View Full Version : Banned from a street in Huddersfield without committing a crime
boxingbrit
17-12-2009, 06:40 PM
Today i was awoken by the police at my door again. This time it was to tell me that i wasnt to go near or on Lawrence Road, Marsh. I also had to tell my brother he was not allowed near either, that there would be a police presence and if we were seen we would be locked up.
I rang my solicitor after a long argument about how they can stop me when i havent committed a crime and they dont seem to have reason. Anyway after lots of calls it has now become apparent that Craig Meehan (Paedo who lived with Karen Mathews/ Shannon Mathews) has been moved onto that road.
Firstly, what the fuck has that got to do with me? I wouldnt of ever known if they hadnt turned up this morning. Secondly, what the fuck are they doing moving that cunt within 200yrds of my sons nursery?
GGGrrrrrrrr
IceKid
17-12-2009, 06:43 PM
would you recognise him?
boxingbrit
17-12-2009, 06:46 PM
probably not
Jak-TapouT-
17-12-2009, 06:56 PM
Do they know you? like are you frequently or have frequently caused trouble?
do they know your a Pro Fighter? cos they could be trying to find "the local 'ard nuts' and give em a warning - knowing what dumb fucks the po po are.
If i were you, i would rage if they put him near my hypothetical children
boxingbrit
17-12-2009, 06:58 PM
I have an ongoing issue of harrassment, logging every visit with my solicitor but i've only ever been convicted of a crime once which was a fight at school. I'm not happy about him being so close to my son but i didnt know anything about it till they came
You been pulled in for assault or anything close?
Probably just took everybody in X mile range of his new place and looked who might want to give him a hiding
Basilisk
17-12-2009, 07:11 PM
Go fuck his shit up Ian.
Vader
17-12-2009, 07:28 PM
sounds like they want the local crims to know where he lives.
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2008/04/23/meehan1460.jpg
Dave78
17-12-2009, 07:30 PM
I have an ongoing issue of harrassment, logging every visit with my solicitor but i've only ever been convicted of a crime once which was a fight at school. I'm not happy about him being so close to my son but i didnt know anything about it till they came
Mate, if that's true (1 crime) then that's fucking outrageous!
Zanmato
17-12-2009, 07:32 PM
That's weird. The above poster may have a point... how is he out and re-homed already? Perhaps they're not so subtly asking for some vigilante justice.
Is that street in your area then? If they're going to seal off part of your own area to you for no reason, can you stop paying council tax? Or kick up a fuss and ask for money off? Why should you pay for the upkeep of a street you can't visit, for something you've never done!?
Plastikman
17-12-2009, 07:42 PM
Must surely have been some sort of mistake?
Neither Ian or Dave strike me as the kind of lads to react to situations in a heavy handed manner.:confused:
boxingbrit
17-12-2009, 07:44 PM
Its half a mile from my house. I was locked up for a wounding at 16. That is the only time i have ever been convicted of anything and it was 15 yrs ago!!
I rememberhim off the tv now i've seen that pic. I have put it on my facebook so over 2500 in Hudds now know where he is.
Vader
17-12-2009, 07:46 PM
Maybe he's a nice bloke, might be innocent? He served time, now you are harassing him over facebook???
Zanmato
17-12-2009, 07:48 PM
He's already been found guilty on 11 counts of indecent material I believe... he blamed others in the house, but the computer is password protected. He doesn't have the look of an innocent man.
I reckon putting the pic up on facebook is going to cause more trouble for you than it does him though, maybe not the best of plans.
Vader
17-12-2009, 07:55 PM
How do you know he's guilty?
He doesn't have the look of an innocent man.
Oh, you're a retard
Zanmato
17-12-2009, 08:02 PM
I don't know he's guilty the same as I don't "KNOW" that I'm alive and not someone's dream, but I wasn't basing anything on my own opinions, rather the certifiable criminal conviction placed against him.
I'm sure on the odd occasion where someone's been found with reels of child porn on their password protected computer that it was someone else turns out to be accurate, but... the odds are low. The judge that convicted him knows more about the situation than either of us do, and he saw there was evidence enough for a conviction.
Of course if you think an innocent man is being persecuted for no reason and want to appeal the case on his behalf then feel free, our genius overlord...
boxingbrit
17-12-2009, 08:06 PM
I didnt say i had posted the pic, i have posted what has happened on my status. I feel i have been harassed for the last 14 yrs by the police and all the images on my computer are of over 18's :p
Vader
17-12-2009, 08:13 PM
the hypocrisy of this thread is incredible. The guy served his time, but it's ok to harass him, yet boxingbrit served his time so should be left alone? People saying the justice system is fucked on the one hand, and then saying he's guilty because he was convicted by the supposedly fucked justice system???
the hypocrisy of this thread is incredible. The guy served his time, but it's ok to harass him, yet boxingbrit served his time so should be left alone? People saying the justice system is fucked on the one hand, and then saying he's guilty because he was convicted by the supposedly fucked justice system???
Big difference between leathering some guy and child porn, IMO.
Zanmato
17-12-2009, 08:21 PM
and another big difference between 15 years and a couple of months.. the guy was in jail for what, a year or something? can't have been much more than that? for wanking to naked kids.. i hardly think he's "done his time".. i also had/have no opinion on boxingbrit's situation as i know nothing of the situation, and am not really that bothered..
if that horse get's any higher, you'll never be able to get off.. careful now
Vader
17-12-2009, 08:24 PM
and another big difference between 15 years and a couple of months.. so he should be ok in 14 years time? It's ok to harass people as long as they've only recently been released?
so he should be ok in 14 years time? It's ok to harass people as long as they've only recently been released?
