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[Mc6pack]

Dear Mr McFall

Your enquiry about forming a Governing Body for Mixed Martial Arts has been passed to me.

The Sports Councils have guidelines and criteria for recognition of a sport and governing body, which I attach. These are currently under review. For martial arts the Sports Councils would consider an application covering the activity and the governing body. The Sports Councils already recognise separate bodies for the likes of Judo, karate, taekwondo, etc.

You will note from the criteria that establishing a Governing Body for an activity, particularly one as diverse as MMA, would be a considerable undertaking. It may well be worth taking legal advice quite early on.

UK Sport remit is primarily focused on Olympic and Paralympic sport. Our dealings with non-Olympic sports are few and we do not have resources that we can devote to helping potential governing bodies to develop.

I hope you find the attached of help.

Yours sincerely
Peter Smith

[Mc6pack]

Attatched document :-

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UK Sport and Home Country Sports Councils’ Process for the Recognition of Sporting Activities and Governing Bodies of Sport
INTRODUCTION
Recognition is a process, agreed jointly by the Home Country Sports Councils and UK Sport, to determine, for the Sports Councils, what is a sporting activity and to establish which organisations govern the sporting activity on a Home Country and UK basis.
The recognition policy and processes have been revised to ensure their relevance to sport in the 21st Century.

The recognition process operates in two parts:

1: Recognition of a sporting activity – this must be agreed across the four Home Country Sports Councils in the UK;

2: Recognition of the governing body for the sport. This recognition can be at two levels:

Recognition of a governing body for the sport at a UK or GB level, which will be considered by all the Sports Councils in the UK*;

Recognition of a governing body for the sport within England, Northern Ireland/Ulster, Scotland or Wales, which will be considered by the relevant Sports Council for that country.

* It should be noted that recognition of a UK body does not automatically mean that any Home Country Branch of that body will be recognised by the Home County Sports Council - an application will have to be made by the Home Country governing body to the relevant Sports Council.

General Principles

The principles behind recognition are as follows:

The Sports Councils are keen to promote the efficient administration of sport and therefore will endeavour to link new sporting activities to existing sporting activities where reasonable;

2. The Sports Councils have adopted the definition of sport contained in the Council of Europe’s European Sports Charter 1993 as one of the primary criteria*they use when assessing applications for recognising sporting activities. The UK is a member state of the Council of Europe and the European Sports Charter recommends that member states base their national sporting policies on the Charter. It also recommends that their national sporting organisations take account of the Charter’s principles when setting policy.

The Sports Councils will recognise ONE governing body per sport as the lead organisation for the governance, control and development of the sporting activity;

Where the Sports Councils currently recognise more than one governing body per sport, the Councils will pro-actively encourage amalgamation over the period to March 2009. From April 2009, the Sports Councils will normally only recognise one governing body per sport.

The recognition of a sporting activity or governing body of sport does not necessarily mean eligibility or entitlement to Sports Councils investment or services.

Recognition of a governing body does not mean that the Sports Councils have approved or accredited the quality of the governing body’s management or development programmes. Such issues will be taken into consideration as part of any investment process;

Whilst this process applies to all recognised sporting activities and governing bodies, the Sports Councils do not intend to undertake a review of every sporting activity or governing body currently included on the Sports Councils’ recognised list. However, individual activities and governing bodies will be reviewed where a need is identified.

8. The Sports Councils reserve the right to consult with any organisation or individual when assessing applications for recognition of sporting activities or governing bodies.

9. The Sports Councils reserve the right to review this process at any time.


For Further details on the recognition process including recognition criteria, please click on the links below or alternatively contact one of the Sports Councils.


UK Sport www.uksport.gov.uk
info@uksport.gov.uk
Tel: 020 7211 5100 40 Bernard Street
London WC1N 1ST

Sport England www.sportengland.org
info@sportengland.org
Tel: 0845 508508 3rd Floor
Victoria House
Bloomsbury Square
London WC1B 4SE

Sports Council for Northern Ireland www.sportni.net
info@sportni.net
Tel: 0280 381222 House of Sport
Upper Malone Road
Belfast BT9 5LA

Sport Scotland www.sportsscotland.org.uk
library@sportscotland.org.uk
Tel: 0131 317200 Caledonia House
South Gyle
Edinburgh
EH12 9DQ
Sports Council Wales www.sports-council-wales.co.uk
publicity@scw.co.uk
Tel: 02920 338200 Sophia Gardens
Cardiff
CF11 9SW

[Mc6pack]

A. GUIDELINES ON THE RECOGNITION OF A SPORTING ACTIVITY


1. How does an organisation in the UK apply to the Sports Councils for the recognition of a sporting activity?

An organisation applying for recognition of a sporting activity should initially contact the Sports Council of the country in which it is based to check the current list of recognised sporting activities, discuss the proposed application and request an application form.

