Herb Dean reponds to Roy Nelson

[MMA2Go]

In a recent interview with MMAWeekly, Herb Dean talks about the decision to stop the fight in the second round verus the first round. About responds to Roy Nelson saying he was afraid to stop the fight.

-source: MMAWeekly


MMAWeekly: Firstly, Roy claimed that you didn’t stop the fight in the first round because of Kimbo’s status on the show. How do you respond to that?

Dean: Well, it’s not that complicated. I’m there to protect the fighter’s safety. Kimbo got up after that round pretty quick and spry, right? If I stop a fight it’s because I believe a fighter’s not fighting back, because he can’t. And there’s reasons why a fighter can’t fight back. One is a positional reason like Roy had on Kimbo. It was positional. Could (Kimbo) handle blows and continue to fight? He did. He made it to the end of the (first) round and continued to fight. If the blows were any less, I would have actually stood them up. The blows were strong enough to warrant being on the ground, but they weren’t strong enough for me to stop the fight.

MMAWeekly: So you felt the blows that Kimbo was taking in the second round were, whereas the ones in the first round weren’t?

Dean: Well, I believe that the blows were solid blows. In the first round, they were solid blows, just like in the second round, but in the second round, it was the beginning of the round that he was down there. I can’t allow him – he was not going to improve his position, he was not going to solve it – I couldn’t allow him five minutes of that in the second round. Could I allow him to take it for 30 seconds in the first? Sure

MMAWeekly: Roy said that he got into it with you after the fight…

Dean: Well, that’s not getting into it with me. He’s made a statement. By getting into it means that I guess I have to respond. He said some things. Whatever. Fighters say things all the time. I have a lot of respect for Roy, what he’s done in the sport. His statements that he’s making, I don’t really understand those. You’re there to try to win, try to beat the fighter, try to win in the most decisive way possible. Not to not be hurting your fighter, but taking advantage of a technicality for their safety.

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[TheUnfitOne]

Roy Nelson is a bell-end

[DOORMANMATT]

Roy Nelson is a bell-end

Agreed Roy "Big CUNT-RY" Nelson!

[Sammo27]

Agreed Nelson is an arse i hope he gets KO'd bigstylee.

Herb Dean was spot on i think.

[James Saville]

kimbo and roy will have a reach match later on in the ufc! And i think kimbo will beat him. it will happen..

[baz_main]

a fucking hate roy he is a pure cunt and a hope the fat bastard gets the shit kicked out of him.

[Iconoclast]

Stopped it too late????

I think he stopped it too early.

Kimbo looked fresh as a dasiy. Roy's punches were quite pathetic.

Kimbo just has no groundgame.

[Fight Of The Night]

I thought Kimbo was intelligently defending himself by pressing his face into the folds in Nelson's belly, thus alleviating much of the damage.

Keeping my fingers crossed that the standard of fighting improves as the series goes on, it's not exactly been a great advert for the sport so far.

[Malcontent]

Afterwards, Kimbo just looked like he'd had a tough sparring session. He didn't look like he had been well beaten.

I like Roy Nelson. He's a prick but I like him nonetheless. However, for him to suggest that the fight should have been stopped sooner is absurd.

[markjitsu]

i haven't seen it yet, but thanks for telling me what happens in advance

[Ryom85]

Those baby punches didn't do any damage at all, he might aswell have padded him on the head.
Even though he's a great fighter (Roy) I don't understand how a top athlete can be in that shape, it puzzles me

[mikiesbuk]

I watched the fight kimbo wasn't going to get out of the position in the first round so yes reaslistically herb dean thought let the time run out kimbo can handle the damage for 30secs even though he could not defend himself!

However the 2nd round roy got kimbo in exactly the same position and it was game over. Whatever Roy is or isn't he won the fight fairly and squarely and Kimbo was not going to get out of the position and was going to take more damage - good stoppage at the right time.

[Jim_Williams]

Asthetically Nelson may look like a fat bastard, he never seems to gas.

