View Full Version : Terry Etim's next fight announced!!
Jim_Williams
07-09-2009, 04:19 PM
http://www.fightersonlymagazine.co.uk/news/viewarticle.php?id=3044
He is fighting Shannon Gugerty.
Wish it was a bit more well known oppenent, but WARR TERRY!!
A shame indeed! Terry will smash it as usual, but I was hoping he'd get a big step up in competition this time. Oh well, good things come to those who wait and he's still got years ahead of him! Good luck!
Jim_Williams
07-09-2009, 04:26 PM
After this fight, I think he should get the loser of Fisher/Stevenson, that'd be a good test for him.
Rob T
07-09-2009, 04:34 PM
I think it's better for him to keep at the lower level of UFC opponents for a while. How old is he? No need to rush at all.
Just be grateful he didn't get Al-Turked.
ShaolinSubz02
07-09-2009, 04:57 PM
Matt is a high standard submission fighter who favors the RNC I think, don't think Etim will have a problem as I believe his ground game to be superior, still he needs to be vigilant. He must treat this fight like all his others else he might get caught by this dude. Of cos I back Etim to win early but just saying
mack3333
07-09-2009, 05:24 PM
Wasn't this meant to be Jeff Lawson's UFC debut fight a while back?
No need to throw Terry in at the deep end yet, but a bigger name would've been nice.
iandean
07-09-2009, 05:27 PM
LOL at people moaning that it isn't a big name for Etim
I'm sure Terry is happy to fight this kinda guy.
Terry has improved about 100000% over the last two year and a long win streak would be great for him and for the scene
Why is it that UK fans expect our fights to go for top 5 guys straight away.
Etim ftw !
brawler4life
07-09-2009, 05:29 PM
good points ian dean but ill be honest im a bit gutted i was hoping he was gonna get some big fish which he deserves and is ready for was thinkin frankie edgar hes the only other fighter thats not got a fight scheduled
Valour5
07-09-2009, 05:44 PM
good points ian dean but ill be honest im a bit gutted i was hoping he was gonna get some big fish which he deserves and is ready for was thinkin frankie edgar hes the only other fighter thats not got a fight scheduled
I understand what Ians saying but it's hardly "straight away" imho. I agree i'd like to see him against better opposition (although re: Frankie Edgar - I am mindful that terry has been LnP'ed in the UFC before although I'm hoping his take down defence has improved to combat this)
brawler4life
07-09-2009, 05:47 PM
i just think he could keep frankie edgar at a distance with his thai boxing and try to either ko or get the decision but i c wht u mean but i reckon he has combatted it
anyway i just seen this shanon geurgurtys record hes subbed matt grice just like terry did and hes tapped dale hart (everyone does lol)
but he lost v spencer fisher but it was only a late replacement and he took him to the 3rd round so this might be harder than we first thought
mack3333
07-09-2009, 07:07 PM
LOL at people moaning that it isn't a big name for Etim
I'm sure Terry is happy to fight this kinda guy.
Terry has improved about 100000% over the last two year and a long win streak would be great for him and for the scene
Why is it that UK fans expect our fights to go for top 5 guys straight away.
Etim ftw !
What?
First of all, it's Terry's seventh UFC fight, so it's hardly "straight away."
Secondly, most people are only asking for a bigger name, not a "top 5 guy."
A bigger name is not too much to ask for at this point considering that Gugerty was meant to be Jeff Lawson's debut at UFC 95, and especially considering that Terry has improved "100000%".
James Wilks gets Matt Brown as a debut and Etim gets Gugerty for a seventh fight, after 3 good wins in a row?
Just doesn't seem right imo.
I would rather have seen Etim vs Kelly on the main card than Kelly vs Siver and Etim vs Gugerty on the prelims. Even a Junie Browning match up would have been more interesting.
The UFC is the big show, it's not about building up a fighters record.
That sadi, WAR TERRY!