The completed application form, together with the required supporting documentation, should be returned to the same Sports Council for assessment. All applicants are strongly advised to seek clarification from Sport Council Officers when completing their application form.

Assessment meetings are normally held twice per year, usually in July and in January. Application forms must be returned to the relevant Sports Council at least 3 months prior to the assessment meeting, to ensure inclusion in that particular assessment meeting:


Submission Date to Sports Council Assessment Meeting
31st March July
30th September January

2. What is the assessment process?

An Officer from the relevant Sports Council will make an initial assessment of the application, using the assessment criteria outlined below. If any clarification or additional information is required, the Officer will contact the applicant.

The application, together with the initial assessment, will be considered by the Joint Sports Councils’ Panel on Recognition. Normally, one of the following recommendations will be made:

· Recognition of the sporting activity;
· Recognition of the activity as a discipline within an already recognised sporting activity
· Refusal of recognition
· Deferment of a decision

The Panel may decide to invite representatives of the applicant organisation to attend the meeting at which the application is considered.

The Panel’s recommendation is then presented to each of the four Home Country Sports Councils for decision. Depending on the schedule of Sports Council meetings, this process may take up to three months. All four Home Country Sports Councils must agree to recognise a sporting activity if the application is to be successful.

The Sports Council that received the application will inform the applicant of the outcome.



3. What assessment criteria do the Sports Councils use?
The Sports Councils assessment of sporting activity applications is based on the following criteria. A successful application will be expected to fulfil all these criteria.
Essential Purpose
The purpose of the activity must be sporting and not a means to another purpose.
The Council of Europe’s European Sports Charter 1993 definition of sport
The sporting activity must meet the definition of sport contained in the Council of Europe’s European Sports Charter 1993, which is:

“Sport means all forms of physical activity which, through casual or organised participation aim at expressing or improving physical fitness and mental well-being forming social relationships or obtaining results in competition at all levels.”
Rules and Organisation
The sporting activity must have an established structure, defined by rules, and where appropriate, organised national or international competition.
Uniqueness
The sporting activity must be physically or culturally unique, and not a variation of an already recognised sport. Where an activity is similar or closely aligned to a sporting activity that is already recognised, the Sports Councils reserve the right to consult with the body that manages that sporting activity.
Sustainability
The sporting activity must demonstrate that it is here to stay, through levels of sustained participation or a relationship to significant international participation.
Risk
The Sports Councils reserve the right to defer an application for recognition of a sporting activity until its is made in conjunction with a governing body application, where a sporting activity involves a level of risk requiring management by a suitably positioned National Governing Body.
Other Considerations
Political, moral, ethical and legal considerations will be taken into account when assessing the application for recognition of a sporting activity. A sport must also demonstrate that there are no barriers to participation that could be viewed as creating inequity of access.


4. Is Recognition of a sporting activity awarded for a limited period of time?

There is no specified time limit on the recognition of a sporting activity. However, the Sports Councils reserve the right to review any activity they recognise (e.g. if a change in the law affected the legality of the sporting activity). Such a review would include extensive consultation with those involved with the sport. The outcome of a review would either be continued recognition or de-recognition of a sporting activity.



5. If an organisation’s application for recognition of a sporting activity is unsuccessful, can it re-apply?

Yes, the organisation can re-apply, although the Sports Councils will not normally consider a new application for a period of two years from the date of the decision.


6. Is there an Appeals Procedure?

If an applicant wishes to appeal against a decision, it should contact the Sports Council to whom it applied for recognition of its sporting activity. Appeals regarding the recognition of a sporting activity will normally be decided by the UK Chief Officers Group, who will inform the Sports Council of the decision.

[Mc6pack]

B. GUIDELINES ON THE RECOGNITION OF A GB/UK NATIONAL GOVERNING BODY


1. What geographical area does a UK/GB governing body have to cover?

A governing body claiming jurisdiction over the UK/GB should be able to evidence:

That it represents the sport across the UK/GB, and its recognition as the UK body is supported by the representative groups in:

a. England, Scotland and Wales for a governing body claiming to cover Great Britain; and
b. England, Scotland and Wales and Northern Ireland for a governing body claiming to cover the United Kingdom.