Anyone who abuses children should be tortured until they die regardless of how much punishment they have already received and knowing Huddersfield he will get some serious abuse once word gets around and that is what he deserves.
Your argument means nothing to real Yorkshire men, some Londoners might want things done fairly and ethically but fuck them and torture the filthy little shit until he breaks physically and mentally.
Zanmato
17-12-2009, 08:36 PM
I'm not saying that it's okay to harrass anyone, guilty or innocent, but the implication that these 2 drastically different situations are comparable is silly... Believe what you want mate, the night's too short to be pointlessly debating morality on a situation that doesn't effect me with a person that I don't know & will never meet..
Vader
17-12-2009, 09:11 PM
what 2 drastically different situations?
ralphylad
17-12-2009, 09:43 PM
I think he deserves a hiding for being an ugly cunt if that counts?
Its how i envisaged Paul jonno to look until i saw a pic of him
sol_dave
17-12-2009, 09:53 PM
Anyone who abuses children should be tortured until they die regardless of how much punishment they have already received and knowing Huddersfield he will get some serious abuse once word gets around and that is what he deserves.
Your argument means nothing to real Yorkshire men, some Londoners might want things done fairly and ethically but fuck them and torture the filthy little shit until he breaks physically and mentally.
hahaha reminds me of Leeds fans on holiday
YORKSHIRE YORKSHIRE YORKSHIRE! :)
hahaha reminds me of Leeds fans on holiday
YORKSHIRE YORKSHIRE YORKSHIRE! :)
WHITE ROSE! WHITE ROSE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YIl9dPCxXQ
sol_dave
17-12-2009, 10:13 PM
WHITE ROSE! WHITE ROSE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YIl9dPCxXQ
hahahaha brilliant
Jamie Taylor
17-12-2009, 11:09 PM
the hypocrisy of this thread is incredible. The guy served his time, but it's ok to harass him, yet boxingbrit served his time so should be left alone? People saying the justice system is fucked on the one hand, and then saying he's guilty because he was convicted by the supposedly fucked justice system???
WTF ? Is this a joke ? :mad:
So if he had pics of one of your kids on his computer you'd let it lie 'cos he's done his time ?
Ridiculous. I know you're gonna say well it wasn't my kid why should I care, If you even think that then you are a fucking helmet.
Mattchoo
18-12-2009, 12:00 AM
Not sure if your just playing the wind up or not Vader, but this guy has no way out. There is a massive difference in beating someone up to child porn and being a paedophile.. could you explain your view please?
Dmjohn2000
18-12-2009, 12:43 AM
Maybe he's a nice bloke, might be innocent? He served time, now you are harassing him over facebook???
His laptop was found to have over 2000 thousand indecenct pics of kids if he was moved any were near me or my son I would smash the lads head in. It makes angry anybody with this kind of record should be any were near a school of sorts. Im shaking with anger while writing this even if he has served time he is a fucking a paedo.
Dmjohn2000
18-12-2009, 12:44 AM
Not sure if your just playing the wind up or not Vader, but this guy has no way out. There is a massive difference in beating someone up to child porn and being a paedophile.. could you explain your view please?
Sorry for 2 posts in a row but Vaders post has made so fucking angry im shaking
Jamie Taylor
18-12-2009, 12:50 AM
Fucking hell Dan chill out ! LOL
Also he would fucking murder you he's about 6ft.
Dmjohn2000
18-12-2009, 12:51 AM
Fucking hell Dan chill out ! LOL
Also he would fucking murder you he's about 6ft.
I dont care mate that quote is bang out im ctually shaking with anger. Plus I have bats that would equal us out.
Jamie Taylor
18-12-2009, 12:52 AM
If you really are shaking with anger you need to go to your docs as you have a problem !
Dmjohn2000
18-12-2009, 12:59 AM
Been to the docs he recomends a blowtorch and a set of pliers to pull the paedos nuts off
Basilisk
18-12-2009, 05:06 AM
The old bill were obviously alerting you to his location so you might be inclined to "visit" him.
They do it to me sometimes and they always alert me to the location of people who they seem to deem as not having had enough punishment.
They sent him to one of the roughest parts of britain like they asking for him to get a battering
Hammer
18-12-2009, 09:53 AM
They sent him to one of the roughest parts of britain like they asking for him to get a battering
This could well be the case, and the same reason for alerting the very people they think may do it. Remember the vast amount of wasted police time on this case while the paedo and his slag were guzzling lager.
I dont care mate that quote is bang out im ctually shaking with anger.
I get like that when someone disagrees with me over the internet. How dare anyone question my superior brane!! *RAGE*
...but seriously, people who purposely download child pornography are the same as Paedophiles. You have to take into consideration the fact that the children in the photos are abused and for someone to be viewing these photos is supporting these sick people that make the photos and abuse these kids.
DetoxGuru.com
18-12-2009, 10:12 AM
the sentences paedos get in this country are a fucking outrage, i reasd about a u s webmaster getting 180 years recently and we are handing out 2 yr sentences, fucking ridiculous.
Femme-ma
18-12-2009, 10:27 AM
How do you know he's guilty?
Oh, you're a retard
I'd suggest knowing he's guilty could be tenuously construed from his conviction for the crime.
so he should be ok in 14 years time? It's ok to harass people as long as they've only recently been released?
In short, yes. It's called the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act.
You're not very good at this trolling business really, are you?
Jogs D
18-12-2009, 10:46 AM
Ian, mate that's a shit situation to be in... I'd be well fucking pissed off if a paedo was living either anywhere near we live or where my little boy goes to nursery/playgroup etc... I'd make sure that sick fuck moves away lively - easier said than done, especially if there's a police presence.... :(
Initially I thought the copper was telling you in the hope you'd do him in, but then they said to you there's a police presence in the area so I'm not so sure now. Can't understand why the police would want to protect him or why our taxpayers money is paying the police to protect him....
