Michael Jackson is dead!

[kaizer]

It's on sky news now. Died of a heart attack.

Very sad. Hope I get my money back.

[baz_main]

ur all heart lol, rip

[James-w]

this was so yesterday :)

[Jamie Taylor]

R.I.P but.....

Why is this in the pro mma section ?

[Annitsford]

Jackson just signed for UFC.. thats why...

[markjitsu]

because michael jackson's passing is more important than 'i want henderson to beat bisping" - imo anyway

[Stu]

Meh.

Sad news, obviously, to some anyway.

But he'll probably be remembered just as much for his controversies as his music. And i can already see myself getting sick of the "Jade Goodie effect", media and general public clammering to express all these huge emotions after so many years of sticking the boot in on the guy.

[markjitsu]

this will be like elvis all over again - people will insist he's still alive/faked his own death etc, and there will be sightings of him for decades...

[brawler4life]

not important enough to have its own thread on this forum

[brawler4life]

any good mj jokes people heard?

my favorite

whats the difference between ferguson and mj

ferguson will play gigs in august ha classic

[SirFapsAlot]

2 hours ago called, it wants its news back.

[baz_main]

brawler4life
not important enough to have its own thread on this forum


and wat would u say is important to get its own thread

[Stu]

Uri Gellar actually just said on Sky "He drank their love".

Fuck.

[brawler4life]

whats the contact number for o2 arena cause i need to get a refund would be a cool thread title

[baz_main]

aye real gd thread name fool

[Serotonin+]

has he died twice?

[brawler4life]

aye real gd thread name fool


why you getting angry for you little punk? a thread of mj on the pro mma forum is dumb enough

anyway it sounds like he was your friend when you was young but we wont go into that it might be a sensitive subject haha

[Stu]

aye real gd thread name fool

Did MJ drink your love?

[brawler4life]

he died of cardiac arrest, starvation of oxygen to the heart and he was supposed to perform at the O2 quite weird

[brawler4life]

Did MJ drink your love?

he was mjs dummy to practise on

[Stu]

he died of cardiac arrest, starvation of oxygen to the heart and he was supposed to perform at the O2 quite weird

Man, life is a cunt!

[baz_main]

he was mjs dummy to practise on

aye thats wat it is

[Stu]

aye thats wat it is

Wanna buy a theme park?

[Allan Shrek]

Turns out they are going to melt michael jackson down to make plastic toys. That ways kids can play with him for a change.

[fishface]

Allan

that joke was so 1135pm LAST night lol :D

get with it dahhhlinggggggg!!


F

[baz_main]

Wanna buy a theme park?

hes not got that any more anyways lol

[brogan]

brawler4life
not important enough to have its own thread on this forum


and wat would u say is important to get its own thread

Brawler4life is right....


This is the Pro MMA section, Pro MMA discussion which is used for "anything MMA related", as stated under the title ?

Has MJ been signed up for the UFC or any other MMA organisation previous to this unfortunate event, does he have an involvement in MMA ???

[brogan]

why you getting angry for you little punk? a thread of mj on the pro mma forum is dumb enough

anyway it sounds like he was your friend when you was young but we wont go into that it might be a sensitive subject haha

hahahahaha !

fuckin mint !

[Malcontent]

The news is on and all I can see is stupid people who have never met him crying their eyes out as though their mother has died.

I will never understand this kind of thing. The mass hysteria when Diana died was every bit as baffling.

Thriller was a truly great album though.

[Rich Austin]

one word PATHETIC

He is a Paedo end of sorry WAS.

Unfortunatly Michael Jacksons latest two dates have been cancelled, they were Bobby aged 9 and David aged 7

[ReD_mIst]

I don't have any opinion on Michael Jackson, never even paid much attention to his music or his life.

Out of interest, when was he found guilty of being a peado? I know there was two cases, one settled out of court and then the second he was acquitted. When was he foung guitly?

[dawson]

rip to an absolute legend

[dawson]

he was never fond guilty it was always the kids parents wanting cash hope they feel good about themselves

[ReD_mIst]

In the first case the parents got money, but in the second case it went to court and MJ was acquitted. How can that of been about the parents wanting money.

The only people who make money out of it are the media.

[Bateman]

I heard that the Doctor said he looked pretty pale before he died

[londonpride]

The news is on and all I can see is stupid people who have never met him crying their eyes out as though their mother has died.

I will never understand this kind of thing. The mass hysteria when Diana died was every bit as baffling.