S*nScum
07-09-2009, 07:13 PM
cant wait to see terry back in action, it has been said there is no need to rush him up the ladder... one step at a time.
let the lad do what he does best.
iandean
07-09-2009, 07:14 PM
Terry is 4-2 in the UFC
I think Shannon is a good name right now and Jeff Lawson has been in MMA since teh skies were black and white (no offence mate)
Etim/Kelly is not a good match-up for the UK scene right now...maybe when they both fight on TV a little more and they can set-up a Benn/Eubank kinda fight.
Kelly/Siver is a top fight btw
I heard there are reasons why Browning aint fighting
And i still think people moan too much
sol_dave
07-09-2009, 07:16 PM
imo it just shows that they must rate him and want to build his profile like Bisping
Terry is making money and improving all the time im more than happy to see him head kick ko somebody again , why not :)
The Brazilian
07-09-2009, 07:17 PM
Terry is flying, and he is also very patient this wont bother him atall and he wont be taking Shannon lightly, he just wants to do what he loves most which is winning, and im sure he will get another impressive win.
stapesmk1
07-09-2009, 07:25 PM
Terry by whatever he wants. Good lad!
mack3333
07-09-2009, 07:39 PM
Terry is 4-2 in the UFC
I think Shannon is a good name right now and Jeff Lawson has been in MMA since teh skies were black and white (no offence mate)
Etim/Kelly is not a good match-up for the UK scene right now...maybe when they both fight on TV a little more and they can set-up a Benn/Eubank kinda fight.
Kelly/Siver is a top fight btw
I heard there are reasons why Browning aint fighting
And i still think people moan too much
Yeah, 4-2 means he should be on the main card by now, fighting someone at least a bit better(or more well known) than Gugerty. Lawson may have been around longer, but Etim is better and therefore deserves a better opponent.
After impressively beating Sam Stout, I just don't think that Cobb, Bucholz and now Gugerty, are the right opponents for him in the UFC.
Kelly/Siver may have been a top fight on a U.K promotion, but in the UFC it's just a random prelim for most people who aren't british. Both Etim and Kelly should be looking a bit higher at this point and putting them against eachother wouldn't be so bad. Kelly and Taylor got nothing but credit from their fight and a loss against a tougher opponent won't be looked upon as poorly as a loss to Siver or Gugerty(not saying they're not tough though).
Look at who Dan Hardy has been fighting in the UFC. Obviously he's more experienced than Terry, but after 6 fights in the UFC and having been in there with the likes of Tibau, Clementi and Stout, I think a slightly bigger name than Shannon Gugerty isn't too much to ask for.
stapesmk1
07-09-2009, 07:45 PM
To be fair, I think Kelly and Etim are good mates going back a long way. Think they grew up together. For them to fight it would have to be a big deal like a title shot eliminator for example.
This is surely another win and potentially a highlight reel finish for Terry. But this will be a test for sure. The guy isnt a can, but is very beatable. Will test Terry's temprement and gameplan...both of which I have no doubt will ve spot on as usual.
Nothing will come of bitching about it so lets just stay positive and get behind our UK lads and be glad of a few good wins in our own back yard!!!
Stapes
mele1
07-09-2009, 07:47 PM
good fight for terry .
walk the path they choose and you will get the gold m8.
brawler4life
07-09-2009, 07:48 PM
shanon gueguerty is a good opponent but would of rather seen terry on the main card where he deserves to be imo
like i said before frankie edgar would be a good beatable opponent for him
paul kelly v siver is a good fight but for normal manchester fans its just another fight
stapesmk1
07-09-2009, 07:50 PM
shanon gueguerty is a good opponent but would of rather seen terry on the main card where he deserves to be imo
like i said before frankie edgar would be a good beatable opponent for him
paul kelly v siver is a good fight but for normal manchester fans its just another fight
Normal Manchester fans? As in new to the UFC and only know the top guys and a few brits?
