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Malcontent
06-01-2010, 11:20 PM
Well, is there?

Can you name a fight that was won through a lucky punch?

jayman2606
07-01-2010, 12:46 AM
Rahman when he knocked out Lewis? I know that it didn't literally come out of nowhere. Obviously Lewis was not prepared properly and made the mistake of underestimating his opponent.

I see what I suspect you might be getting at though...as in something may be unexpected but "lucky" is a big word to use in this context.

Hands Of Stone
07-01-2010, 12:56 AM
Can't remember the fight, but it was about two years ago in the UFC and someone got hurt badly with a body shot but still managed to throw a last ditch hook when his opponant closed in to finish it. Neither lucky/unlucky depending on view but a classic 'pulling the win out from the jaws of defeat'.

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Stalkachu
07-01-2010, 01:11 AM
Pete Sell / Scott Smith

http://www.mmatko.com/pete-sell-vs-scott-smith-fight-video-tuf-4/

Just being nosy and helpful. ^_^

Take care,

Stalks

Hands Of Stone
07-01-2010, 01:24 AM
Cheers for that. Cracking fight...

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dawson
07-01-2010, 08:33 AM
Scott smith just did the same to cung le in strikeforce all the more impressive due to the calibre of opponent!

dunny
07-01-2010, 07:06 PM
i dont think there is such a thing as a lucky punch, if a trained fighter means to throw it, and it lands, how is it lucky?

Atlasmma
07-01-2010, 10:49 PM
I enjoy that Scott Smith's nickname is 'Hands of steel' and Hands of stone forgot who it was. That wasn't so much a lucky shot, as Sell was running at him with his hands down and Scott Smith is a baaaaaaaaad man.

I think what people call lucky punches kind of are lucky, because it's a rarity when a miles better fighter makes a mistake and a miles worse fighter just happens to be doing the right thing to capitalise on it. It's not so much that the rubbish fighter didn't mean it, just that he probably didn't throw it with the conviction that his oponent would be making that mistake, which some people see as a rip off.

Wiegieboard
08-01-2010, 12:36 AM
LOL @ Lucky punch.

There's only poor defence.

Grizzly.
08-01-2010, 09:06 AM
Theres no such thing as a lucky punch, you throw punches to hit your opponent, if it connects after getting battered for 3 rounds and you win by KO its not a lucky punch, like wiegie said its just poor defence on the other guys part.

Bateman
08-01-2010, 09:55 AM
Fedor v Arlovski , that last punch was lucky....

Grizzly.
08-01-2010, 10:20 AM
^ No it wasn't Arlovski had that fight won, and he chose to jump in with the knee and get tagged, Fedor threw it with intent to land and it did. He deserved to win the fight on that basis, if Arlovski kept his feet grounded, he wins the fight.

Bateman
08-01-2010, 11:01 AM
^ No it wasn't Arlovski had that fight won, and he chose to jump in with the knee and get tagged, Fedor threw it with intent to land and it did. He deserved to win the fight on that basis, if Arlovski kept his feet grounded, he wins the fight.

Fedor through that punch in defence, he was lucky as fuck it connected how it did. That wasnt a planned strike or any part of a well drilled combo , how do you drill something like that then ? He got very lucky , it wasnt timed or any of that shit, he got lucky. fair play

Plastikman
08-01-2010, 02:28 PM
Fedor through that punch in defence, he was lucky as fuck it connected how it did. That wasnt a planned strike or any part of a well drilled combo , how do you drill something like that then ? He got very lucky , it wasnt timed or any of that shit, he got lucky. fair play

It was the same punch he threw to finish rogers. Was that luck too?

BlueRabbit
08-01-2010, 03:50 PM
Fedor through that punch in defence, he was lucky as fuck it connected how it did. That wasnt a planned strike or any part of a well drilled combo , how do you drill something like that then ? He got very lucky , it wasnt timed or any of that shit, he got lucky. fair play

That punch was timed to perfection! he caught AA in mid-air.

Wiegieboard
08-01-2010, 04:06 PM
Fedor through that punch in defence, he was lucky as fuck it connected how it did. That wasnt a planned strike or any part of a well drilled combo , how do you drill something like that then ? He got very lucky , it wasnt timed or any of that shit, he got lucky. fair play

Throwing back when you're in a bad situation like that is something that is taught and drilled. Average Joe in the same situation would just curl up into a ball. Arlovski wasn't defending right, and got tagged.

