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Justin Devonshire
30-11-2009, 05:12 PM
My name is Justin and I am the only certified MMA Strength & Conditioning Coach in Wales.

I've been helping out and answering questions on another forum but I just came across Cage Warriors so thought I'd offer to help you guys out if you need it.


I've taken part in various martial arts for almost 10 years now, and now of course I'm doing MMA. I've trained a number of athletes (as well as normal personal training clients) but training fighters is my main passion.



I've also not long put a new site up, www.REALCombatConditioning.com/blog where I post articles and tips on MMA fitness that you can view for free.


So if you have any questions or need any help please just let me know, or send me a PM for more personalised questions.


P.S - I live in Merthyr Tydfil and work around South Wales helping MMA athletes get in shape. If anyone is interested in meeting me in person, to get a Strength / Conditioning assessment or personalised training program, please PM me.


Thanks,


Justin Devonshire, MMA-CSCC

Dan Bowden
01-12-2009, 01:53 AM
Hi Justin, I'm looking to get involved in MMA the beginning of next year but im very unfit and quite overweight. I'm willing to work hard but need some help so if you can let me know prices, times and where to etc. I live in Bargoed about 20 mins away from Merthyr. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks.

Hands Of Stone
01-12-2009, 06:17 PM
You live in Bargoed.
You're fucked.
Never leave the house.


The Hands

shakus maximus
01-12-2009, 11:20 PM
You live in Bargoed.
You're fucked.
Never leave the house.

i agree
chris ginger ninja morgan and greg callow who train with me are from that neck of the woods and they are truly deranged

Dan Bowden
02-12-2009, 02:59 PM
i know both of them they play rugby 4 Bargoed or used 2 don't know if they still do. Do u know any good MMA gyms that aren't 2 far away from me that take beginners?

Justin Devonshire
02-12-2009, 04:07 PM
Yeah, I've heard about the perils of Bargoed!


Dan, i'll be happy to help, I'll send you a PM with some details.

Dan Bowden
02-12-2009, 06:29 PM
OK thanks Justin i appreciate it.

123 MMA
02-12-2009, 08:01 PM
Thanks Justin ive signed up and read some articles, learnt some things already!

Allan Shrek
02-12-2009, 08:40 PM
How does the MMA part come into the NSCA CSCS, I have found details of the NSCA CSCS on their website but can't see anything about an MMA specific program.

Also what does the Red Grade in Budo Submission Wrestling relate to? I've never heard of this art, where did you learn it? Have you ever competed in any submission wrestling tournaments or in MMA?

FlameBoy
02-12-2009, 10:11 PM
Where is the popcorn icon?

Justin Devonshire
02-12-2009, 10:30 PM
The MMA CSCC certification is seperate from the CSCS. It is run by JC Santana who is one of the board directors of the NSCA. You can find more details here:http://www.mmaunltd.com/news-detail.asp/NewsID/983/jc-santana-december-09-course.htm


The Budo submission wrestling was taught at the hammerlock school by Andre Baker in Kent. Im not competing currently due to a recovering injury, and I have not taken part in an MMA tournament. But as a strength & conditioning coach, not a skills coach I beleive that is irrelevant.


If you are sceptical or feel uneasy taking advice thats okay, Im not going to force my opinions on you.

Allan Shrek
02-12-2009, 11:05 PM
I'm happy with my S&C coach, was just interested to see what you were offering.

Thanks.

Justin Devonshire
02-12-2009, 11:25 PM
That's cool.

Look, Im not here to sell stuff or make money. But there is so much bad info on strength and conditioning for MMA and combat being thrown around out there.

I'd like to pass on what I've learned so far and what I keep learning every day, based on what really works and information from the top coaches in the world.

Martial arts has evolved into MMA. Traditional arts have been exposed as being 'not as effective' in reality, shall we say.

Yet most fighters still use the same methods of conditioning that were used 50 years ago, method which are now also being proven 'not as effective' in reality.


I won't give advice unless I know it works, and I would do it myself.

shakus maximus
02-12-2009, 11:54 PM
i know both of them they play rugby 4 Bargoed or used 2 don't know if they still do. Do u know any good MMA gyms that aren't 2 far away from me that take beginners?

both train and fight for me. we are based an abertillery which aint a million miles from you
also got a lad called dai jenkins training regular with us he is also from bargoed so no reaso why you cant car share
my tel number is on my website if u want to give me a call.

d0ugbug
03-12-2009, 11:11 AM
Martial arts has evolved into MMA. Traditional arts have been exposed as being 'not as effective' in reality, shall we say.