Anyways all the best and I hope it gets all sorted somehow.... Not sure what the solution is. As there's a police presence around that complicates things - unless of course you've got a few mates in the old bill who don't mind looking the other way while you pay a friendly visit.....
Other than that, sadly it might mean taking your boy out of that nursery. Shit solution as your boy will no doubt be confortable in that nursery and have loads of friends there etc....
Final option is check that the nursery are aware of this sick fuck being in the area and ensure they keep an extra high level of security there and that they ensure the kids are protected at all times. I'd imagine that's the case normally, but with a paedo living nearby the threat level would be increased....
Like I said - shit situation - hope you get it sorted mate....
Sledge
18-12-2009, 10:56 AM
I'm sure someone who has read this thread or a certains persons facebook update might feel the need to pay him a little visit and advise him he is not wanted in the area.
Fucking nonce.
LOL at the suggestion of Ian having some friends on the force.
PhilYHC
18-12-2009, 11:08 AM
there is a paedo in my area, i have been given the address...plus its real close to a school, feel free to pay him a visit anytime lol
Its win/win for the Police though-Paedo gets a hammering and local faces get arrested and possibly prosecuted.
the sentences paedos get in this country are a fucking outrage, i reasd about a u s webmaster getting 180 years recently and we are handing out 2 yr sentences, fucking ridiculous.
The whole country is the laughing stock of the world mate.
madhorsebjj
18-12-2009, 01:21 PM
They can't do this shit to you need to speak to Liberty and call all the tabloids, or the Guardian and Independent. This was probably done through some bullshit anti-terrorism legislation that was passed to protect us from terrorists.
Regarding the paedophile, hopefully someone tortures him to death.
graham
18-12-2009, 02:59 PM
the most they could do is ask you to leave the area
simmy
18-12-2009, 03:46 PM
Me and my 2 brothers were basically given the go ahead to smash fuck out of / or do away with a family of bullies here after my younger brother had a do wiv 4 of them and fucked them up...problem is that police will tell you to do it discretely (as wiv us) but then shit on you if you do follow through wiv attacks etc...i'd advise doing nothing at all or a discreet k.o wen its all settled down in near future....
Wiegieboard
18-12-2009, 04:02 PM
Why do they always move beasts next to schools anyway? I mean seriously, what the fuck is that all about?!
mack3333
18-12-2009, 06:41 PM
Why do they always move beasts next to schools anyway? I mean seriously, what the fuck is that all about?!
To be fair, there's bound to be a school or nursery near to wherever they put these people.
Harassing or attacking these people can also have unintended consequences. If you leave them, at least the police can keep track of all their movements, but if you go after them, you could drive them underground where they can operate without supervision and do something terrible.
Great film called "The Woodsman" about this subject.
Sinko
19-12-2009, 12:54 AM
sounds like bollocks to me tbh. typical estate rumour mill that ends up with some poor cunt getting his window's bricked in over a case of mistaken identity.
who told you it was him?
londonpride
19-12-2009, 02:00 AM
The whole country is the laughing stock of the world mate.
yeh, righteo :rolleyes:
Longman
19-12-2009, 03:37 AM
The whole country is the laughing stock of the world mate.
I'm gonna take a wild guess here and say you haven't spent a lot of time abroad right?
And I don't think a year in jail for looking at pictures on a computer is a joke. I understand that it fuels the industry, but that is why we have the law. As i understand it, there is no evidence that he actually carried out any abuse himself?
How many people on here watched '3 Ukrainians and a hammer'? Should you all be locked up?
londonpride
19-12-2009, 03:45 AM
I'm gonna take a wild guess here and say you haven't spent a lot of time abroad right?
And I don't think a year in jail for looking at pictures on a computer is a joke. I understand that it fuels the industry, but that is why we have the law. As i understand it, there is no evidence that he actually carried out any abuse himself?
How many people on here watched '3 Ukrainians and a hammer'? Should you all be locked up?
dear oh dear
Longman
19-12-2009, 03:47 AM
Its win/win for the Police though-Paedo gets a hammering and local faces get arrested and possibly prosecuted.
Exactly. I reckon they are being devious little fuckers here. Trust me they would down on boxingbrit like a ton of bricks if anything happened, and prosecute him to the full.
Fucking harassment in the worst way. I'd say tell your solicitor. It's almoost incitement. Why don't they do it themselves?
IranianWarMachine
19-12-2009, 05:40 AM
Big difference between leathering some guy and child porn, IMO.
Child porn is anything under18 if i recall and there are plenty of17 year olds that would pass for 21, but it's still disgusting regardless, but if he's done his time he should be left alone.
londonpride
19-12-2009, 08:09 AM
Child porn is anything under18 if i recall and there are plenty of17 year olds that would pass for 21, but it's still disgusting regardless, but if he's done his time he should be left alone.
BOLLOX!!
so you're saying a fella could rape five 6 year old girls, does his 20 years in jail and comes out and you'd be happy to let him live next door to you?
All the people on here trying to claim some moral high ground, but there are certain crimes which you can't just amend for, and being a nonce is top of the list.
Longman
19-12-2009, 08:53 AM
dear oh dear
Don't actually know the details of the case. but you argument has put me right. Thanks!
FlyingTriangle
19-12-2009, 10:11 AM
BOLLOX!!
so you're saying a fella could rape five 6 year old girls, does his 20 years in jail and comes out and you'd be happy to let him live next door to you?