Thriller was a truly great album though.

agree with that. it is quite baffling.

he was aquited of being a nonce, then again, how much money did he have to spend on the best lawyers and buying out the families!!
i think it's bang out of order to turn this around on the families as "just wanting money".

we'll never know if he was genuinly a peado, but the fact he had young kids regularly staying in his bed is just wrong in itself.

he's no loss to this world.

[Nimmy]

agree with that. it is quite baffling.

he's no loss to this world.

your having a laugh man, top 3 greatest music acts of all time Elvis, Beatles, Michael Jackson.

He did more for music than anyone could dream about.

Jackson was huge mate, huge loss to the world.

I was a Jackson fan, RIP Jacko

[jonny rotten]

Jacko lived the American dream....born as a poor black boy and died as a rich white woman.

[jumzee]

Jacko lived the American dream....born as a poor black boy and died as a rich white woman.

Awesome!!!! Ha ha ha

[RGS1]

one word PATHETIC

He is a Paedo end of sorry WAS.

Unfortunatly Michael Jacksons latest two dates have been cancelled, they were Bobby aged 9 and David aged 7

I didn't think any court had found him guilty. Still, I guess you can't libel the dead.

But you can show a complete lack of class.

[AntonM]

Man thats a sad day, i grew up on his music. He will trully b missed! RIP

[Death wish]

jacko really died affter tripping over a pram doctors are not blaming it on sunshine not blaming it on the moonlight but are blaming it on the buggy

[Plastikman]

In the first case the parents got money, but in the second case it went to court and MJ was acquitted. How can that of been about the parents wanting money.

.


I imagine the idea was to win a legal case, then clean him out in a civil case afterwards?

[Rich Austin]

RGS1 Class? give over lol

[Death wish]

dident take them long thers a site about dead jacko jokes
http://www.deadmichaeljacksonjokes.com/

[Plastikman]

one word PATHETIC

He is a Paedo end of sorry WAS.



I am going on record right now as swearing that you, Rich Austin, are a child molester.

[Rob T]

one word PATHETIC

He is a Paedo end of sorry WAS.


So if I accuse you of being a paedo, it's automatically true?

[RGS1]

RGS1 Class? give over lol

Excellent argument. You sir, are an intelligent chap!

[darthcrab]

there is no doubt Jackson was a strange one, and letting kids sleep in his bed isnt normal at all, but I genuinly dont think it was anything more, than he was abit gone in the head, he wasnt a paedofile, as he would have been convicted of this twice

[Rob T]

there is no doubt Jackson was a strange one, and letting kids sleep in his bed isnt normal at all, but I genuinly dont think it was anything more, than he was abit gone in the head, he wasnt a paedofile, as he would have been convicted of this twice

Agreed. I think people forgot about or underestimate how strange it must be to have worldwide superstardom from 5 years old.

[Plastikman]

Agreed. I think people forgot about or underestimate how strange it must be to have worldwide superstardom from 5 years old.

And worse, to essentially be kept as a fucking slave by your own father.

[jonny rotten]

The religious world is said to be outraged after allegations that Michael Jackson is having sleepovers with Baby Jesus

[Rob T]

And worse, to essentially be kept as a fucking slave by your own father.

Indeed!

Guy never had a chance to be anything remotely close to normal.

[IjumpGuard]

Indeed!

Guy never had a chance to be anything remotely close to normal.

does this make it right what he done, guilty or not guilty you cant condone wat happened in the neverland ranch

[Rob T]

does this make it right what he done, guilty or not guilty you cant condone wat happened in the neverland ranch

What happened?

[UltimatePunch]

I doubt he did anything. Im not being funny but if sumone did abuse ur kid u wouldnt settle out of court...no fucking chance. And he was aquitted of the other claims so i just see it as vultures circling a vulnerable person. He was a weird fucker, and must have had a shit life behind the stardom but fuckin hell he was a fucking awesome in the 80's. I doubt anyone will top Thriller. Ever

[Ben C]

Apparantly it was hereditary, it was in his billy gene!
Oh and just because he wasn't found guilty in the courtroom doesn't mean he didn't do it! OJ Simpson springs to mind! How many innocent people are put away and guilty walk free!

[Leigh]

Can't believe I'm first to post it...

Wrong forum asshole!