That the representative groupings in the Home Countries have an agreed voice within the UK/GB structure.


2. How does a UK/GB governing body apply for recognition?

A UK/GB governing body applying for recognition should initially contact the Sports Council of the country in which it is based, to discuss the proposed application and request an application form.

The completed application form, together with the required supporting documentation should be returned to the same Sports Council for assessment. All applicants are strongly advised to seek clarification from Sport Council Officers when completing their application form.

Assessment meetings are held twice per year, normally in July and January. Application forms must be returned to the relevant Sports Council at least 3 months prior to the assessment meeting:


Submission Date to Sports Council Assessment Meeting
31st March July
30th September January


3. What is the assessment process?

An Officer from the Sports Council receiving the application will make an initial assessment of the application using the assessment criteria outlined below. If any clarification or additional information is required, the Officer will contact the applicant governing body.

The application, together with the initial assessment, will be considered by the Joint Sports Councils’ Officers Panel on Recognition. Normally, one of the following recommendations will be made:

· Unconditional offer of recognition status;
· Conditional offer of recognition status with a time-limited period to rectify any areas that were below acceptable level;
· Refusal of recognition status.

The Panel may decide to invite representatives of the governing body to attend the meeting at which the application is considered.

The Panel’s recommendation is presented to each of the Sports Councils (with the exception of the Sports Council for Northern Ireland in the case of GB governing bodies) for decision. Depending on the schedule of Sports Council meetings, this process may take up to three months. Each of the Sports Councils must agree to recognise a governing body for the application to be successful.

The Sports Council that received the application will inform the applicant of the outcome.


4. What assessment criteria do the Sports Councils use?
The assessment of governing body applications is based on the following criteria. A successful application will be expected to fulfil all these criteria.
Recognised Sporting Activity
The sporting activity, which the governing body is claiming to govern, must already be included on the recognised sporting activity list.
Uniqueness
There is no other governing body (recognised or unrecognised) that could better govern and develop the sport.
UK/GB Wide Support
The governing body can demonstrate support from representative groups in England, Scotland, Wales and (for UK governing bodies) Northern Ireland.
Sustainability
The governing body has been established for a minimum of two years and can demonstrate this by forwarding a copy of its signed constitution and its Annual General Meeting minutes and accounts for the preceding two years.
International Affiliation
The governing body can demonstrate it is affiliated or is in the process of affiliating to the International governing body for the sport (as appropriate to the sport).
Governance Structure
An appropriate constitution and statement on anti doping, child protection and equity are in place and have been formally adopted by the governing body.
Membership and Participation
The governing body seeking recognition has demonstrated significant membership in terms of affiliated membership, club structures, participation, etc.
Influence and Control
The governing body can demonstrate that it has reasonable influence in the context of the sport controlled, e.g. in terms of governing the rules of the sporting activity within the jurisdiction, the training and education of coaches and officials.

[Mc6pack]

5. Is governing body recognition awarded for a limited period of time?

There is no time limit on the recognition of a governing body. However, the Sports Councils have the right to review the recognition of a governing body in its jurisdiction if there are concerns that the organisation is no longer meeting the recognition criteria, if the status of the governing body or the sporting activity which it governs changes significantly, or another body claims to govern the sport.


6. If a governing body’s recognition status if reviewed, what process does it entail?

For governing bodies that are in receipt of Sports Council funding, the review process will normally be integrated within Sports Councils’ ongoing governing body audit process.

For a recognised governing body that is not involved in the audit process, the review will involve re-visiting the initial recognition application form (if this exists) or completing a new application form.

The Sports Council undertaking the review will present an assessment report for consideration to the UK Sports Councils Panel on Recognition. The Panel may decide to invite representatives of the governing body to attend the meeting.

The Group will make one of the following recommendations:

Unconditional re-endorsement of the governing body’s recognition status;
Conditional re-endorsement of the governing boy’s recognition status with a time-limited period to rectify any areas that were below acceptable level, but within the context of achieving an acceptable standard overall;
Withdrawal of recognition status.

The Panel’s recommendation is put forward to each of the Sports Councils for decision and the relevant Sports Council advises the applicant body of its decision.


7. What happens if two governing bodies are seeking Sports Council recognition as the governing body for the same sport?

If one of the governing bodies is already recognised by the Sports Councils, the relevant Sports Council will inform that body that a review process is to be instigated due to an application being made by a second organisation.

