going upside down to stop the guard pass

[david5]

i've talked about this before and how i use the upside down guard mainly as a transitional position to stop my guard being passed. i couldnt find the thread i was talking about it on, but i found a video that illustrates what i was talking about very well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq4uGZvsPXw&feature=player_embedded

check out bjorns other vids too, they're very good

[ddale]

I know its only flow drilling but I'm just wondering what's stopping the opponent from dropping to north south when the chap in blue is upside down?

[piratebrido]

I know its only flow drilling but I'm just wondering what's stopping the opponent from dropping to north south when the chap in blue is upside down?

Anytime i've tried they can spin back to full guard easily. I weight over 100kg's as well! You can't get good upper body control before they spin off. I just back off these day's to avoid the triangle.

[David Butlin]

Thats pretty much how I was taught. I think its potentially very dangerous in MMA if you put a foot wrong.

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[AVI4]

Started using this a few months ago and i find its really effective with guys who just try to stuff past your guard and stack you, also the triangle is there quite a lot.

[NeilD]

would you not be rather open to attacking the feet?

[Simon Hayes]

I like to kneel on peoples faces when they play upside down guard and attack with a figure four footlock,but it's
a great transitional position if they don't stop there too long.

[piratebrido]

would you not be rather open to attacking the feet?

In what way. Anyone who has done it to me keep their knees tight to their chest so I can't think of any? I'm not great with the position though, so if you can't think of anything out with it! Will improve my game. ;)

**edit** Simon has responded above. Jerk-Jitsu for the win!

[SDR]

Forehead on their stomach from north south = the counter to this.

Check out Ryan Halls videos for how effective inverted guard can be though.

[mainsy]

I like to kneel on peoples faces when they play upside down guard and attack with a figure four footlock,but it's
a great transitional position if they don't stop there too long.

You did that to me!! Think I had to unwind myself to normal guard to stop my foot falling off

[stinkyrich]

Nice video, that guy is really fluid in his movement. Effortless BJJ looks amazing.

(Fuckin hate rolling against people who move like that though!!)

[Stalkachu]

I was just flicking through some more of Bjorn's videos, and came across this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0wFBz-rFQg&feature=channel

...what I found kinda funny was in the comments, there's a guy saying that the guy's sitting in a way that looks like 'twister side mount in reverse'.

Oh how times have changed. @_@

Take care,

Stalks

[Hywel Teague]

I like to kneel on peoples faces when they play upside down guard and attack with a figure four footlock,but it's
a great transitional position if they don't stop there too long.
and I thought jiu-jitsu was the 'gentle' art

[Simon Hayes]

:) not at Carlsons

[rjd]

we get to use this alot at Roleta's for some reason lol

[Brawler4lifee]

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[Xanthic]

Forehead on their stomach from north south = the counter to this.


Forehead on the stomach is an invitation for them to take your back!

[SDR]

Works fine for me after seeing Fowler recommend it!

[Rob T]

Forehead on the stomach is an invitation for them to take your back!

You should be ok with forehead on the stomach cos you can use it to control their hips. Unless they are mega flexible.

[Iconoclast]

i've talked about this before and how i use the upside down guard mainly as a transitional position to stop my guard being passed. i couldnt find the thread i was talking about it on, but i found a video that illustrates what i was talking about very well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq4uGZvsPXw&feature=player_embedded

check out bjorns other vids too, they're very good

That video has a well padded wall. Good to see!!

[david5]

That video has a well padded wall. Good to see!!

lol, i train in a squash court with some mats down. we even have that lip on the back wall at about 2 feet high for extra danger :D

[Simon Hayes]

for you squash court fighters!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlleDPgmDVM&feature=related

[david5]

lol, if only my squash court was that nice!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6MkqEQd-4c

[david5]

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/5917/upsidedownguard.jpg

[Maccavelli]

:) not at Carlsons

I love it.

At our gym we have been finding that the 4 or 5 guys that play this a lot are all picking up jacked necks and upper back pain. I think mainsy picked up the same thing when he was playing his ridiculo guard.

Should be alright so long as you dont hang out in it too long.

[NeilD]

You should be ok with forehead on the stomach cos you can use it to control their hips. Unless they are mega flexible.

Even still, with that control and a turn of the hips you can normally prevent it

[judostu]

I only roll with one guy that uses inverted guard effectively and I find it hard not to dive in and end up having to work hard to defend a triangle/omopolata. For some reason when the guy is upside down I suddenly forget the two arms in/out rule.