[jonny rotten]

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h7/jonny-rotten/tombstone-2.jpg

[ReD_mIst]

Apparantly it was hereditary, it was in his billy gene!
Oh and just because he wasn't found guilty in the courtroom doesn't mean he didn't do it! OJ Simpson springs to mind! How many innocent people are put away and guilty walk free!


Luckily most law structures in the civilised world works on innocent until proven guilty.

I have no opinion on his guilt, but anyone who does and has based that opinion on the media should think carefully

[Rob T]

Apparantly it was hereditary, it was in his billy gene!
Oh and just because he wasn't found guilty in the courtroom doesn't mean he didn't do it! OJ Simpson springs to mind! How many innocent people are put away and guilty walk free!

True, guilty people walk free every day around the world. Many more will never even go to trial.

What gives anyone unconnected with the case any insight as to his guilt though? Only a very small number of people know for sure what happened, the rest of us need to accept the decision of the court imo.

[ReD_mIst]

True, guilty people walk free every day around the world. Many more will never even go to trial.

What gives anyone unconnected with the case any insight as to his guilt though? Only a very small number of people know for sure what happened, the rest of us need to accept the decision of the court imo.

Correct, Which is the whole point of having a justice system and a court. Just cause the media find him guilty and influence the public.... the media have not been charged with carrying out justice!

[Rich Austin]

plastik u donut!
Unfortunately i dont have $20m to shut u up and not tell!
Is he your family or friend? Does he owe u £ ?no, shut the fuck up then saddos.0i bet u cried over jade goody aswell. Lol

[Plastikman]

plastik u donut!
Unfortunately i dont have $20m to shut u up and not tell!
Is he your family or friend? Does he owe u £ ?no, shut the fuck up then saddos.0i bet u cried over jade goody aswell. Lol

Shut it, you fucking nonce.

[Rob T]

plastik u donut!
Unfortunately i dont have $20m to shut u up and not tell!
Is he your family or friend? Does he owe u £ ?no, shut the fuck up then saddos.0i bet u cried over jade goody aswell. Lol

Sorry, I didn't realise you were a total cock.






I didn't mean the bit where I said "sorry".

[Augustus Gloop]

your having a laugh man, top 3 greatest music acts of all time Elvis, Beatles, Michael Jackson.

He did more for music than anyone could dream about.

Jackson was huge mate, huge loss to the world.


imo its no great loss to the world. even if you put aside all the controversy he hasnt done anything important in music for nearly 10 years

[moogie101]

Can't say I'm bothered personally as was never a fan of his mucis.

I am amazed however how yet again someone dies & the public & media start to portray them as a freaking saint.
I was always under the assumnption that most people had dismissed him as a nutter & possible paedo who used money & celebrity to get away with it
Exactly as the media did for Jade.

[Bateman]

so is Farrah Fawcett , gutted... She was hot , and Charlies Angels rocked

Jacko is a sad fucked up loser...

[Rob T]

As far as him dying goes, I really don't care either way. Loads of people die all the time.

[madhorsebjj]

Decided to check up the details of the case. Turns out in the search of the hosue there was loads of pictures of naked boys, lots of gay porn of teenage 'barely legal material' and a key piece of evidence, the underwear of the boy who he molested. It is amazing that with all the evidence, both circumstancial and otherwise that he managed to get off. Shows you what a good lawyer, fame and loads of money can buy you.

Check the link if you're interested.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/michaeljackson/010605jacksonhouse.html

[payner]

There is a bloke who works down our Chip Shop swears he's Michael Jackson ?
Chris.

[Plastikman]

Decided to check up the details of the case. Turns out in the search of the hosue there was loads of pictures of naked boys, lots of gay porn of teenage 'barely legal material' and a key piece of evidence, the underwear of the boy who he molested. It is amazing that with all the evidence, both circumstancial and otherwise that he managed to get off. Shows you what a good lawyer, fame and loads of money can buy you.

Check the link if you're interested.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/michaeljackson/010605jacksonhouse.html

Did you actually read the article you posted?

So they found (in the house of an adult male) some fairly run of the mill hetro porn, what sounds like an arty coffee table book of nudes and a spare pair of kids underwear in his daughters bathroom.

[ReD_mIst]

Interesting read, but no actual compelling evidence, some circumstantial, but nothing damning. "Barely Legal", is still legal and it isn't illeagal to own gay material (there might be an issue showing these to a minor, not sure if Michael Jackson was ever charged with that).