All the people on here trying to claim some moral high ground, but there are certain crimes which you can't just amend for, and being a nonce is top of the list.
Agreed, and the thing with these people is that they never change.
Grake
19-12-2009, 10:38 AM
How many people on here watched '3 Ukrainians and a hammer'? Should you all be locked up?
errr no, we shouldn't, but if we were all sat watching child porn then yes, yes we should
can you not see the difference?
Longman
19-12-2009, 10:49 AM
errr no, we shouldn't, but if we were all sat watching child porn then yes, yes we should
can you not see the difference?
Yeah, I see the difference. The difference is he had loads of pictures stored (I think), so he obviously got off on it.
My point is, watching something is not the same as doing it. Yes, I think he should be locked up (he was) and i don't think everyone who watched that film should be locked up. However, to say he should get the same sentence as someone that has actually abused kids is wrong imo. There has to be a scale. I don't think by watching the ukranians means you would go out and batter a homeless guy to death, even if you got off on the film.
I'd be interested to know what sentence people think he should have got (again, I don't know the details of the case, although i'm guessing the judge did).
I'm just getting a bit sick of the 'these sentences are a joke' cliche, although looking back i could probably have chosen a worthier example...:(
Matty
19-12-2009, 11:01 AM
He doesn't have the look of an innocent man.
"so in summary your honor, I realise I have a weak case, no evidence, witnesses or anything really. BUT HE DOESNT HAVE THE LOOK OF AN INNOCENT MAN! I rest my case.........."
LOL, hope you never get jury duty!!!!
Serotonin+
19-12-2009, 12:28 PM
Yeah, I see the difference. The difference is he had loads of pictures stored (I think), so he obviously got off on it.
My point is, watching something is not the same as doing it. Yes, I think he should be locked up (he was) and i don't think everyone who watched that film should be locked up. However, to say he should get the same sentence as someone that has actually abused kids is wrong imo. There has to be a scale. I don't think by watching the ukranians means you would go out and batter a homeless guy to death, even if you got off on the film.
I'd be interested to know what sentence people think he should have got (again, I don't know the details of the case, although i'm guessing the judge did).
I'm just getting a bit sick of the 'these sentences are a joke' cliche, although looking back i could probably have chosen a worthier example...:(
How are you trying to come across in this thread? I think its disgusting anyone trying to rationalise watching a group of people murder someone which is ultimately unsettling (yes i watched it and wish i didnt) and watching children being abused for sexual gratification.
Frankly this thread started with Ian expressing genuine grevaince about the police, but is now turning unsavoury.
MikeyL
19-12-2009, 12:31 PM
Welcome to Cagewarriors!
Longman
19-12-2009, 01:31 PM
How are you trying to come across in this thread? I think its disgusting anyone trying to rationalise watching a group of people murder someone which is ultimately unsettling (yes i watched it and wish i didnt) and watching children being abused for sexual gratification.
Frankly this thread started with Ian expressing genuine grevaince about the police, but is now turning unsavoury.
It shouldn't be unsavoury. My point is about sentencing, something i studied.
A line always needs to be drawn between thoughts and actions is my point. That is why the guy only got a year. There are very few crimes where just watching something will get you a prison sentence. You can watch murder, rape, torture, any kinds of unsavoury stuff without committing a crime. That was my point about the Ukrainian film.
Child porn is an exception . Rightly so imo. He got a year.
It obviously bothers me that people think i am defending this guy. I think i am defending the judge in his case.
And I don't agree with Vader that he has done his time, and the law reflects this, which is why he would still be on the sexual offenders list, and will (hopefully) be watched carefully.
Serotonin+
19-12-2009, 02:03 PM
It shouldn't be unsavoury. My point is about sentencing, something i studied.
A line always needs to be drawn between thoughts and actions is my point. That is why the guy only got a year. There are very few crimes where just watching something will get you a prison sentence. You can watch murder, rape, torture, any kinds of unsavoury stuff without committing a crime. That was my point about the Ukrainian film.
Child porn is an exception . Rightly so imo. He got a year.
It obviously bothers me that people think i am defending this guy. I think i am defending the judge in his case.
And I don't agree with Vader that he has done his time, and the law reflects this, which is why he would still be on the sexual offenders list, and will (hopefully) be watched carefully.
I think the distinction lies with psychology. A person may go to prison for murder, in some cases pre-meditated and leave prison with no danger to society. You have a fight in the street and kill someone then you do your time and accept it. Some will go to prison for murder and still leave a danger to society.
With paedophiles, whether having committed an act or viewing acts for sexually gratification, they still leave prison attracted to children. I doubt there are many cases of paedophiles leaving prison reformed of sexual perversions. This is why they are marked as dangerous to society, and that what Vader said of him doing his time is unacceptable. He will always be a danger to children, regardless of time served.
Longman
19-12-2009, 02:20 PM
I think the distinction lies with psychology. A person may go to prison for murder, in some cases pre-meditated and leave prison with no danger to society. You have a fight in the street and kill someone then you do your time and accept it. Some will go to prison for murder and still leave a danger to society.
With paedophiles, whether having committed an act or viewing acts for sexually gratification, they still leave prison attracted to children. I doubt there are many cases of paedophiles leaving prison reformed of sexual perversions. This is why they are marked as dangerous to society, and that what Vader said of him doing his time is unacceptable. He will always be a danger to children, regardless of time served.
I don't think anything i have said disagrees with what you just said. It shouldn't because I agree with every word.
This is my point about the sexual offences act. He is still rightly regarded as a danger. Unfortunately it is not practically or economically possible to keep people like him locked up for life.
