Weights and pads on the same day

[paddylast]

I've been on holidays from work for a couple weeks
Was doing some weight and conditioning in the morning.
On the evenings I was doing sparring and grappling it did not affect me.

On the evenings I was doing pads though I found that it slowed me right down, punches especially, and I seemed to sweat more and basically be more lethargic and unable to work with the same intensity.

Anyone have any advice on how this can be avoided?
Does anyone else do weights and pads on the same day and feel this?


Also, just started training a couple times a day, different routine to what i'm used to. Is there any advice someone may be able to give to help me adjust to this routine as I know if I approach it wrong i'd probably be better off only training once a day.

[OHarra]

Would suggest that if training twice in one day, have one hard session and one easier more technical session.

So would probably run in the morning and do pads and sparring in the night. Then do weights in the morning and technical training at night.

That's what I would do.

[DanCrase]

I know it may not be an option with you working and your club times, but I generally find it works best to do your technical/ sparring/ pads before weights and cardio in the day

...if you can't change the pattern, then make sure you get atleast 4 hours inbetween weight/ pad sessions and 2 feedings

[ocuana]

I don't wish to patronise your eating but stuffing in some heavy carbs 4 hours before pads may just seal the deal. I was doing moderately heavy weight training at 7am, then pad training at 7pm three days a week. the other three days of fight training were not weights at all. I got through it only by eating like an animal.

[paddylast]

Cheers for the info.

Yeah I think it was not getting enough carbs in the diet was why I was so tired.

Yesterday for example I trained in the morning, weights and bagwork. Home, dinner, rice and chicken. That was about twelve. Back for training at six, before I went I had two bananas and two nut bars. First 40 minutes went fine and then I just had this complete energy dump and I could hardly stand up. I rested for about twenty minutes and then rejoined the class at a much lower intensity.
So I guess that sounds like I just burned up all the carbs and ran out of energy?
Cheers again

[paddylast]

After a few days of adequate carb intake the change is great. I feel 100% better in training.
That near death feeling after a session passes much more quickly, I feel stronger and what has been the biggest improvement is in my flexibility.

Always before I'd half to stretch for at least a half and hour to be able to throw kicks properly and often the muscles would tighten up straight away as soon as I got in any way cold.
Now the stretching comes much more easily and I stay flexible for the session.
It was never obvious to me before but now I see that with a full supply of glycogen in the muscles and a good reserve of energy the muscle works much better.

My main concern now is my weight gain. I usually do weights twice a week. I guess if I continue to do this and eat lots of carbs I will gain weight, which is not exactly what i'm after, more just strength. Strength for grappling and explosive fast twitch strength for punches, kicks etc.
Can anyone lend me their insight there?

I"m delighted that I understand better the mechanics of the body now a little bit, carbs=energy=better muscle preformance=flexibility+strength+faster recovery.
I was always aware of the need for adequate carbs but never thought it would apply to me or never realized my lack of them. But now I know so all good.
Cheers again.