Hands Of Stone
08-01-2010, 04:38 PM
Genuine clean link...

Lucky punch ? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=los_c-DQBe4&feature=response_watch)
Similar. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuwAqV8eGbo&annotation_id=annotation_443765&feature=iv)

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jimtattoo
11-01-2010, 11:38 PM
julian jackson was told he had a round to finish bomber graham, had to change stance to see. he was lucky bomber graham played into his hands,and had no defence when he threw the punch that koed him. some called that a lucky punch. mabye they should be called fortunate punches

Bateman
12-01-2010, 09:38 AM
It was the same punch he threw to finish rogers. Was that luck too?

true , but rogers wasnt flying through the air , plus Rogers hadnt drilled hands with Freddie Roach for a few months.

crw
16-01-2010, 06:37 PM
^ No it wasn't Arlovski had that fight won, and he chose to jump in with the knee and get tagged, Fedor threw it with intent to land and it did. He deserved to win the fight on that basis, if Arlovski kept his feet grounded, he wins the fight.

You really think Arlovski was winning? He may have thrown more but very little connected when you watch it back.
Back to the thread, no such thing as a lucky punch, just poor defence as said in another post.

Iconoclast
16-01-2010, 10:50 PM
I don't think Fedors punch against AA was lucky, but I do think that AA was winning up until that point.

Darkne$s
16-01-2010, 11:06 PM
You really think Arlovski was winning? He may have thrown more but very little connected when you watch it back.
Back to the thread, no such thing as a lucky punch, just poor defence as said in another post.

I really think he was winning and if there is such a thing as a lucky punch that was it.
FFS he didnt even look, he just threw it and happened to hit.

Bateman
18-01-2010, 10:10 AM
I really think he was winning and if there is such a thing as a lucky punch that was it.
FFS he didnt even look, he just threw it and happened to hit.

100 % with this ....

FlyingTriangle
18-01-2010, 04:04 PM
Plastikman, in the smith vs sell fight dunno if youve seen it, but smith pretends to be injured. then throws a shot that ko's sell.
Was that a cheap shot or is that allowed because it was in a cage?

foxy
18-01-2010, 04:09 PM
Plastikman, in the smith vs sell fight dunno if youve seen it, but smith pretends to be injured. then throws a shot that ko's sell.
Was that a cheap shot or is that allowed because it was in a cage?

I Dont think that was a cheap shot mate i think he was genuinely hurt from a body shot, and then came up with a rocky balboa moment that KO'd sell

Quality ending to the fight but defo not a cheap shot if i remember right mate

FlyingTriangle
18-01-2010, 04:16 PM
I Dont think that was a cheap shot mate i think he was genuinely hurt from a body shot, and then came up with a rocky balboa moment that KO'd sell

Quality ending to the fight but defo not a cheap shot if i remember right mate

Please tell me your joking. Ive watched that fight so many times and i seriously dont believe scott was injured at all.

foxy
18-01-2010, 04:24 PM
not joking

Plastikman
18-01-2010, 04:26 PM
Plastikman, in the smith vs sell fight dunno if youve seen it, but smith pretends to be injured. then throws a shot that ko's sell.
Was that a cheap shot or is that allowed because it was in a cage?

Did smith also pretend to collapse after throwing the shot?

(Even if you're ridiculous point was correct, smith and sell had agreed to fight, you on the other hand told a guy you didnt want to fight then nailed him when he turned away. There's a difference)

FlyingTriangle
18-01-2010, 05:22 PM
Lol, I cannot even be bothered today.

Plastikman
18-01-2010, 05:24 PM
Lol, I cannot even be bothered today.

Your most worthwhile post to date.

hairymachine
19-01-2010, 02:08 PM
The punch cannot possibly be lucky. The opponent jumping in to it, can be. (obviously sometimes the puncher may of timed the 'jump in to it' though, in this case.. its not lucky, just the 'jumper' getting owned (Fedor - Arlovski)

And Arlovski was undoubtly winning the fight before the KO..