View Full Version : essential lifts for fighters
tommylaughlin
02-01-2010, 11:54 AM
ive not got time to lift as much as id like with work and trying to train boxing and grappling.gonna cut my gym sessions down to either 3 days a week or 5 40 minute sessions cut out some lifts i had been doing.what lifts should i be doing weekly with limited time people? aim is to get stronger and step in the cage this year and make a name for myself
LouieJ
02-01-2010, 12:16 PM
Fuck ya bench press off. Saves time and you dont really use chest muscles for punching or grappling do you. Unless your vain no need for big abs. There is loads you could do but afew suggestions are.......
Working your shoulders and arms with high reps will help the endurance of your punching.
Thighs and legs. I'd go for more low reps higher weights. You want power here, this is where you'll be keeping people in guard so you want it as strong as possible. Powerful kicking also.
One of the best lifts all round are the Clean and Jerk. Think it should be incorporated in any weights you do.
thaison
02-01-2010, 02:23 PM
Thats a fairly legit question from some one with a track record of posting shit tommy, new years resolution to stop being a cock is it?
Stay away form isolated lifts, go for olympic lifts or compound lifts, if its strength your lifting for start with 3 sets of 3 then include some periodisation into your programme to ensure progression
thaison
02-01-2010, 02:24 PM
and get the technique down before trying to lift to heavy, wouldnt want you getting injured ...
lewdog29
02-01-2010, 04:37 PM
Lower limb Vertical: Bulgarian split squat, Snatch grip deadlift
Lower limb Horzontal: Shoulder Elevated Hip Lift, Sled Push
Upper limb Vertical: Pull ups, DB Shoulder press
Upper limb Horizontal: Inverse row, DB Bench Press
Justin Devonshire
04-01-2010, 05:08 PM
Stay away form isolated lifts, go for olympic lifts or compound lifts, if its strength your lifting for start with 3 sets of 3 then include some periodisation into your programme to ensure progression
I'd second that. Great advice if you want to get strong. Just keep it simple, but work on gradually making it more specific to combat (more single-arm / single-leg variations etc.) as you go through the weeks.
If you want an even simpler answer - I'd say to start deadlifting. There's no other exercise that will get you stronger for MMA in one lift (it'll give you hip mobility, grip strength, upper back strength, shoulder stabilization and isometric strength in one go).
KidKimura
04-01-2010, 08:46 PM
you dont really use chest muscles for punching or grappling do you.
Yes of course you do! Bench press is one of the most important lifts IMO.
There was a good article a few months back in Fighters Only on strength training by Paul McVeigh. I use mainly the kind of compound lifts he wrote about, bench, squat, deadlifts, weighted pull ups, bulgarian split squats, and hanging cleans.
I throw in some endurance stuff as well.
samurai69
05-01-2010, 08:53 AM
I would go with
hang cleans
hang snatches
power shrugs
floor pullover and press to bridge
plyo squat or plyo split squat
deadlifts
with any lifting get technique right first and build up weight gradually, but even more important with polyo type work
if you have time work on tru olympic lifts, if not stick with the "hang" work
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MikeyL
05-01-2010, 09:22 AM
Deads (and all variations)
Squats (and all variations)
Hang cleans
Bench Press
Military Press
Dips
Pull ups
Stretch and foam roll the shit out of everything
Bateman
05-01-2010, 09:59 AM
Keep it Basic , look to get yourself some 'bands' and a medicine ball. The bands you can take any place , even work and do some short 20 band work outs in your lunchtime.
Dave78
05-01-2010, 10:42 AM
Deads (and all variations)
Squats (and all variations)
Hang cleans
Bench Press
Military Press
Dips
Pull ups
Stretch and foam roll the shit out of everything
Scuze my ignorance Mikey....foam roll??? :confused:
1inchPonch
05-01-2010, 12:39 PM
Scuze my ignorance Mikey....foam roll??? :confused:
Yup, it's used for self myofascial release. Type it into google or you tube for more info. Basically it's the same as getting a deep muscle tissue massage.
taffdragon
05-01-2010, 01:47 PM
Fuck ya bench press off. Saves time and you dont really use chest muscles for punching or grappling do you. Unless your vain no need for big abs. There is loads you could do but afew suggestions are.......
Working your shoulders and arms with high reps will help the endurance of your punching.
Thighs and legs. I'd go for more low reps higher weights. You want power here, this is where you'll be keeping people in guard so you want it as strong as possible. Powerful kicking also.
One of the best lifts all round are the Clean and Jerk. Think it should be incorporated in any weights you do.
might be a mistake to leave out benching if your working all the surrounding muscle groups. you could end up with some kind of imbalance that could cause problems in the future. better to train the body as a whole unit.
Nak-Muay
05-01-2010, 02:01 PM
Bicep Curls are by far the most important.
DanCrase
05-01-2010, 02:07 PM
Bicep Curls are by far the most important.
I was thinking the exact same thing.
Plus, lots of machine work; free weights are unnecessary
Nak-Muay
05-01-2010, 02:21 PM
I was thinking the exact same thing.
Plus, lots of machine work; free weights are unnecessary
Deffinetly need machines to assist your bicep curls. However there are exceptions when excluding free weights in that light pink dumbells between 2ibs and 5ibs can be used for 25-50 reps to really define your body and tone you up... which obviously makes you a much better fighter.
