training twice a day ?

[Bateman]

for 3 days a week I am training twice a day, looks something like this (below)
Saturday doesnt bother me as i tend to run before I box, just split it out over the day.

Is there anything i need to consider whilts doing this training twice a day, calories, food, rest ? or just carry on as normal

I train once a week on other days, just these days i do it twice

thursday: Boxing - 12.00 - 1pm ,1 hour BJJ 6 - 7pm ,1 Hour
Boxing is technical and padwork mainly


Friday: BJJ 7.00 am - 8.30 am 1.5 hours Boxing 7 - 8.30 1.5 hours
BJJ 1 to 1 with instructor - fitness sparring


Saturday: 8.00 am 5k Run Boxing 3 - 4.30pm

thanks

[DetoxGuru.com]

I like to train and then make mad love to my woman immediatley upon returning home does that count as training twice?

You make sure you are getting plenty of rest and good quality sleep ( buy some gaba wink wink :) )

[DanCrase]

I like to make love to my woman, then immediately go and force out a massive shit in the toilet whilst she's cleaning my jizz off her tits; does this count as training twice?, cause that shit is usually a real battle.

[Predator]

Only thing that has helped me training several times a day is eating my carbs after sessions not before.

And protein before i go

[DanCrase]

Also, on a serious note; ideally you should leave atleast 3-4 hours between sessions to allow your liver to restore its glycogen stores

[Luke]

Only thing that has helped me training several times a day is eating my carbs after sessions not before.

And protein before i go

Seriously? I thought the general consensus was eat carbs before and protein after.

As for the above, I'd add an extra hour to those 1 hour sessions and do more running... maybe throw in a weight circuit and the odd sprint sessions. 10-20 minutes of sprints gets you well knackered!

[ChrissyS]

Yeah the body definitely grows, shapens up and hardens more when resting so going overkill at the gym can obviously have more cons than pro's in my opinion especially doubling up the same type of training..

Weightlifting, free weights ect followed by a specific boxing session or something along those lines may not be too bad, but 7 days a week would be too much in my opinion, the body needs time to recoup and heal to then be able to max out your potential..

[Acidvoodoo]

The body is able to restore muscle glycogen most rapidly during the hours immediately following exercise, so if you train twice per day you should make it a priority to take on some high glyceamic index (simple carbs) foods immediately following the first session to take advantage of this.

[ReD_mIst]

Don't most fighters train 2-3 times a day/4-5 times a week?

Cardio - early AM
Strength and conditioning - Midday
Technique and sparring - evening

Eating the right foods and supplments, plus good rest in between....

[MiniJoe]

this is what i do
Monday
6am breakfast have carbs such as porriage and fruit
7am swimming until 9:00am
tredmil, spinning 9:00-9.40am
weight's -9:40 until 10:40am or 11am
18:00pm-19:00pm boxing pad work and bag work

Wensday
7am swimming until 9:00am
spinning 9:00-9.20am
weight's -9:20 until 10:40am or 11am

friday
7am swimming until 9:00am
tredmil, spinning 9:00-9.40am
weight's -9:40 until 10:40am or 11am

saturday:
MMA in morning
weights


Have a big meal, full of protein such as fish, salad, fruit, some nuts, potatoes or cus cus etc, if your going to train twice i would say make sure you have more carb's before you train and the best food i would say is potatoes, bread, beans, rice or cus cus, then have protein food's after you have worked out, i fyou have it before you will burn the protein foods you had previsouly.

[Smiler]

Hi,

I train 2-4xdaily monday to friday, 1xsat and 1xsun.

It took a long time to build up to that, let alone build up to the level of intensity at the sessions too!

Don't follow my diet, as everyone should follow their own as every body is different...so instead...

Rest is important. Allow yourself at least 24hours once a week without training, to allow your smooth and cardiac muscles to recover. Don't do two killer sessions the same day. Don't stress your body the same way on consecutive days.

In respect to food following intense training try the following:

Remember the 'recovery window', the body has higher rates of muscle glycogen storage in the first two hours following exercise, so aim to get 1-1.2g/kg/hr of carbs, along with a 10-20g of protein hit immediately after training.

If you go overboard on protein you will displace the carbohydrates and prevent adequate refuelling of muscle glycogen.

Don't forget your fluid too - you rehydrate at 1.5litres per hour....so sip until you start peeing...with the optimum sodium content of 50mmol/litre...

Hope this helps!

Best regards,

Smiler

[Duchman]

never mind,,,,,,,,,,,,

[Fisha]

what is it that replensishes ya sodium levels? and how much of whatever it is should you be taking, do you just get it from water?

[Nak-Muay]

First work out if you need to train twice a day... for example.. As Gary said, he trains 2-4 times a day but then look at his training... it is instense. I myself train twice a day because I need the recovery time.

If you do mainly technique stuff then there is no reason to do say an hours strength/conditioning in the morning and 2 hours technique in the evening. You could just do 3 hours straight.

If however both your sessions are intense, mine for example I do Weights/Conditioning/Sprinting in the morning which exhausts me. Then I do HARD sparring/Bag Work/Padwork in the evening. I need the 8 hours rest inbetween sessions to get my energy levels back and let my body recover.

[paddylast]

On the note of getting enough rest and so forth in between training.. This one always beats the hell out of me..

Paul Daley had video of his training regime up on the proelite site a while back.
It was like, he trains jiu-jitsu in the morning then seems to go straight to meet with some conditioning coach and does conditioning training and then goes and trains thai boxing. All of this seemed to be done with little or no rest in between? Everyday? I can't quite remember but did he do another session at the end of that?

I would imagine that if your really focused on exactly what you want to achieve in each session then you can use your energy most efficiently.
But that kind of training three/four times a day, everyday? For real?

[Smiler]

Hi Paddy, yep, it can be done...although lets face it Paul's a bit of a freak with his training.

I've been training many times a week since 1974 and its only because of the gradual building up and system of training I have in place that I can now carry out the quantity and volume of training I now do...

Rest assured Paul didn't just leap into it like that, but built it up steadily...

The training effect takes two weeks but true adaptation will take 6 weeks...Paul will have periodised his training gradually increasing the volume each week for 2-4weeks, then having an easy week, then picking it up again...the gradual increase and periodisation would give his body a chance to adjust and adapt with the rest week helping to prevent total breakdown and injuries...

But, as I said, Paul's a freak with the intensity and quantity of his training...

Smiler

[NeilD]

Its do-able to train like Paul or Gary but you absolutely must not jump into it or you WILL burn out and do yourself damage. Building up the work capacity to be able to do 2x or more workouts daily takes quite a while.. A lot of the time when fighters train 2 or more times a day that is for a short (fight camp) period of time.. still train after but reduce volume or intensity (varying opinions on that). Periodization of your training and introducing back-off periods (imho) is essential.

Like Gary said though everyone is different.. I have a fairly high work capacity but sometimes workouts some guys do - or amount of work they do - leaves me shaking my head in amazement.. Your always capable of more than you think too.. As ever good nutrition, hydration and rest is just as important.