I also agree that i don't think these people can be 'reformed'. There was a case of a paedo that volunteered for chemical castration and continued to abuse. And in fact prison can make these people worse, as they are segregated with each other.
Anyway, I think i slightly derailed this thread. Basically, i don't think our justice system is the worst in the world. On the contrary I think it is the best, and that is not just blind patriotism.
David Butlin
19-12-2009, 02:53 PM
It was me that they came looking for, to two seperate addresses, and I have no criminal convictions nor did I know the dirty, nonce lived there. Everytime something happens they turn up. The last time I got locked for 19 hours for something I had allegedly done. Unfortunately for them I was in Russia at the time and it was dropped.
TBH nonces of any sort deserve everything they get as do the people protecting and defending them.
D
PS I heard he had been moved an yway so should be the end of that.
Wiegieboard
19-12-2009, 04:00 PM
It was me that they came looking for, to two seperate addresses, and I have no criminal convictions nor did I know the dirty, nonce lived there. Everytime something happens they turn up. The last time I got locked for 19 hours for something I had allegedly done. Unfortunately for them I was in Russia at the time and it was dropped.
TBH nonces of any sort deserve everything they get as do the people protecting and defending them.
D
PS I heard he had been moved an yway so should be the end of that.
You'd hopefully have a pretty good case for police harassment. That must be a pain in the arse.
Ben_Hutch
19-12-2009, 04:15 PM
Yeah, I see the difference. The difference is he had loads of pictures stored (I think), so he obviously got off on it.
My point is, watching something is not the same as doing it. Yes, I think he should be locked up (he was) and i don't think everyone who watched that film should be locked up. However, to say he should get the same sentence as someone that has actually abused kids is wrong imo. There has to be a scale. I don't think by watching the ukranians means you would go out and batter a homeless guy to death, even if you got off on the film.
I'd be interested to know what sentence people think he should have got (again, I don't know the details of the case, although i'm guessing the judge did).
I'm just getting a bit sick of the 'these sentences are a joke' cliche, although looking back i could probably have chosen a worthier example...:(
The sick fuck was most likely 'enjoying' himself while watching/looking at the child pornography.
Do you think the people who watched the Russian video were sharpening their knives and wishing they were killing someone? No, they were most likely trying to stop themselves from throwing up and were disgusted at what they saw.
CraigSt.Clair
19-12-2009, 05:01 PM
It was me that they came looking for, to two seperate addresses, and I have no criminal convictions nor did I know the dirty, nonce lived there. Everytime something happens they turn up. The last time I got locked for 19 hours for something I had allegedly done. Unfortunately for them I was in Russia at the time and it was dropped.
TBH nonces of any sort deserve everything they get as do the people protecting and defending them.
D
PS I heard he had been moved an yway so should be the end of that.
Good to hear mate, at least he is gone from near the nursery. And I would not be upset if he had the shit kicked out of him at some point in the future
Longman
19-12-2009, 05:12 PM
The sick fuck was most likely 'enjoying' himself while watching/looking at the child pornography.
Do you think the people who watched the Russian video were sharpening their knives and wishing they were killing someone? No, they were most likely trying to stop themselves from throwing up and were disgusted at what they saw.
I really wanna get off this thread, cos i think i'm being misunderstood. But to reply, no, i think most people were sickened. That's the biggest difference, and one i pointed out.
But even if they did get off on the russian video as you descriabed, i wouldn't lock them up. I would keep an eye on them, but you shouldn't be put in jail for something you might do. He was jailed for watching abuse (which i agree with), not doing it. The sentence reflects that.
Trust me, if someone fucked up this guy, i wouldn't shed a tear. Far from it. But i wouldn't do it myself, cos i believe in the rule of law. And it's why the police shouldn't be encouraging people to do it.
I really wanna get off this thread, cos i think i'm being misunderstood. But to reply, no, i think most people were sickened. That's the biggest difference, and one i pointed out.
But even if they did get off on the russian video as you descriabed, i wouldn't lock them up. I would keep an eye on them, but you shouldn't be put in jail for something you might do. He was jailed for watching abuse (which i agree with), not doing it. The sentence reflects that.
Trust me, if someone fucked up this guy, i wouldn't shed a tear. Far from it. But i wouldn't do it myself, cos i believe in the rule of law. And it's why the police shouldn't be encouraging people to do it.
Christ mate i think you are being misunderstood here
"He was jailed for watching abuse (which i agree with), not doing it."
It looks like you agree with watching people being abused??
no im not being funny with you, ya just might want to make your position clear
IranianWarMachine
19-12-2009, 05:58 PM
BOLLOX!!
so you're saying a fella could rape five 6 year old girls, does his 20 years in jail and comes out and you'd be happy to let him live next door to you?
All the people on here trying to claim some moral high ground, but there are certain crimes which you can't just amend for, and being a nonce is top of the list.
So this guy raped someone are you sure about that? I'd rather sit back than observe rather than take a mob mentality, maybe you should look at this, http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1234783/Innocent-man-accused-paedophile-hounded-death-vigilantes.html
Longman
19-12-2009, 06:27 PM
Christ mate i think you are being misunderstood here
"He was jailed for watching abuse (which i agree with), not doing it."
It looks like you agree with watching people being abused??
no im not being funny with you, ya just might want to make your position clear
Right, I see that actually. I should have made it clearer.
I agree with him being jailed for what he did. I think it is an imprisonable offence.
londonpride
20-12-2009, 08:42 AM
So this guy raped someone are you sure about that? I'd rather sit back than observe rather than take a mob mentality, maybe you should look at this, http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1234783/Innocent-man-accused-paedophile-hounded-death-vigilantes.html
i never said he raped anyone.
but you're saying that once someone has done their time, they should be left alone. which is absolutely wrong when it comes to nonces.
you're suggesting that once someone comes out of jail we should not harress them and leave them only. but quite frankly that's bollox when it comes to some of these sick fucks who deserve to be burnt alive.