Wildcatarmy
07-09-2009, 07:52 PM
A big fan of Terry... hope this is another stepping stone to the big time.
mack3333
07-09-2009, 08:00 PM
To be fair, I think Kelly and Etim are good mates going back a long way. Think they grew up together. For them to fight it would have to be a big deal like a title shot eliminator for example.
This is surely another win and potentially a highlight reel finish for Terry. But this will be a test for sure. The guy isnt a can, but is very beatable. Will test Terry's temprement and gameplan...both of which I have no doubt will ve spot on as usual.
Nothing will come of bitching about it so lets just stay positive and get behind our UK lads and be glad of a few good wins in our own back yard!!!
Stapes
Bitching got the UFC 103 main event changed :D
Mac Danzig would've been a better match up imo. I know he's coming off a few losses to tough guys, but that's a better win on Terry's record and would likely be on the main card. Maybe even Caol Uno.
IceKid
07-09-2009, 08:01 PM
good points ian dean but ill be honest im a bit gutted i was hoping he was gonna get some big fish which he deserves and is ready for was thinkin frankie edgar hes the only other fighter thats not got a fight scheduled
not being funny but edgar would most probably own etim
stapesmk1
07-09-2009, 08:04 PM
not being funny but edgar would most probably own etim
How would you see that fight going? How/where would he own him? Gen question, just don't see Terry getting OWNED anytime soon even in the big show.
IceKid
07-09-2009, 08:08 PM
How would you see that fight going? How/where would he own him? Gen question, just don't see Terry getting OWNED anytime soon even in the big show.
i reckon etim would put up a decent fight, i'd give him a kicking advantage but edgar is a level above atm, his speed and pace are ferocious and his boxing and wrestling are top notch, whether its a 3 round stand up war or a take down/GnP situation i'd give it to edgar.
3-4 more fights down the line my opinion may change, but for now: WARR ETIM!!
Jim_Williams
07-09-2009, 08:11 PM
Off topic - but why do people consider Edgar to be just a boring wrestler? from what ive seen of him he seems to be a stand up fighter more so than a wrestler.
Valour5
07-09-2009, 08:17 PM
Off topic - but why do people consider Edgar to be just a boring wrestler? from what ive seen of him he seems to be a stand up fighter more so than a wrestler.
He still struggles to finish fights imho. Only against Sherk did we see some really decent boxing & submission attempts that may highlight a gem for the future.
IceKid
07-09-2009, 08:17 PM
Off topic - but why do people consider Edgar to be just a boring wrestler? from what ive seen of him he seems to be a stand up fighter more so than a wrestler.
i think edgars as exciting as they come, his boxing is phenomenal aswell as his wrestling, cant wait for him to get a shot at BJ.... Maynard = boring wrestler
Jim_Williams
07-09-2009, 08:19 PM
He still struggles to finish fights imho. Only against Sherk did we see some really decent boxing & submission attempts that may highlight a gem for the future.
Wow, Ive never actually noticed how many decisions he has had.
Still exciting tbh.
Jim_Williams
07-09-2009, 08:20 PM
i think edgars as exciting as they come, his boxing is phenomenal aswell as his wrestling, cant wait for him to get a shot at BJ.... Maynard = boring wrestler
He used to be, I found his fight with Miller exciting though.
He showed great boxing.
IceKid
07-09-2009, 08:22 PM
Wow, Ive never actually noticed how many decisions he has had.
Still exciting tbh.
just because hes got alot of decisions doesnt mean hes not exciting >>> tyson griffin
Valour5
07-09-2009, 08:48 PM
It's fair enough being exciting, but the UFC always gives big props (and quite rightly) to guys who finish fights. Unfortunately there are some fighters who just really struggle to do this although there is no doubt they are all very talented.
Frankie Edgar, Gray Maynard, Karo Parisiyan, Jon Fitch, Tyson Griffin (who is probably the best example).