DanCrase
05-01-2010, 03:06 PM
Deffinetly need machines to assist your bicep curls. However there are exceptions when excluding free weights in that light pink dumbells between 2ibs and 5ibs can be used for 25-50 reps to really define your body and tone you up... which obviously makes you a much better fighter.
Don't forget all those sit ups; no one can hurt your body if you have a 6 pack!
mcgovern
12-01-2010, 12:30 PM
sqaut
deadlift
shoulder press- barbell or dumbells
30 mins posing in mirror is essential
20 mins on the stana stair lift
DanCrase
12-01-2010, 01:02 PM
sqaut
deadlift
shoulder press- barbell or dumbells
30 mins posing in mirror is essential
20 mins on the stana stair lift
aswell as 10 minutes on the sunbed, 3 x a week.
You can't look hard of you ain't got a tan!
mcgovern
12-01-2010, 02:25 PM
aswell as 10 minutes on the sunbed, 3 x a week.
You can't look hard of you ain't got a tan!
defo sun bed and fake tan, for that tango look
DanCrase
12-01-2010, 04:45 PM
defo sun bed and fake tan, for that tango look
Then bring back Cage Rage and you'll be a main eventer for life!
Rob T
12-01-2010, 04:52 PM
Then bring back Cage Rage and you'll be a main eventer for life!
Don't be silly, you would also need tattoos!
DanCrase
12-01-2010, 05:02 PM
Don't be silly, you would also need tattoos!
Ofcourse! involving tribal imagery and barbed wire; it makes you EXTRA legit if you're a white guy with no tribal roots at all!
mcgovern
12-01-2010, 05:27 PM
Don't be silly, you would also need tattoos!
and some home made tattoos.
DanCrase
12-01-2010, 05:39 PM
You can also get a '+1 Toughguy' boost if you use a razor to shave a little line in your eyebrow to look like a scar
mcgovern
13-01-2010, 06:49 PM
what about wearing a massive neck chain and thai shorts,
OHarra
15-01-2010, 04:08 PM
Deadlift, Bench Press, Squats
Low reps (5 to 1) for strength
High reps (15 to 20) for endurance
Don't bother with rep range 8 to 12
the jabroni
29-01-2010, 06:15 PM
Do almost the same as MikeyL but have to miss the dead's out cause my back won't take them -
I Do Each for 4 Sets - Max 4 reps working upto 1-2 Rep Max:-
Clean and Press
Bench Press
Barbell Curl
Squat
Weighted Chins
Weights Dips
Once a week.
Rich
the jabroni
29-01-2010, 06:23 PM
aswell as 10 minutes on the sunbed, 3 x a week.
You can't look hard of you ain't got a tan!
Couldn't agree more!
Jamie Taylor
29-01-2010, 10:08 PM
LOL @ Barbell curl. Mad you Rich.
If you absolutely must do bar curls ( and I know you do ) You should do some heavy negatives or some static stuff, way better than doing standard curls IMO.
DanCrase
29-01-2010, 10:10 PM
what about wearing a massive neck chain and thai shorts,
That one only really works if you're black
the jabroni
29-01-2010, 10:12 PM
shit my cover is blown.............anyway you told me to do them ;)
If i don't do em i look skinny in clothes, and with me being single and trying to attract women by any means, i need to keep on top of my biceps lol
Jamie Taylor
30-01-2010, 12:20 AM
Hahaha no you dont you mad cunt. Try having my fuckin pipecleaner arms.
If you want big arms, eat and squat. Or at least hammer your triceps seeing as though they make up most of your arm and will make your arms look bigger for your little gash hunting adventures.
Bicep curls = waste of time and you know it.
Also girls dont give a fuck about biceps nowadays. Just wear skinny jeans, some old converse, get some colour in your hair maybe spike it up, oh and get some sort of facial piercing. The fanny will be hangin off ya in no time pal trust me.
DanCrase
30-01-2010, 12:41 AM
Also girls dont give a fuck about biceps nowadays. Just wear skinny jeans, some old converse, get some colour in your hair maybe spike it up, oh and get some sort of facial piercing. The fanny will be hangin off ya in no time pal trust me.
Taylor, sadly (and, trust me; I mean fucking SADLY) speaks the truth
mcgovern
30-01-2010, 07:02 PM
Hahaha no you dont you mad cunt. Try having my fuckin pipecleaner arms.
If you want big arms, eat and squat. Or at least hammer your triceps seeing as though they make up most of your arm and will make your arms look bigger for your little gash hunting adventures.
Bicep curls = waste of time and you know it.
Also girls dont give a fuck about biceps nowadays. Just wear skinny jeans, some old converse, get some colour in your hair maybe spike it up, oh and get some sort of facial piercing. The fanny will be hangin off ya in no time pal trust me.
richie would not get any fanny , he would only end up looking like one, EMO DALE
the jabroni
30-01-2010, 08:05 PM
Hahaha no you dont you mad cunt. Try having my fuckin pipecleaner arms.
If you want big arms, eat and squat. Or at least hammer your triceps seeing as though they make up most of your arm and will make your arms look bigger for your little gash hunting adventures.
Bicep curls = waste of time and you know it.
Also girls dont give a fuck about biceps nowadays. Just wear skinny jeans, some old converse, get some colour in your hair maybe spike it up, oh and get some sort of facial piercing. The fanny will be hangin off ya in no time pal trust me.
HAHAHAHAHAH funny as fuck mate!
the jabroni
30-01-2010, 08:05 PM
"EMO Dale - the self harmer", thats my new quest in life! haha
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