[dannybadger]

Roy seems like a right arrogant Tard, hope someone gives him a kicking later on but cant see it happening

[Basilisk]

A redneck beat up a street nigga.

Move on.

[Ben_Hutch]

Asthetically Nelson may look like a fat bastard, he never seems to gas.

I don't think I'd gas if I weighed 30lbs more than my opponent and I layed on them for 5 minutes.

[Basilisk]

The old troll trolls were much better.
I seem to remember Jones_is_gay would post pictures of the gay one from Little Britain.

[CraigSt.Clair]

Fuck Roy Nelson, I liked him but he just comes off like an arrogant cunt now like WARRRRRRRRRRR KIMBO

[Lyoto The Cheater Machida]

i haven't seen it yet, but thanks for telling me what happens in advance

Well use your common sense and dont go on an MMA forum if you're still waiting to watch an episode.

[almostthem]

Fuck Roy Nelson, I liked him but he just comes off like an arrogant cunt now like WARRRRRRRRRRR KIMBO

me too, i hope he gets smashed

[markjitsu]

i am a paedophile

listen to me, you useless, pathetic, attention seeking, retarded, fake, piece of shit.
don't ever attempt to communicate with me again - you are not even worthy of viewing what i type...

[Jam Roll]

Felt sorry for kimbo he clearly didn't have a clue what to do on the ground

[Pinhead]

I guess there really is something bigger than Nelsons belly - his head.

[sol_dave]

dont know why Herb even responded

[Jam Roll]

Roy Nelson is a bell-end

Roy nelson = fat white cunt

[Grake]

Roy nelson = fat white cunt


Ray-ciss..

[Nimmy]

Roy nelson = fat white cunt

whats being white got to do with it?

[Jam Roll]

whats being white got to do with it?

Nothing...

[Jam Roll]

Ray-ciss..

No rascism intended

[Leesin]

If you are white why would you say that ? so let's assume you're not white, why would you say that ? If I were to call someone a "fat black cunt" I would be called racist because it is an insult that involves someones race. :rolleyes:

[Jam Roll]

Listen m8 I'm Asian and that prick is fat honkey bastard

[Nimmy]

Listen m8 I'm Asian and that prick is fat honkey bastard

lol yeah TROLL

[Leesin]

Lol yeah no doubt about it we have another crappy troll. Stubbsy is the only troll of recent who I can think of that actually wrote some really funny stuff.

[Jam Roll]

Lol yeah no doubt about it we have another crappy troll. Stubbsy is the only troll of recent who I can think of that actually wrote some really funny stuff.

Can someone please define troll some cock said the same thing to me on another thread

[AdamM]

your google broke troll?

[Jam Roll]

your google broke troll?

Not a troll mate definitly not

[AdamM]

I think you are the only one with that opinion.

[martyp]

felt sorry for kimbo under the fat mountain ,
was there anything he could have done ??? :confused:

[Jam Roll]

felt sorry for kimbo under the fat mountain ,
was there anything he could have done ??? :confused:

I have no idea why kimbo even competes in mma he's a striker and should have gone into a more respectable sport like pro boxing or kept on having street fights where he was a star

[Luke]

... should have gone into a more respectable sport like pro boxing

How do you mean respectable? MMA is respectable.

[Jam Roll]

Take away that gay grappling bullshit and it maybe, people wanna see a fight not men rolling around on the floor doing nothing, just like in kimbos fight the ref should have stood them both up as fattywas doing fuckall even dana said it

[AdamM]

you said you didn't know what the term "trolling" meant.

see above
that's it

[Dave78]

I thought Kimbo was intelligently defending himself by pressing his face into the folds in Nelson's belly, thus alleviating much of the damage.

Keeping my fingers crossed that the standard of fighting improves as the series goes on, it's not exactly been a great advert for the sport so far.

I think the standard reflects most HW fights, slow, sluggish and lack of cardio. Only the very top tier HW seem to be anything but this. I would have preferred a LW season, or any combo of Team Europe, Team Asia, Team S.America, Team N.America featuring LW/WW/MW. Basically anything but the heavies!:(