Back to Etim, Gugerty comes from a solid camp. This will be a test but still think Terry wil get the W
Ben_Hutch
07-09-2009, 08:56 PM
It's fair enough being exciting, but the UFC always gives big props (and quite rightly) to guys who finish fights. Unfortunately there are some fighters who just really struggle to do this although there is no doubt they are all very talented.
Frankie Edgar, Gray Maynard, Karo Parisiyan, Jon Fitch, Tyson Griffin (who is probably the best example).
And those 5 fighters are all LW or WW, the lighter weight guys. It's a fact at LW there are fewer stoppages than at any other weight in the UFC, and the WW guys have the 2nd fewest stoppages.
I think it's harsh to blame the fighters when it's not their fault they're not as big and powerful as guys like Lesnar/Rampage etc.
brawler4life
07-09-2009, 09:06 PM
Normal Manchester fans? As in new to the UFC and only know the top guys and a few brits?
yer m8 not the hardcores
brawler4life
07-09-2009, 09:09 PM
seriously guys edgar would lose to terry styles makes fight and terry style is perfect for edgar it would most likely be a standup fight
and terry would keep distance pick edgar of and either go for the kill with a leg kick or just decision him
edgar aint the best wrestler
maynard out wrestled, when sherk tried to wrestle with him sherk was sucessful
sherk only lost to edgar because he played a kick boxer
Jim_Williams
07-09-2009, 09:12 PM
seriously guys edgar would lose to terry styles makes fight and terry style is perfect for edgar it would most likely be a standup fight
and terry would keep distance pick edgar of and either go for the kill with a leg kick or just decision him
edgar aint the best wrestler
maynard out wrestled, when sherk tried to wrestle with him sherk was sucessful
sherk only lost to edgar because he played a kick boxer
Edgar would outstrike him, and even if he didnt hed take him down n control him.
brawler4life
07-09-2009, 09:15 PM
thats your opinion but with terrys reach i dont think edgar would outstrike him terrys the most complete striker in the lw division i think
IceKid
07-09-2009, 09:22 PM
thats your opinion but with terrys reach i dont think edgar would outstrike him terrys the most complete striker in the lw division i think
i wouldnt go that far, hes up there though
brawler4life
07-09-2009, 09:25 PM
i wouldnt go that far, hes up there though
maybe, maybe not out of interest
who would you have up there ice KID
Jim_Williams
07-09-2009, 09:26 PM
maybe, maybe not out of interest
who would you have up there ice KID
Id put BJ, KenFlo, Diego, Kelly and Fisher above him.
brawler4life
07-09-2009, 09:28 PM
forgot bout them id put kenflo and bj above him terry looked waaaay more comfortable v stout then fisher did
kelly i dont think so not more of a complete striker
diego is a close one not sure on that one
Jim_Williams
07-09-2009, 09:31 PM
forgot bout them id put kenflo and bj above him terry looked waaaay more comfortable v stout then fisher did
kelly i dont think so not more of a complete striker
diego is a close one not sure on that one
Your probably right about Kelly and Diego has mainly been boxing in his last 2 fights, so maybe hes not so "complete"
IceKid
07-09-2009, 09:33 PM
maybe, maybe not out of interest
who would you have up there ice KID
guys like kenflo, tyson griffin (it really showed in his fight with sherk) huerta has great stand up, many more, nick diaz though hes left. who would u have up there 'brawlerwithnolife'?
brawler4life
07-09-2009, 09:35 PM
guys like kenflo, tyson griffin (it really showed in his fight with sherk) huerta has great stand up, many more, nick diaz though hes left. who would u have up there 'brawlerwithnolife'?