Both governing bodies will be invited to complete and forward an application form, together with the required supporting information to the relevant Sports Council for assessment. If audit information is available, this will be taken into account.

An Officer from the relevant Sports Council will make an initial assessment of both governing bodies using the assessment criteria. If any clarification or additional information is required, the Officer will contact the relevant governing body.

The two applications, together with the initial assessment report, will be considered by the Joint Sports Councils’ Officer Panel on Recognition. The Panel may decide to invite representatives from one or both governing bodies to attend the meeting at which the application is considered. The Group will normally make one of the following recommendations:

Reject the unrecognised body’s application and award unconditional or conditional endorsement of the currently recognised governing body’s recognition status;
Withdraw recognition from the currently recognised governing body and award unconditional or conditional recognition status to the second body;
If both bodies are currently unrecognised to award conditional or unconditional recognition to one body and reject the application made by the other body;
Withhold recognition status from both bodies on the basis that neither body has sufficiently demonstrated that it meets the recognition criteria, or that neither body has demonstrated that it is significantly better placed to represent the interests of the sport than the other.

The Panel’s recommendation is presented to each of the Sports Councils for decision, and to UK Sport for final endorsement of the decision. All five Sports Councils must agree to recognise the GB/UK governing body if the application is to be successful The relevant Sports Council advises both governing bodies of the decision.


8. Can the Sports Councils withdraw recognition from a governing body?

Yes the Councils can withdraw recognition. Some of the circumstances where recognition can be withdrawn are listed below, although this list is not exhaustive:

· The activity is no longer recognised;
· The governing body is dissolved;
· The governing body fails to demonstrate it is meeting the recognition criteria;
· The governing body fails to supply the requested supporting material to demonstrate that it meets the recognition criteria;
· Recognition has been conferred on another governing body that has demonstrated it is the best-placed agency to develop and manage the sport.


9. If a governing body application for recognition is unsuccessful, can it re-apply?

Yes, the governing body can re-apply, although the Sports Councils will not normally consider a new application for a period of one year from the date of the decision.

In cases where two governing bodies have applied for recognition as the governing body for the same sport, within the same jurisdiction, the body(ies) that has (have) not been awarded recognition cannot normally re-apply for a period of three years.

The Sports Councils would encourage governing bodies that are “competing” to govern a sport within the same jurisdiction to work together to adopt a unified approach.


10. Is there an Appeals Procedure?

If a Governing Body wishes to appeal against a decision, it should contact the Sports Council to whom it applied for recognition. Appeals regarding the recognition of a UK/GB governing body will be considered by the UK Chief Officers Group and presented to the UK Sport Board for decision.

[Leigh]

Good stuff mate, will have a read at work tomorrow and see what potential problems stick out. Suggest others do the same

[Russ L]

4. What assessment criteria do the Sports Councils use?

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Sustainability
The governing body has been established for a minimum of two years and can demonstrate this by forwarding a copy of its signed constitution and its Annual General Meeting minutes and accounts for the preceding two years.

International Affiliation
The governing body can demonstrate it is affiliated or is in the process of affiliating to the International governing body for the sport (as appropriate to the sport).


I don't want to be negative, but these two things would immediately appear to scream out as problems if you really are after recognition from UK Sport any time soon.

[Mc6pack]

I don't want to be negative, but these two things would immediately appear to scream out as problems if you really are after recognition from UK Sport any time soon.

something for the future, it basically means that its gonna take 2 years for the government to recognise the committee regardless of "when" it is put in place.. it will still take 2 years if its put in place 10 years from now. It's not a problem, just a process.

[Leigh]

Their recommendation on seeking legal advice is a good idea - that would be costly though

[Mc6pack]

Their recommendation on seeking legal advice is a good idea - that would be costly though

It may not be too bad if were going the non-profit org route, as there is free legal advice offered by the government and other organisations, its just a case of finding it, but i know its there lol.

[Viper]

Would this governing body have to have the rules etc set out before applying for recognition, if so what organisations are going to agree to sign up to the body as each promotion in this country all seem to have their own rules set which they have adapted from the UFC rules.

Seems that before any of this can go in front of a council for acceptance there would have to be adherance to the rules set out by the proposed governing body and herein lies another problem... some promotions out there have in the past burned their bridges with each other at some point

Not only would you have to convince the sports council that it is a good idea, but you would have to get promotions to agree to work together.

Good work finding out the requirements though and thanks for posting them up, shows clearly what the sport faces if it does decide to go for a governing body.