MMA has been around for years since the time people cross trained thats what MMA is.

UFC was formed from trying to find the most effective real life fighting system.

How are traditional arts exposed as "not being effective"?

Justin Devonshire
03-12-2009, 11:57 AM
The original UFC events you mentioned proved this, didn't they? Because one style alone, be it karate or whatever else, proved ineffective against another, a mixed approach became the most effective.

Are you saying that the hybrid style of fighting used in MMA is not an evolution of various forms of traditional martial arts?

Dan Bowden
03-12-2009, 04:56 PM
I'm definitely up 4 going up there it sounds like a really good club i'll have 2 wait a few months tho saving 4 a car but if u cud let me know prices for memberships id appreciate it a lot thanks.

shakus maximus
03-12-2009, 11:00 PM
I'm definitely up 4 going up there it sounds like a really good club i'll have 2 wait a few months tho saving 4 a car but if u cud let me know prices for memberships id appreciate it a lot thanks.

4 A class or 40 a month unlimited training mate

d0ugbug
04-12-2009, 12:29 PM
I wouldn't say one style is ineffective against the other at the end of the day its down the practitioner of that art not the style!

All I was asking is why you said : Martial arts has evolved into MMA. Traditional arts have been exposed as being 'not as effective' in reality, shall we say.

MMA is a sport using traditional martial arts at the skill set behind it it. Not the replacement for a traditional art such as karate

wagon
04-12-2009, 09:23 PM
one style of martil art was very effective in the early UFC:D :D :D

mma is a progresson and a sport / art of it's own. It isn't boxing, muay thai, Jiujitsu or wrestling. A combination of them all that takes what works from each of them under the restrictions of the rules of MMA.

Justin Devonshire
05-12-2009, 12:05 AM
I agree with Wagon, thats what I was trying (poorly) to say.

For instance, traditional boxing isnt traditional boxing in MMA - its dirty boxing.

Wrestling isnt traditional wrestling when used in MMA - you have to narrow your stance and work from a longer distance, so the mechanics change.


MMA has evolved these arts into one hybrid art.

That was my original point when I said fighting has evolved, the sport has changed. Yet most people havent changed the way they train in strength and conditioning.

The game has changed but the training hasn't.

d0ugbug
05-12-2009, 01:01 AM
Ok so not looking to have a go im interested. So what you class as out dated methods and what do you offer as a solution or improvement upon them?

Dan Bowden
05-12-2009, 02:41 AM
that sounds really reasonable i expected it to be more to be honest is it OK if i can come up next week and sit in on a session just to have a look? ill pay the 4 if needs be but ill definitely be coming up when i can drive legally r all the classes and times still the same as on your website?

Justin Devonshire
05-12-2009, 03:10 PM
Dougbug - Thats why I started writing a blog -check it out to find your answers!:)

Greg Carlo
02-01-2010, 06:21 PM
dan if you want a lift training mate i go up every monday an wednesday and try to get to the others as much as possible let me know if u fancy it. i pick dai up in aberbargoed so u can jump in if u like. drop me a message on ya if ya intrested. best mma club locally with a great bunch of lads an no egos.

an shakey aint a bad coach either hahahaha

titans_valley_muay_thai
01-02-2010, 01:07 AM
hi justin just a quick question can you tell me who you done your qualifications with? are you reps qualified? what experience you have? fighters you have trained? any magazines you have worked for and what club fighters you have prepared for combat, ase i am a personal trainer who specialise in high intensity training, i have also wrote for "fighting fit" magazine ?(also love jc santana) just want to know your angle no digs just want to make sure the fighting community are not getting ripped off by another make believe trainer
thanks

Justin Devonshire
04-02-2010, 11:04 AM
Titans Valley Muai Thai - I've already answered such questions in this thread and can assure you I am a real trainer, and am not make believe.

I am the strength & conditioning coach to the Iron Warriors MMA Team in Merthyr Tydfil. You are welcome to come over and train with us (Saturdays 2pm, Wednesdays 6pm) and I can resolve any doubts you may have.

I believe that being local we should network anyway, as I am always happy to share training ideas and experiences with other coaches.

I am the Strength & Conditioning contributor to MMAUnltd.com and Razorstorm.co.uk.

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