Hammer
20-12-2009, 10:40 AM
I have heard it said far too many times " watching child porn is not the same blah blah ! " First as several have said on here it feeds the needs and a market for the suppliers. I can only assume that many paedophiles start by watching the sick videos before desiring the real thing. It is worth remembering that the guy in question lived in a house full of kids along with his ugly bitch.
FlyingTriangle
20-12-2009, 08:15 PM
It was me that they came looking for, to two seperate addresses, and I have no criminal convictions nor did I know the dirty, nonce lived there. Everytime something happens they turn up. The last time I got locked for 19 hours for something I had allegedly done. Unfortunately for them I was in Russia at the time and it was dropped.
TBH nonces of any sort deserve everything they get as do the people protecting and defending them.
D
PS I heard he had been moved an yway so should be the end of that.
Police don't harass people for no reason, either your up to something which they know and cant prove or the majority of your friends are crims and are known to them. trust me
Back to the OP yeah all nonces should be burned alive
Today i was awoken by the police at my door again. This time it was to tell me that i wasnt to go near or on Lawrence Road, Marsh. I also had to tell my brother he was not allowed near either, that there would be a police presence and if we were seen we would be locked up.
I rang my solicitor after a long argument about how they can stop me when i havent committed a crime and they dont seem to have reason. Anyway after lots of calls it has now become apparent that Craig Meehan (Paedo who lived with Karen Mathews/ Shannon Mathews) has been moved onto that road.
Firstly, what the fuck has that got to do with me? I wouldnt of ever known if they hadnt turned up this morning. Secondly, what the fuck are they doing moving that cunt within 200yrds of my sons nursery?
GGGrrrrrrrr
Sounds like they want someone to give him a kicking, you're probably not the only person who has been "warned off"
DROC
boxingbrit
21-12-2009, 08:32 PM
Police don't harass people for no reason, either your up to something which they know and cant prove or the majority of your friends are crims and are known to them. trust me
I would certainly trust someone obviously as knowledgable and intelligent as you. :rolleyes:
FlyingTriangle
21-12-2009, 09:08 PM
You know fuckall about me mate, just stating the obvious
boxingbrit
21-12-2009, 09:12 PM
You know fuck all about me either 'mate' which makes your made up statements about myself and my family make you look stupid to anyone who does know the facts.
david5
21-12-2009, 09:19 PM
lol boxingbrit, as a mod, have you found that being able to see who shares ip adresses with who has made this forum less interesting, or more interesting?
boxingbrit
21-12-2009, 09:23 PM
Less interesting:D
david5
21-12-2009, 09:54 PM
i know, it's like knowing how a magic trick is done
Sounds like they want someone to give him a kicking, you're probably not the only person who has been "warned off"
DROC
probably true, coppers have as much if not more reason to dislike child molesters than most as they often have to see the results of these instances. Plus its not them who decide the sentancing, its the CPS.
That said the justice system doesn't work imo for these offenders, in my job I've seen enough of them and their histories that a shitload of them reoffend and a hell of alot don't care about what they've done
Thomas
22-12-2009, 11:30 AM
This thread is hilarious. Lol at the guys claiming the police are picking on them. The police wont go knocking on a random innocent person's door with zero leads whatsoever. If you are claiming that then you're an idiot or (more likely) not letting on thge whole truth. I never get warnings from the police, my family never get warnings from the police, my friends never get warnings from the police. If you are involved in or linked to people who do things ilegal then you may be approached by the police.
My cousin is a police officer andf i know full well if they take you in and lock you up it's because they have sufficient suspicion and reason to do so ... not because they randomly picked on some innocent for no reason.
Oh and as for the talk of vigilanteism, i'm not against it, but i think it's down to the victims to decide if they are satisfied with how our justice system dealt with the offender. I don't think a rabble of people who are not effected by it need form a lynch mob and make nit their business cos they think they're doing some good.
This thread is hilarious. Lol at the guys claiming the police are picking on them. The police wont go knocking on a random innocent person's door with zero leads whatsoever. If you are claiming that then you're an idiot or (more likely) not letting on thge whole truth. I never get warnings from the police, my family never get warnings from the police, my friends never get warnings from the police. If you are involved in or linked to people who do things ilegal then you may be approached by the police.
My cousin is a police officer andf i know full well if they take you in and lock you up it's because they have sufficient suspicion and reason to do so ... not because they randomly picked on some innocent for no reason.
Oh and as for the talk of vigilanteism, i'm not against it, but i think it's down to the victims to decide if they are satisfied with how our justice system dealt with the offender. I don't think a rabble of people who are not effected by it need form a lynch mob and make nit their business cos they think they're doing some good.
Lol at you, who have never met the Butlins or seen it in action.
Thomas
22-12-2009, 12:36 PM
Lol at you, who have never met the Butlins or seen it in action.
what are you on about?
Thomas
22-12-2009, 12:46 PM
Hi guys, today I was minding my own business and the FBI crashed through my windows with ropes all with automatic rifles drawn, there was police swat teams, helicopters and sniffer dogs. I don't know why as I have never done anything wrong. Seems this is just what the police do to the innocent.
Plasticpaddy
22-12-2009, 01:28 PM
Hi guys, today I was minding my own business and the FBI crashed through my windows with ropes all with automatic rifles drawn, there was police swat teams, helicopters and sniffer dogs. I don't know why as I have never done anything wrong. Seems this is just what the police do to the innocent.
