flat on your back, not your side or in half guard FLAT on your back.

Striking - Daley / Hardy

Jits - Irvings s**t hot, but i am very much biased.

[die hard]

judo jim " nuff said "

[nrallen]

does he manage to convert it over tho?

for instance hasnt jeff monson had pro boxing fights? doesant look like a pro to me when he is in mma

totally different game

yes he does.

[DavidDavidson]

Wrestling: Abdul

Jits: Sukata

Striking: Hardy

[quartz]

tom baxter is just the best in the uk :)

[quartz]

hes got the best stand up an the best jits

[brawler4life]

tom baxter got loads of fans on this forum haha (im one)

[David Swann]

Strking; Hardy
Wrestling; Hathaway
BJJ; many as everyone else has stated I think Radclife will proove no 1 this year

[brawler4life]

bjj - sukata
wrestling - abdul
thai- terry or daley