The underwear is no where near "key". It is well publcised that Michael allowed (with the parents consent) children to stay over. It would be easy to assume that at some point the child will of changed clothes.

You wouldn't need a good lawyer to be acquited, just a reasonable IQ

*By the way I am no way saying that MJ was innocent or guilty. If you look at his lifestyle, then it certaily points at guilt, but to make someone guilty based on lifestyle and circumstantial evidence is a damn slippy slope.... and one tha should worry anyone involved in a combat sport... *

[markjitsu]

Decided to check up the details of the case. Turns out in the search of the hosue there was loads of pictures of naked boys, lots of gay porn of teenage 'barely legal material' and a key piece of evidence, the underwear of the boy who he molested. It is amazing that with all the evidence, both circumstancial and otherwise that he managed to get off. Shows you what a good lawyer, fame and loads of money can buy you.

Check the link if you're interested.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/michaeljackson/010605jacksonhouse.html

i've looked at the link, and this is mis-leading imo.
it says they found commercially produced books,(some porn, some not) containing photographs of naked people, and in a kids bathroom, they found childrens under wear.

[ReD_mIst]

Worth noting that The Smoking Gun, is hardly independant. It is a commercial company that is supported by advertisements, etc It also has other media outlets such as the TV program, Worlds Dumbest Criminals.

Hardly a reliable source to convict someone of a felony crime, is it.....

[Plastikman]

*By the way I am no way saying that MJ was innocent or guilty. If you look at his lifestyle, then it certaily points at guilt,

Im not so sure it does. Any of the actual porn that was found was of females, of legal age, which if anything contradicts the claim that he has a predilection for underage boys (all his accusers were male i think).

Manchild, yes. Paedo, I dont think so.

[ReD_mIst]

I dind't refer to the evidence found, I said lifestyle.

This is a middle aged man who build a childs fun fair in the grounds of his mansion, stated he often let the children sleep in his bed when they stayed over. It's not typical behaviour of a middle aged man, even a very wealthy one. it doesn't make him guilty, but it does raise eyebrows.

[londonpride]

tbh whether he was guilty or not, he was still a fucking wrong'un. for normal people who never knew him to be collapsing in grief...fucking warped imo.

the geezer was a sicko, whether he touched the kids or not, he admitted to sleeping in the bed with dozens of underage children. just wrong.

as for the case, i've been around the legal system enough to trust it as much as i trust my 29 day old loaf of bread to still be eatable.
we only have to look at the OJ case to see where fame and money get you in the legal system.
garunteed any joe bloggs who got nicked for the same case and evidence as jacko, they wouldn't be seeing light of day for some time (not that jacko is anyway lol).
im not in the position to say he is definately guilty or not, but a not guilty verdict for a bloke who had 200 million to spend on the best lawyer team in the world doesn't mean fuck all imo, i'd be dubious over any outcome.

[Ben C]

I wonder who will be saying "RIP to Gary Glitter" or "But he was a great musician" when he dies! Will be very interesting!

[londonpride]

im also baffled by people making excuses for his fucked up behaviour.
forgetting the whole peado case, there was no excuse for his general behaviour, letting underage kids in his bed, building a fun fair to entice kids around, only hanging around children, even dangling a baby out of a window or covering its face in a blanket.

it was warped, and there shouldn't be excuses made for that behaviour. there's been plenty of child stars who grew up in the lime light who haven't turned into wrong'uns. even young britney didn't take things that far.

[ReD_mIst]

The difference being Gary Glitter was convicted... oh and his music was shit!

[londonpride]

I wonder who will be saying "RIP to Gary Glitter" or "But he was a great musician" when he dies! Will be very interesting!

there's people who still mourn on the anniversary of hitlers death, so nothing surprises me with the human race.:mad:

[ReD_mIst]

im also baffled by people making excuses for his fucked up behaviour.
forgetting the whole peado case, there was no excuse for his general behaviour, letting underage kids in his bed, building a fun fair to entice kids around, only hanging around children, even dangling a baby out of a window or covering its face in a blanket.

it was warped, and there shouldn't be excuses made for that behaviour. there's been plenty of child stars who grew up in the lime light who haven't turned into wrong'uns. even young britney didn't take things that far.

I don't think anyone on here has made excuses for his behaviour. I personally think he is suspect, but i have never seen any evidence that is damning, only suspect. Withchunting the people that the media tell us to isn't the way I want to think...

[ReD_mIst]

there's people who still mourn on the anniversary of hitlers death, so nothing surprises me with the human race.:mad:

... shit music career though!