[Kellerman]

When the UFC do shows over here do they adhere to there own rules or the NSAC?

[Viper]

NSAC which is the rules kind of adopted by most shows here, each with their own little twist

[ReD_mIst]

The UFC uses the Unified Rules

[U.M.A.]

If you are serious, then you need to start now, form your own NGB, it does not have to be sanctioned by any Sporting Body, but of course in time if it were etc, then of course it would be the pinnacle of recognition etc., and the funding helps too.

Here's my two penneth for what its worth:

You guys need:

National Governing Body (Form a Limited Company)
Board of Directors: for example:

Chairman
Vice/Deputy Chairman
Finance Director
Administration Director
Technical Director
Marketing Director
Media and PR Director
Child Protection Officer
Coaching Director
National Squad Coach
Referee and Judges Director

Bank Account
Accountant
Solicitor

Constitution
Articles of Association
Memorandum of Association

Child Protection Policy
Health and Safety Policy
Risk Assessment Policy
Whistle Blowing Policy
Code of Conduct Policy
Disciplinary Code and Policy
Coaching Guidelines and Policy
Training Guidelines for both Children and Adults, abled and disabled
Equity Policy
Data Protection Policy

Contest Rules and Regulations for Kids, Adults and the Disabled, such as Non Striking Contact, Light Striking Contact, Semi Contact, with different rules sets etc, to attract everyone, not just the 18+ Fighters and Players etc.

Kids MMA Programme
Disabled Persons MMA Programmes
Non Competitive MMA Programme
Female MMA Programme
Amateur MMA Programme
Semi Pro MMA Programme
Professional MMA Programme

Insurance: Public, Employers, Products Liability Policies etc, and Personal Accident Cover for Coach's, Instructors, Volunteers and Students.

Media Exposure, Public Relations and Marketing:
Forums
Website
Martial Arts Magazines
Television
Emails and Databases
Sponsorship
Membership growth
Events
Help the less fortunate and less abled and allow them access to training etc.
Working with Authorities and Law Enforcement and other Agencies etc.

Make contact with Local Authorities, Colleges, Universities and Schools, explain who and what you are doing, why not even try and get MMA classes in the Colleges and Schools etc, you have to start somewhere...

Funding:
Affiliation and Membership: Individual and or at Club or Association Level (to be decided), UK, Europe and Worldwide.
Annual Joining/Registration Fees for NGB Membership and Renewals
Regional and National Championships and Tournaments
Squad Training Sessions
Seminars and Training Sessions
Coaching Courses
Referee and Judges Courses
Hire of Officials, Referee's and Judges for Events to Members and non Members
First Aid Courses
Training Equipment and Kit Supply


Sponsorship:
Martial Arts Magazines
Equipments Suppliers
Business
Championship Events
Seminars
Photographers
Media
Event Advertising

Membership to other World Bodies with similar aims and objectives.

These are a few that I can think of, no doubt there are more to add etc.

So if your gonna do it, then get started now...

Start by trying to get all the Industry Players, Movers and Contacts and the money men etc, to a meeting to discuss and start a NGB for MMA here in the UK.

Good luck, you guys could be the future NGB of MMA here in the UK one day.

But be prepared, it will be a long haul, but it will be worth it in the end.

[TheInsuranceMan]

Insurance: Public, Employers, Products Liability Policies etc, and Personal Accident Cover for Coach's, Instructors, Volunteers and Students.


This I can provide. I've just written the first dedicated MMA gym policy in the UK this week. I have an insurer (well, 99% of the way there) willing to write a scheme for me to insure all MMA gyms correctly, rather than under single discipline policies which will rarely, if ever, pay out for an MMA related incident. It's taken me three years to get to this point, so I am confident it will get the go-ahead.

Once I have the 100% ok from the insurer to start the scheme officially, then I'll be in touch with moderators on this, and a few more MMA sites to make my details available.

In the meantime, if anyone is looking for a commercial policy for an MMA training centre, please feel free to PM me.

Thanks.

[BenA]

alot of good posts in this thread
I am no expert or legal guru so i will just propose my thoughts
perhaps it would be best to start an un-official governing body first, build support from events and fighters and see how it works. get a website set up and spread the word of what you are trying to achieve through forums like this.
start getting events to actively display that they are in support of your UK MMA governing body, get clubs to inform their fighters of it and get the clubs to sign in to it. get fighters demanding shows that adhere to the rules ect. set out by the body.
Then when enough people recognise this un-official body you can work on getting it made official.

that is just a very brief outline of my thoughts, they do go into futher details but i wish to judge the reaction first. I think you also have to consider what a mammoth undertaking this is. It is like starting you own business, there are a lot of things that you will need to research and adhere to, probably a lot of costs and most of all a massive time commitment.
I am all for a regulated UK governing body for MMA and am happy to help out in any way i can.