lol says the sad kid whos got over 1000 in 3 months lol and over 11 posts a day we not seeing a new ben hutch arre we whats up with these teens from london wanting to come on ere and cause shit i thought london was more exciting then you make it out to be little cunt
IceKid
07-09-2009, 09:42 PM
lol says the sad kid whos got over 1000 in 3 months lol and over 11 posts a day we not seeing a new ben hutch arre we whats up with these teens from london wanting to come on ere and cause shit i thought london was more exciting then you make it out to be little cunt
i come on here about an hour every 2-3 days to get an update in the world of MMA and post alot in that short amount of time, so? not everyone types with one finger like you do..
and whos causing shit? i havent said anything, you're just getting bitchy because i disagreed with your statement, thats fine with me though be a antisocial little keyboard warrior, fight on my friend.
robs1980
07-09-2009, 09:44 PM
hav any of u guys sparred wi etim in the gym... fucking hell man.. imo he wud beat any fighter we have in the ufc.. u gota train wi him to apprieciate him.. he is simply awesome.. and if u watch a lil bit ufc on tv n that,then i guess u know.. that guy hurts ya..
The Brazilian
07-09-2009, 10:00 PM
Id put BJ, KenFlo, Diego, Kelly and Fisher above him.
you guys are crazy!!! its just a joke what terry (standing up) would do to these fighters, i would put everything i own on terry smashing every one of these in a stand up fight, no disrespect to them but terry is in a different league when it comes to striking from most in the LW division.
wolfslairmma
07-09-2009, 10:55 PM
good luck mate
$candalous
07-09-2009, 11:11 PM
arahahaharararahahahahahaha, at some of the dogshit getting chatted on ere. Terry would wipe the floor in a k1/ muay thai or boxing fight with any of the other fighter's mentioned on ere. He's just glad to have an opponent after the ufc leaving it a bit later than most of the other british fighters. When Joe Silva want's him to fight the likes of Edgar or Maynard or any top 10 fighter he'll jump at the chance and be more than ready. Until then he'll just keep beating whoever they give him and improving all the time while doing it.
John@FightersOnly
07-09-2009, 11:25 PM
gugerty is no walkover so people shouldn't act like this fight is terry v some tissue
that said, i think terry will finsish this fight inside the distance
the likes of frankie edgar etc arent going anywhere, why rush? A career is a marathon not a sprint; slow & steady wins the race.
sol_dave
07-09-2009, 11:31 PM
gugerty is no walkover so people shouldn't act like this fight is terry v some tissue
that said, i think terry will finsish this fight inside the distance
the likes of frankie edgar etc arent going anywhere, why rush? A career is a marathon not a sprint; slow & steady wins the race.
agreed, I just cant see why people dont want to wait and see him grow. His striking is off the hook , subs getting better and better and while he is in fights against solid guys he is picking up octagon experience (getting used to finishing, recovering etc) while also earning a living
Rob T
07-09-2009, 11:39 PM
Ok, just checked and UFC say he is 22. He has so much of his career ahead of him, he doesn't need to start fighting top 5 guys yet, not even top 10. He still has the prospect of being champion before 25 even if he spends another 2 years fighting the likes of Gurgerty (who is hardly a bum).
I don't know whether he will beat the top guys but like I said before, I think he definitely can. Either way, no point in rushing anything. He's got himself in the UFC, I am sure he is happy to stay there for a long time.
IranianWarMachine
07-09-2009, 11:40 PM
this is a step down from buscholz and stout, i wanted to see terry vs fisher.
mack3333
08-09-2009, 12:57 AM
gugerty is no walkover so people shouldn't act like this fight is terry v some tissue
that said, i think terry will finsish this fight inside the distance
the likes of frankie edgar etc arent going anywhere, why rush? A career is a marathon not a sprint; slow & steady wins the race.
Again, no one is saying that Gugerty is a can, or that Terry should fight a top 5 opponent; only 1 guy mentioned Edgar. All I'm saying is that after his last few performances, Terry deserves a spot on the main card and an opponent who is a step up from his last 2. Danzig would've been a perfect fit for a main card match up imo, and a win for Terry would give him more exposure to people outside the U.K.