[Ben C]

im also baffled by people making excuses for his fucked up behaviour.
forgetting the whole peado case, there was no excuse for his general behaviour, letting underage kids in his bed, building a fun fair to entice kids around, only hanging around children, even dangling a baby out of a window or covering its face in a blanket.

it was warped, and there shouldn't be excuses made for that behaviour. there's been plenty of child stars who grew up in the lime light who haven't turned into wrong'uns. even young britney didn't take things that far.

You seen the south park episode "The Jeffersons"?

[londonpride]

You seen the south park episode "The Jeffersons"?

quality episode.

"NO YOU'RE JUST IGNORANT, IT'S IGNORANCE"

:D

[Plastikman]

tbh whether he was guilty or not, he was still a fucking wrong'un. for normal people who never knew him to be collapsing in grief...fucking warped imo.

the geezer was a sicko, whether he touched the kids or not, he admitted to sleeping in the bed with dozens of underage children. just wrong.

as for the case, i've been around the legal system enough to trust it as much as i trust my 29 day old loaf of bread to still be eatable.
we only have to look at the OJ case to see where fame and money get you in the legal system.
garunteed any joe bloggs who got nicked for the same case and evidence as jacko, they wouldn't be seeing light of day for some time (not that jacko is anyway lol).
im not in the position to say he is definately guilty or not, but a not guilty verdict for a bloke who had 200 million to spend on the best lawyer team in the world doesn't mean fuck all imo, i'd be dubious over any outcome.

The guy had a fucked up childhood(difference between him and spears, is that Jacksons father was the major negative influence, Britneys father is the only thing keeping her sane) and undeniablely had issues, but dispite numerous accusations no evidence that he was dangerous ever materialized.

You claim that he got aquited because he was rich, lets be honest here, he got aquitted because the evidence didnt support a guilty verdict. He got ACCUSED because he was rich, and the parents of the kids saw him as an easy pay day.

[pauljono1120]

Reports are coming in that Michael Jackson has died at the hands of a smooth criminal. However his family are refusing to blame the sunshine, moonlight or the good times, instead they are insisting they will be continue to blame it on the boogie.

[peggle]

Some really lame and pathetic white van man shit up in here.

[SawaPawa]

Reports are coming in that Michael Jackson has died at the hands of a smooth criminal. However his family are refusing to blame the sunshine, moonlight or the good times, instead they are insisting they will be continue to blame it on the boogie.

it was the last one, he was dancing when he had the cardiac arrest.

I've heard conflicting reports though, one source said that it was actually food poisoning that did it. He'd been eating nine year old nuts.

[markjitsu]

tbh whether he was guilty or not, he was still a fucking wrong'un.

the geezer was a sicko,

i've been around the legal system enough ...

so, even if he was innocent, he's still a "wrong'un"

why?

and why have you been involved so much with the legal system? - is it because you are a "wrong'un"?

[sol_dave]

Jackson "what really happened" channel 4 docu can be found on pirate bay, changed my opinion when i watched it wont say which way :)

[pauljono1120]

Imagine if they did an autopsy on jacko.....

Amg life from mars@!!!

No thats jacko.


P.s bored........ Hopefully see some retards crying on tv when i get home, woo :D

[londonpride]

Some really lame and pathetic white van man shit up in here.

did you edit your post and add in the "van" bit so you're not accused of racism?


lol

[Ian23]

I dind't refer to the evidence found, I said lifestyle.

This is a middle aged man who build a childs fun fair in the grounds of his mansion, stated he often let the children sleep in his bed when they stayed over. It's not typical behaviour of a middle aged man, even a very wealthy one. it doesn't make him guilty, but it does raise eyebrows.

didn't have the typical upbringing that a typical middle aged man would have tho did he.

i bet most people would turn out slightly weird if they had a similar upbringing. it's easy to say you'd be fine when you've never expierenced something but how do u think you'd deal with having everything you do caught on camera from the age of 5/being abused everyday as a kid??

[londonpride]

so, even if he was innocent, he's still a "wrong'un"

why?

and why have you been involved so much with the legal system? - is it because you are a "wrong'un"?

i was involved with the legal system as i had a year and a half at uni studying law before i gave it up, a mate of mines a lawyer who's defended a few of my other mates, who are wrong'uns.

he's a wrong'un for reasons previously mentioned, i.e. being a grown man inviting random children to sleep in his bed. hanging his baby over a balcony etc.
or is that acceptable behaviour?

