IBJJF No GI uniform

[wagon]

http://www.ibjjf.org/nogiuniform.htm

stolen from EFN forum!!!!

[Iconoclast]

They're colour coding the rashguards to chime with the belt colour/grades.

Has this always been the case?

[Sir Tapsalot]

Yep they've always done that, though last year I believe they provided the rashguards for free (well as free as a £50 comp could ever be!!).

[Simon Hayes]

I think it is a cynical money making scheme.How long before 'official' uniform stockists are announced.

Some people have made comments that the sport needs to present a professional image.I completely disagree.For me No Gi BJJ or Submission Grappling (whatever you want to call it) is all about individuality,you shouldn't be tied to a uniform.No Gi has more in common with Surfing (which is where the clothes we wear when we fight evolve from).Board Shorts and Rash Guards are surfing gear.I feel the whole No Gi competition
scene should be moving towards a more "X GAMES" vibe than an "Olympic Vibe" and that kind of look will attract major sponsors and T.V. deals quicker than all the athletes looking more like Olympic Wrestlers or gymnasts.

How ridiculous would it be to see skateboarders or BMX Vert riders wearing colour coded uniforms,well thats how i feel wearing Uniforms for No Gi grappling will look.

The sport should look colourful and individual as it does now,trying to make it fit some old fashioned preconceived athletic look will age it considerably immediately and make it harder to market.

Jesus,people who don't understand grappling have a hard enough time acccepting it as a spectator sport in the first place,it'll be even worse if all the colour and character is banned.

My opinion.

[marc goddard]

Great post. As per.

[kungfukris]

i may have missed the point, but doesnt this isolate purely no gi guys who might not have belts or grades from competing in the competitions? in other no gi comps they do it by belts or experience/years training etc. i know plenty of people without bjj belts that would easily hold their own in a purple or brown belt division (maybe even black in some cases) that are still technically whitebelts! but then that may be deliberate i guess!?

[Sir Tapsalot]

i may have missed the point, but doesnt this isolate purely no gi guys who might not have belts or grades from competing in the competitions? in other no gi comps they do it by belts or experience/years training etc. i know plenty of people without bjj belts that would easily hold their own in a purple or brown belt division (maybe even black in some cases) that are still technically whitebelts! but then that may be deliberate i guess!?

It's not a sub grappling comp - it's a BJJ comp without the gi, hence it uses BJJ grading rather then the novice/intermediate/advanced system

[Iconoclast]

But isn't No Gi BJJ just submission grappling by another name?

[Simon Hayes]

Yes it is,but the point Sir Taps is making is that if the competition is
divided into BJJ Belt grades it is really a 'No Gi' BJJ Comp,whereas if there were no belt divisions it could be called 'Submission Grappling',
but the techniques and strategies are all the same.The IBJJF No-Gi BJJ Worlds use BJJ Rules though and Submission Grappling Comps usually use ADCC rules or their own set of rules.

Confusing?

[Iconoclast]

I loathe this kind of thing. Tinkering when there's no need.

The addition of a Gi is what makes BJJ what it is. The Gi is what makes it different and unique.

Calling it No Gi BJJ is very silly in my opinion. Why can't they let BJJ be BJJ and let Submission Grappling be just that?

The unstructured and relaxed nature of No Gi grappling is what makes it what it is.

Load o' bollox IMO!

[kungfukris]

Just think that by doing that they are creating an atmosphere similar to the traditional, inward facing martial arts community of the late 80's early 90's. That kind of, "you must wear this equipment, from this supplier, and have all the right uniform etc..." It also limits people from outside the bjj community from entering, which again is typical of the traditional MA community!

[dave coles]

http://www.budovideos.com/images/covers/30612.jpg

"Now you can show your rank in your no-gi grappling classes. These top quality shorts are available in the following colors:

Black with white belt
Black with blue belt
Black with purple belt
Black with brown belt
White with black belt"

;)

[Sengoku]

Just think that by doing that they are creating an atmosphere similar to the traditional, inward facing martial arts community of the late 80's early 90's. That kind of, "you must wear this equipment, from this supplier, and have all the right uniform etc..." It also limits people from outside the bjj community from entering, which again is typical of the traditional MA community!

not really! if the entrance fee is $100 then you must have money for a $35 rash guard

and they are not asking you to buy their shorts either.....just that they be plain black

[kungfukris]

maybe im just to idealistic and like to think that its about the skill and not the grades or what you wear. i like the idea that you could rock up in a pair of running shorts or speedos and just grapple, but im just a bit of a hippy like that i guess!

[marc goddard]

you know i would love to have been graded "no gi" - imagine fighting wearing them white shorts with your belt colour ? cool as fuck ! it is luta livre who do this right ?

sometimes i really am jealous of this whole bjj thing and wish i had time to devote to it, gi also - i think there is a real sense of kudos and achievement with bjj belts. [ leaving all the politics and bullshit aside, along with some bjj guys who think they are mma experts without ever have been taken down properly least of all even jabbed ! ]

is it true you will progress your grade quicker by competing ? does it have to be in he gi also ? you see, i won a lot as a submission grappler but that would not count towards bjj level /grade ? even though i spent so much time training with bjj guys / no gi.

seriously there is some major kudos, and deservadley so for guys attaining high grades in bjj, it is a notorious and a long road to the top for black belts.

[Rob T]

is it true you will progress your grade quicker by competing ? does it have to be in he gi also ? you see, i won a lot as a submission grappler but that would not count towards bjj level /grade ? even though i spent so much time training with bjj guys / no gi.

People who compete and win tend to get promoted quicker... but they are, by definition, the people who do get better and learn quicker.

End of the day though, it's all down to each instructor and whatever they feel like doing.

[kungfukris]

even though i dont think grades are necessary or especially relevant, i would love to get graded, but not enough to devote myself to the gi, which i personally dont like!
i also feel that whenever grades come into thing so does politics and unfortunately human nature rarely allows for just and fair grading systems imo!
im suprised people havent started grading more without the gi, tenth planet do it and it seems to translate ok, but then im sure there are those that have there issues with this system.

[huffy]

About as ridiclous as Ricky-oh!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vMKN1tYknE