A win over Gugerty on the undercard doesn't really move him up much, and a loss would be terrible at this stage. A loss to Danzig would be much easier to take.
I mean, what will this be? 7 fights in the UFC and 6 of them will have been undercard fights? Terry deserves better.
arahahaharararahahahahahaha, at some of the dogshit getting chatted on ere. Terry would wipe the floor in a k1/ muay thai or boxing fight with any of the other fighter's mentioned on ere. He's just glad to have an opponent after the ufc leaving it a bit later than most of the other british fighters. When Joe Silva want's him to fight the likes of Edgar or Maynard or any top 10 fighter he'll jump at the chance and be more than ready. Until then he'll just keep beating whoever they give him and improving all the time while doing it.
Cant agree more, Terry is banging on the top ten door now, if not already there. Just standup alone he is imo in the top 3 lw's. Maybe the ufc think that with time he will be a superstar, so fighting a range of fighters can only be a good thing. Also Gugerty is far more dangerous than a one dimensional fighter like Stout.
Jim_Williams
08-09-2009, 11:12 AM
I just watched Stout/Etim, and I admit I didnt give him nearly enough credit.
He was great in that fight, and Id have hated to have Sam Stouts leg's that next day!
Terry's a beast standing, probably one of if not the best all-round Striker in the lightweight division. BJ probbaly has better Boxing, but I'd fancy Terry to kick his potatoe head off :)
boxingbrit
08-09-2009, 12:26 PM
Good luck Terry. Keep on winning:)
arahahaharararahahahahahaha, at some of the dogshit getting chatted on ere. Terry would wipe the floor in a k1/ muay thai or boxing fight with any of the other fighter's mentioned on ere. He's just glad to have an opponent after the ufc leaving it a bit later than most of the other british fighters. When Joe Silva want's him to fight the likes of Edgar or Maynard or any top 10 fighter he'll jump at the chance and be more than ready. Until then he'll just keep beating whoever they give him and improving all the time while doing it.
Can we expect to hear your softely-spoken, eloquent cornerning advice again? :D
"SLAM 'IM 'INTA SIDE CONTROLLLLL!"
SirFapsAlot
08-09-2009, 02:03 PM
War Terrance!
DeanoW
08-09-2009, 03:10 PM
The UFC hierarchy love Terry and have great plans for him (from Dana and Joe Silva).
He has 3 fights left on his current contract, so it appears that they wish to build him up to gain experience and an even more impressive record.
I agree with all the comments about Terry's ability - he has brilliant stand up - few in the LW division would live with him stood up. He also has a very underrated ground game - look at his tally of "wins" by submission.
He has not been stopped. He came very close to it in Cologne. Leon Roberts admitted that he was a split second from stopping the fight when Buccholz floored him - it was the fact Terry was still focussed on Buccholz that Roberts let the fight carry on. Terry's recovery from that and the subsequent submission shows that he has the ability and heart to survive and turn the fight.
As for Gugerty being easy - no way - I was almost cageside at 100 and he destroyed Matt Grice - easily. Will be a hard test for Terry, but he will come away with the win.
Which should line him up for one of the higher ranked fighters, which I believe is the plan by the UFC. I personally, would like to see him against Fisher or Stevenson after 105. Another opponent that I believe would be a great fight for Terry is Tyson Griffin - a great marker to see where someone ranks in the LW division.
I very much doubt Terry would fight Paul Kelly anytime soon. He admits that they are good friends and would not want to fight. But you never know with the UFC - if the price is right !!!! Having said that, IMO, Terry would be too good for Paul Kelly. Kelly hasn't got the stand up to handle Etim and would wanna take it down (re Taylor fight), but he hasn't got the ground game for Terry either.
Let the UFC plot Terry's fights - so far, IMO, they have done a good job - and let's support him into the top 10 and hopefully that eventual Title Shot - however long it takes.
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