Must have heard you were harbouring a Grand Master with intent to make money from teaching out of date/ineffectual martial arts packaged as a path to spiritual development, hey Tom?
Plasticpaddy
22-12-2009, 01:33 PM
Less interesting:D
Its not the street where you repeatedly failed to deliver the papers on your paper round as kid is it? ;-) Neighbour hood watch get cranky about that shit and they will wait for their revenge. It's like an Albanian blood feud when you get on the wrong side of the NW Crew.
And Mr Smith at Number 7 still wants to know why his copy of Razzle was always 2 days late and arrived looking like a paper based lasagne..... :D
boxingbrit
22-12-2009, 02:05 PM
bwahahahaha if i had 'a cousin who is a police officer' maybe i would know more or be left alone. For now i just need to continue working with my solicitor to find the source of the false information which seems to be given to the police.
What happened to innocent till proven guilty? Its morons like you who are to blame for the innocent people who get locked up wrongly. You've assumed guilt with no evidence yet think its ok to say things like 'nonces should all be burned alive'. :rolleyes:
Serotonin+
22-12-2009, 02:11 PM
what are you on about?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PrPy81VecE
Here you go, learn a little.
FlyingTriangle
22-12-2009, 05:33 PM
Lol some people are so defensive
mitch
26-12-2009, 03:54 AM
The law is run by the elite,like politicians they shit in the same pot.We all know bad people should be banged up,thats a given in society but to give people criminal records for smoking weed,or lock up footy fans for having a scrap for longer than a child molester or someone who butchers a puppy with a breadknife,thats fucked up.And thats whats happening folks.Its the fucking,Im alright jack cos i tow the line brigade,that keep this bollocks going.
David Butlin
26-12-2009, 04:11 AM
My cousin is a police officer andf i know full well if they take you in and lock you up it's because they have sufficient suspicion and reason to do so ... not because they randomly picked on some innocent for no reason.
Oh and as for the talk of vigilanteism, i'm not against it, but i think it's down to the victims to decide if they are satisfied with how our justice system dealt with the offender. I don't think a rabble of people who are not effected by it need form a lynch mob and make nit their business cos they think they're doing some good.
You sir are a fool, you claim to know through your 'cousin' facts. I may have been a bit hyper in the past but i have kids and a family and NO criminal record! I was recently arrested by firearms teams in Birmingham while visiting a female friend and locked up for 7 hours and released without even being processed on the computer.
I was arrested a couple of months back for various alleged violent offences that I knew nothing about. Later a policewoman admitted in front of my brief that i was arrested because a copper had heard of me and told the coppers who were talking to me to arrest me. Reluctantly they did and all charges have been dropped as the guy was proved to be lying FYI i was in Russia at M1 when alleged offences happened.
I have now had police harrassing my parents over a nonce that im supposed to have told someone im gonna beat up. Im a busy person, if i saw him dont get me wrong id dig the cunt in the face and admit to it but I had no knowledge of this and had no intention to harm the guy.
Fuckin expert! You nothing about my life, im assuming your a troll but I want to make my point clear. If your not PM me and we can talk like gentlemen.
Regards
D
phil flynn
26-12-2009, 10:08 AM
sounds like they want the local crims to know where he lives.
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2008/04/23/meehan1460.jpg
scumbag fucker,i hope i bump into this cunt in a dark alley real soon!!!!
phil flynn
26-12-2009, 10:10 AM
Maybe he's a nice bloke, might be innocent? He served time, now you are harassing him over facebook???the guys a wrong un mate,so please don't come on here defending that piece of shit!!!
phil flynn
26-12-2009, 10:11 AM
so he should be ok in 14 years time? It's ok to harass people as long as they've only recently been released?
it's ok to harrass peado's no matter how long they've been out mate,stick them all on an island and shoot the lot!!!!
phil flynn
26-12-2009, 10:22 AM
[QUOTE=David Butlin;489993]
TBH nonces of any sort deserve everything they get as do the people protecting and defending them.
D
QUOTE]
here here!!!!
phil flynn
26-12-2009, 10:24 AM
So this guy raped someone are you sure about that? I'd rather sit back than observe rather than take a mob mentality, maybe you should look at this, http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1234783/Innocent-man-accused-paedophile-hounded-death-vigilantes.html
the guy that people are talking about on this thread was convicted and sent to prison,hardly mistaken identity!!!
boxingbrit
30-12-2009, 06:06 PM
My situation has been similar to Daves although i can add having my door knocked off, dragged out of bed and locked up for 24hrs to that because of some sort of information given to the police and the subsequent finding of 'suspected cocaine', actually creatine in my apartment.
I have also recently had police get me out of bed and when my solicitor has written to them about resons they attended the names on there warrant cards apparently dont exist and its nothing to do with West Yorkshire police.
This is just the tip of the iceburg and i dont want to put it all on here but it IS harassment IMO and although i have no intention of attacking the nonce i'm also not going to lose any sleep if it happens. I have no faith in the police at all, i probably am to blame for mine and Daves problems as i imagine i shagged one of their birds/ sisters/ mums at school and this is what started the vendetta.
Duchman
31-12-2009, 11:39 PM
bhahahahah, thats super stupid off them finding creatine
sorry to hear about your troubles
Daddy D
02-01-2010, 12:14 AM
Just reading through this thread, why would anyone defend a convicted nonce. Stamping on his head i could understand, but defending him, you gotta be a cunt.
Forget the nonces rights, what about the innocent people who want to send thier kids to school without even having to think about the possibility of them being abused, or even looked at by a sick fuck like that animal.