[boxingbrit]

Interesting. Nice to see how much work is already being done. It does look costly even if the governing body is non profit and gets free legal advice.

[Flame]

Sorry if this is a random question, Can disabled people fight ? Are we talking physical or mental disability ? Its always been on my mind can a person with mild autism like Asperger's Syndrome fight if they are capable and know what they are doing,

[BenA]

as long as a doctor cleared them i can't see why people with mental disorders can't fight. However people with disabilities may be a different story. I think it would be very difficult for people without a fully functioning body to fight, even against other disabled people. without trying to be insensitive it could also give the sport an even worse image (as if brutal cage fighting isn't bad enough) as a freak show who bait midgets into fighting each other (jerry springer...) or have people hoping around the ring trying to get a takedown. I just dont think physically disabled people and combat sports are a good mixture, you rarely see disabled people takepart in combat sports and i think theres a reason for that.
That being said when i was playing rugby there was a guy from another club with one arm but he was one of the best players i've seen. he was competing with able bodied people and well

[Mad Dog]

On the disabled issue my fighters went to a grappling comp in Wiltshire and one of the best gusy there had no hands.. he was awesome!

ON the GB side it might be a way forward to regionalise first, NE/NW/ML/SE/SW/Lon, as there seem to be well established promoters in each area, and then for each of those areas to work on a framework to create the GB..?

[d0ugbug]

This I can provide. I've just written the first dedicated MMA gym policy in the UK this week. I have an insurer (well, 99% of the way there) willing to write a scheme for me to insure all MMA gyms correctly, rather than under single discipline policies which will rarely, if ever, pay out for an MMA related incident. It's taken me three years to get to this point, so I am confident it will get the go-ahead.

Once I have the 100% ok from the insurer to start the scheme officially, then I'll be in touch with moderators on this, and a few more MMA sites to make my details available.

In the meantime, if anyone is looking for a commercial policy for an MMA training centre, please feel free to PM me.

Thanks.

You can get a Mixed Martial Arts insurance policy for gyms, clubs and members already. Which covers injury and accidents while training in MMA and no its not just a single discipline policy which has all the arts listed individually.

On the note of getting a governing body off the ground not only along the lines of having all the directors and polices in place as listed previously but you would have to get a group of 10-20 people who would want to work on this and then have everyone VOTE for the positions available within the org. Even then after YOU have done all the leg work id give it 6 months before you hack someone off and they leave and form their own system skipping all the mistakes you have made along the way and be formed in half the time leaving you in the dark.

Unless you have a dedicated team who can meet from all four corners of the UK (and more) AND be prepared to work on this for no money or financial gain then its going to be a good few years before anything comes to light sadly

[boxingbrit]

You can get a Mixed Martial Arts insurance policy for gyms, clubs and members already. Which covers injury and accidents while training in MMA and no its not just a single discipline policy which has all the arts listed individually.

Who does this policy? Cheers:)

[d0ugbug]

TL Risk Solutions

[boxingbrit]

You got any contact details for them?

[d0ugbug]

http://www.tlrisksolutions.co.uk/

0845 671 8007

You want to ask them about Martial Guard tell them what you do etc. Mine covers me for Kickboxing and MMA (as I used to run a MMA class at another venue aside from kickboxing)

I pay something like £700 p.a it covers me for my 300 students and I have a personal instructor liability as well as public with them. I take out additional tournament cover with them when I need it which goes from £24-40 depending on how much cover you want 1-3-5 or 10mil I think it goes

You can take out extra cover for your Pro Fighters but I tend to do that trough Kuma works out £17 per month.

I got 10 of my more active students covered for worldwide travel and accident for competing outside of the UK. I can also tie in other clubs and instructors on my policy if needed or if one of mine wanted to open up under me etc

Hope that helps

[boxingbrit]

Sounds good. i will give them a call:)

[d0ugbug]

If you send them the rules you use in advance as well they may do cover for shows! All depends on the rules you use though, at least thats what I got told when I spoke to them some time ago

[CraigSt.Clair]

I can probably help with things like a constitution and getting the group to a point where they can get funding, I work for a charity doing that sort of thing :)