[Nimmy]

i was involved with the legal system as i had a year and a half at uni studying law before i gave it up, a mate of mines a lawyer who's defended a few of my other mates, who are wrong'uns.

he's a wrong'un for reasons previously mentioned, i.e. being a grown man inviting random children to sleep in his bed. hanging his baby over a balcony etc.
or is that acceptable behaviour?

what about mentally ill people? are they wronguns because they do crazy shit? i think he mightv been mentally ill

[londonpride]

what about mentally ill people? are they wronguns because they do crazy shit? i think he mightv been mentally ill

lol.

that's a completely different kettle of fish. if he were mentally ill he wouldn't have stood trial, his lawyers would most certainly have gotten it postponed indefinately.

some strange replies though, are there really that many people on here who actually don't think he is a complete wrong'un? irregardless of the peado case, his other behaviour was nothing short of wrong.

[sol_dave]

didn't have the typical upbringing that a typical middle aged man would have tho did he.

i bet most people would turn out slightly weird if they had a similar upbringing. it's easy to say you'd be fine when you've never expierenced something but how do u think you'd deal with having everything you do caught on camera from the age of 5/being abused everyday as a kid??

no idea but im guessing a large percentage of killers, rapists and child abusers have had a bad childhood

[BruceLeeMMAfighting.net]

some strange replies though, are there really that many people on here who actually don't think he is a complete wrong'un? irregardless of the peado case, his other behaviour was nothing short of wrong.

I just always assumed he was weird because he was a Castrato who was castrated at a young age to preserve his beautiful boy voice. The guy had zero musculature on his body which is a result of not being able to produce testosterone. That would explain why he was so odd although a genius singer and musician.

[pedro17]

lol.

that's a completely different kettle of fish. if he were mentally ill he wouldn't have stood trial, his lawyers would most certainly have gotten it postponed indefinately.

some strange replies though, are there really that many people on here who actually don't think he is a complete wrong'un? irregardless of the peado case, his other behaviour was nothing short of wrong.

So being mentally ill doesnt stop a trial it just needs medical evaluation as to the institiute to be sent to and to the motive. Thought you might know that law man :rolleyes:

[bigleeroy1]

what the fuck does this have to do with pro mma??

[Jamie Taylor]

I wonder who will be saying "RIP to Gary Glitter" or "But he was a great musician" when he dies! Will be very interesting!

Fuck off Ben. As if Gary Glitter had anywhere near MJ's talent as an artist.

What gary glitter songs can you honestly name ? Leader of the gang the only one ? Thought so.

Like it or not millions of people belived he was innocent and will be gutted to hear of his death, I'm personally not too bothered as I never knew or met the bloke but I am a fan of his music. I have no idea if he was a paedo or not and we will never know but for people to be comparing him to Gary Glitter is just fucking stupid.

[DetoxGuru.com]

i read a good article stating that those who new him knew he werent a paedo , he was just trying to relive the childhood he didnt have!

[Luke]

what the fuck does this have to do with pro mma??

Wacko Jacko was the reason why I, and many people started MMA. He truly is an MMA ledge...

... But seriously I agree with Jamie T. Plus, if he was a Paedo he'd be found out and be accused (which he wasn't accused) whereas Gary Glitter was. Don't even compare the two.

[bigleeroy1]

i heard he wanted to be melted down instead of cremated...... so they could make him into toys and kids could play with him for a change!!

[sol_dave]

guys watch that docu, "what really happened" completely opened my mind they speak to a lot of people including his manager at the time

not much doubt in my mind he did some horrible things


as for "he'd be found out" the $ speaks in American law. No need to mention OJ

[bigleeroy1]

o.j is a real legend!!

[ReD_mIst]

didn't have the typical upbringing that a typical middle aged man would have tho did he.

i bet most people would turn out slightly weird if they had a similar upbringing. it's easy to say you'd be fine when you've never expierenced something but how do u think you'd deal with having everything you do caught on camera from the age of 5/being abused everyday as a kid??

So agree that he is "weird", great, we are on the same page. He may have mitigating circumstances, but that does't provide explaination or excuse for his lifestyle.

[pie eater]

Now he is dead will Gary Glitter be made King?

[Luke]

Now he is dead will Gary Glitter be made King?