Im a Dad of 2, a 5 and a 7 year old, and the world is too small for people like that to be allowed to roam free.
If anyone doesnt agree, go fuck yourself, theres no compromise when it comes to kids.
Thomas
03-01-2010, 02:22 AM
Nobody gets continually arrested for no reason at all you fucking dick head.
Please don't insult peoples' intelect with this "the police are picking on me and I don't know why" crap.
Thomas
03-01-2010, 02:36 AM
The entire British police force is perfectly fine with it's officers regularly visiting the Butlins just for the sheer hell of it and bringing them in for no reason at all. They don't mind all the paper work and time spent involved in arresting them randomly over nothing at all.
I can see it now. "Hey Sarg, me n my partner PC Bill are gonna go down one of the Butlins houses today and just take em in even though they have clearly done nothing wrong. What can we make up? It doesn't matter if there is shit loads of real police work to be done cos we really really give that much of a fuck about annoying a pair of nobodys for no reason at all".
The more I read this thread the more I find it hilarious. You pair of uneducated, underclass idiots. This is the type of bullshit you may be able to drone on about down ur local working man's pub where everyone else is a thick fool with a "duhhhhh ... yeah dem pigs are cunts ont thee" mentality. But people with half a brain will actually point out the total stupid bollocks you are spouting.
Now I know one of you will reply with an ever so clever post that will go along the lines of "bwahahahahha you know fuck all and you don't realise what the police are really like". But the only people you're impressing are young immature thickos who like to see themselves as bad boys. Everyone with sense just thinks you're full of shit and, to be quite frank, a bit thick.
No offense
Dave78
03-01-2010, 09:35 AM
it's ok to harrass peado's no matter how long they've been out mate,stick them all on an island and shoot the lot!!!!
No No Phil, thats a waste! Stick em on the island and reality tv it as they kill each other and get eaten by lions mate .... then donate all the revenue to charity, wait im on to something here.....registered TM, my idea! :D
SirFapsAlot
03-01-2010, 04:54 PM
No No Phil, thats a waste! Stick em on the island and reality tv it as they kill each other and get eaten by lions mate .... then donate all the revenue to charity, wait im on to something here.....registered TM, my idea! :D
Kinda like Battle Royal, but with less Japanese people and more sex offenders...
Dave78
03-01-2010, 05:52 PM
^^^
I'm thinking more like 'The Condemmed' ... except nobody gets out alive ;)!
phil flynn
03-01-2010, 09:56 PM
The entire British police force is perfectly fine with it's officers regularly visiting the Butlins just for the sheer hell of it and bringing them in for no reason at all. They don't mind all the paper work and time spent involved in arresting them randomly over nothing at all.
I can see it now. "Hey Sarg, me n my partner PC Bill are gonna go down one of the Butlins houses today and just take em in even though they have clearly done nothing wrong. What can we make up? It doesn't matter if there is shit loads of real police work to be done cos we really really give that much of a fuck about annoying a pair of nobodys for no reason at all".
The more I read this thread the more I find it hilarious. You pair of uneducated, underclass idiots. This is the type of bullshit you may be able to drone on about down ur local working man's pub where everyone else is a thick fool with a "duhhhhh ... yeah dem pigs are cunts ont thee" mentality. But people with half a brain will actually point out the total stupid bollocks you are spouting.
Now I know one of you will reply with an ever so clever post that will go along the lines of "bwahahahahha you know fuck all and you don't realise what the police are really like". But the only people you're impressing are young immature thickos who like to see themselves as bad boys. Everyone with sense just thinks you're full of shit and, to be quite frank, a bit thick.
No offense
just something i'm picking up on here,i don't beleive either of the butlins have had a criminal conviction for a long long time so therefore i'm guessing no charges are being brought against them when they are being arrested,so therefore i recon that constitutes harrassment,(if that's how it's spelt)because unless convictions are made then they are completely innocent until prove otherwise,or are you not familiar wit the innocent until proven guilty part of our law,or are you maybe a thicko who thinks he's a bad boy or maybe a bit thick!!!!(did you see what i did there???i used your post back on you,clever that wasn' it????)
SirFapsAlot
03-01-2010, 10:17 PM
^^^
I'm thinking more like 'The Condemmed' ... except nobody gets out alive ;)!
Battle Royal was the original. Well it was the first to use the idea anyway I think.
Sengoku
05-01-2010, 08:55 PM
ttt
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Stubbsy
05-01-2010, 11:46 PM
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Lol I love these guys who like to fan the flames and sit back and watch the shitstorm.
Maybe the Butlins are that good criminals they don't get charged. I know folk bang on about being innocent til proven guilty but if you knew a guy who had been arrested twenty times for theft and never charged (or always found innoicent in court) would you still trust this bloke around your valued possessions?
I bet Ian Butlin has a lawyer like the one Monty Burns has on the simpsons. Or maybe a massive panel of lawyers that run to his rescue when he is arrested almost daily, without fail, for no reason at all.
Jamie Taylor
06-01-2010, 01:31 AM
Do you reckon if one of the local bobbies hated someone that much he could get away with dumping the creatine and whacking a load of coke in it saying it's what he found ? I know it's been done before but surely there's some sort of rules in place nowadays to make it hard for them to do. It's a scary thought.
Stubbsy
06-01-2010, 04:32 PM
Well the Butlins haven't come on and had a go at everyone who is denying that the pigs harrass people at random. This means one thing, they are both locked up at present ... for nothing.
Jimmy Boogaloo
06-01-2010, 04:55 PM
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ross90
06-01-2010, 05:49 PM
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Hmm, good point......I agree!
Sengoku
07-01-2010, 01:06 AM
ttt
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