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j264/trajangp/jackson4.gif

[The Treatment]

Ok, if we are talking about it (on the wrong thread). Lets have a few things right:

Gary Glitter is hated because he showed no remorse for what he did and worse still, couldnt see what the issue was. He even went to another country where it was more accessable and acceptable - Filth.

Jackson - Music, awesome to a certain generation, including mine. Sad loss for the people that loved him.

My question - Yes he was aquitted but if you sat in a courtroom and admitted going to bed with children, but just for a cuddle because you missed your childhood - what would be the odds of you being aquitted?

Same evidence - different outcome, without doubt. Innocent until proven guilty but on what terms?

But it's done now!

[CraigA]

Jacko lived the American dream....born as a poor black boy and died as a rich white woman.

I dont think being $400 million in debt is considered being rich when you die :D

[tinerrz]

Jackson "what really happened" channel 4 docu can be found on pirate bay, changed my opinion when i watched it wont say which way :)

I just watched this and have to say i wasnt aware of a lot of the facts about jackson. Well worth a watch for anywone with a passing interest on jackson, his childhood, career or courtcase. :cool:

[nathanboyce]

all anyone should say about michael jackson is thankyou for everything he did for music the best ever no question. outsold everyone 1st black man on allowed on mtv {and dont post shit he turned white his mam and dad are both black so figure it out} biggest selling album and everyone who was alive in the 80s remembers were they were at the 1st time they say the thriller video. R.I.P

[tinerrz]

all anyone should say about michael jackson is thankyou for everything he did for music the best ever no question.

Best ever? :o OK so thriller sold more than owt else but that isnt really relevant with todays internet. Watch that doc. I had a similar if less ball sucking view as you but dude you gotta ask questions of the guys morals...

[SirFapsAlot]

All you people saying stuff like "So what if Michael slept with children, he still made great music etc etc"... You make me sick.

You don't see them ever talking about how good a caretaker Ian Huntley was!

[Stu]

All you people saying stuff like "So what if Michael slept with children, he still made great music etc etc"... You make me sick.

You don't see them ever talking about how good a caretaker Ian Huntley was!

Someone else here just returning from a routine visit to sikipedia haha

[Shaolin Exile]

I'm prepared to keep an open mind about Jackson's relationship with children but three things that I do know are:

1. It was strange how at his last trial he was also acquitted of supplying alcohol to minors when the evidence for that was quite strong

2. Paedophiles often use sob stories to try and excuse their behaviour and for those professionals who work with them the first step to working with such people is getting them to see themsleves as perpetrators rather victims; which is why even liberals believe that punishment must precede therapy,

3. There is no way I would have allowed Michael Jackson to babysit my grandson. Although he might have been innocent it is not a risk I would have been prepared to take

[tinerrz]

I'm prepared to keep an open mind about Jackson's relationship with children but three things that I do know are:

1. It was strange how at his last trial he was also acquitted of supplying alcohol to minors when the evidence for that was quite strong

2. Paedophiles often use sob stories to try and excuse their behaviour and for those professionals who work with them the first step to working with such people is getting them to see themsleves as perpetrators rather victims; which is why even liberals believe that punishment must precede therapy,

3. There is no way I would have allowed Michael Jackson to babysit my grandson. Although he might have been innocent it is not a risk I would have been prepared to take

Grandad who likes mma?

*shock*

:D :cool: :D

[Jak-TapouT-]

Grandad who likes mma?

*shock*

:D :cool: :D

Randy Couture?

[Luke]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byx8kt0O_mk&feature=channel

Dance to ze Thriller! Apparently Wacko Jacko is number 1 in the charts.

[BruceLeeMMAfighting.net]

3. There is no way I would have allowed Michael Jackson to babysit my grandson. Although he might have been innocent it is not a risk I would have been prepared to take

Well I think another factor that you have to consider is Michael Jackson's wealth makes him an easy target for parents who are seeking a big payday.

I could see some parents trying to push their kids on Michael so they can file a lawsuit and get a big settlement later. If you look at the Gavin case, the mom was quite crazy and IIRC had filed alot of lawsuits before and was always looking for ways to get rich quick.

Even if you didn't have some ulterior plan, there surely would be some trickle down of wealth by hanging out with a celebrity.

Also most of these kids have some kind of terminal illness or something (at least initially) and there supposed last wish is to hang out with Michael Jackson.

It's obviously still poor judgment on Michale's part for hanging out with kids but that's a separate matter from why any of these parents would let their kids hang out with Michael.