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pow3r
15-03-2010, 03:22 PM
In my eyes floyd has got 2 be in top 3 greatest of all time.I don't understand why he dunt get the respect he deserves.people say he ducks fighters but let me go through ,at super feather he beat the top guy wiv ease diego corrales the at lightweight in the second fight easy beat castillo who were number 1,after that he moved again beating gatti who at the time was at number 2 but wiv kosta takin a break were the best possible opponent.that's 3 weights v there top guy.off to welter he took on number 2 zab judah and 4 8 rounds made hum look like a amatuer.nxt up number 1 baldomir who isn't realy outstanding but ring had him there champ,mayweather toyed wiv him and won every round.nxt up to light middle which is 154 pounds,nayweather beat the best from 130 -147 and fancied his chances v a future hall of famer at de la hoya natural weight who just came of 1 of his best wins and beat him.so that's 5 weights fighting there top guys at there normal weight.(Not like pacquai who made oscar go 2 147 and cotto 2 145).his nxt 2 fight were easy he made hatton and marquez look like normal british level fighters.in my opinion he dodges no 1 and can't wait 2 c him fight pacquai ,I rec he makes him look ordinary as pacquai gets hit far 2 easy

GreekGod
15-03-2010, 04:08 PM
Totally agree man.. He'd Literally Destroy Pacman aswell, Anyone can say what they like but Mosely poses a greater threat to Mayweather than Pacquioa due to their fighting styles. Pacman would come out punching against Mayweather and he wouldn't be able to land many punches due to his Amazing Defense, but Mayweather would counter-punch him all day and do the same that he did to Marquez, who actually oughta have WON and not drew against Pacquiao..




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pow3r
15-03-2010, 04:36 PM
V clottey pacquai kept getting hit wiv clotteys lead right hand,well when he did throw it.mayweather loves that shot.I rec the fight will happen they've just built probally biggest paying fight ever even bigger

ross90
15-03-2010, 07:26 PM
I think anybody who doesn't give fighters at this level respect, is a complete tool. They've put the hours in, out running on the roads, down the gym etc. Fought people and beat them. Somebody like mayweather needs to have peoples utmost respect, and he has mine. But so does Pacqiao. I think the fight will be very very good. However I agree Pacqiao does walk into some shots, and this is where Mayweather will pick up on it. And Mayweathers shots aren't ones you can just shrug off like he may have been able to with other fighters.

Awaiting the fight with baited breath.

LouieJ
15-03-2010, 11:02 PM
Diego Corralles actually struggled to make the weight
Jose Luis Castillo, decent but was not the best around.
Arturo Gatti was coming towards the end of his career and had taken many beatings
Zab Judah had just come off a loss to Baldimir.
De La Hoya was past his best.
Ricky Hatton, uk limited.
Juan Manuel Marques was tiny in comparrison to MW, WAS OBVIOUS TO SEE.

His list looks good, and the names are very good, however, to be a legend Mayweather needs to box a genuine welter in their prime.

pow3r
16-03-2010, 08:22 AM
Diego Corralles actually struggled to make the weight
Jose Luis Castillo, decent but was not the best around.
Arturo Gatti was coming towards the end of his career and had taken many beatings
Zab Judah had just come off a loss to Baldimir.
De La Hoya was past his best.
Ricky Hatton, uk limited.
Juan Manuel Marques was tiny in comparrison to MW, WAS OBVIOUS TO SEE.

His list looks good, and the names are very good, however, to be a legend Mayweather needs to box a genuine welter in their prime.

If u look when mayweather fought these guys they were all at the top of there game in the top 10 pound 4 pound list.if u think about it mayweather not a nutural welter he's moved is body up 2 that.when he fights pacqaui and beats hium everyone will say he's not big enough which is bullshit.wot he done wiv marquez was great 2 watch he oiut boxed him 4 12 rounds without using his extra weight.mayweather is going 2 be remembered as a all time great.add mosley and pacqaui 2 his list and who else is ther realy 4 him 2 fight he wud of cleaned up 5 weights tell me another fighter who gone undefeated doing that

Jimmy Boogaloo
16-03-2010, 02:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHmCYlIsX5E

What do you reckon of the points made in this? ^^^

... apart from the fact that the host was incredibly rude as he made his points. Calling Mayweather a motherfucker. Blimey.

Chris Clarke
16-03-2010, 03:54 PM
He would not beat Pacman.

pow3r
16-03-2010, 04:12 PM
He would not beat Pacman.

U want 50 on it

Chris Clarke
16-03-2010, 06:06 PM
I would but the fight will never happen will it.

LouieJ
16-03-2010, 06:14 PM
If u look when mayweather fought these guys they were all at the top of there game in the top 10 pound 4 pound list.if u think about it mayweather not a nutural welter he's moved is body up 2 that.when he fights pacqaui and beats hium everyone will say he's not big enough which is bullshit.wot he done wiv marquez was great 2 watch he oiut boxed him 4 12 rounds without using his extra weight.mayweather is going 2 be remembered as a all time great.add mosley and pacqaui 2 his list and who else is ther realy 4 him 2 fight he wud of cleaned up 5 weights tell me another fighter who gone undefeated doing that

Did you not read my list,:rolleyes: Diego Corralles was probably the most at his prime at the time. Arturo Gatti was coming towards the end of his career and had taken many beatings so was no were near the top of his game. Judah had been beat by Balodimir so wasnt at the top. De La Hoya was way past his best. Ricky Hatton is shite. Juan Manuel Marques was not the best around at the time.
As I have said, show me a fighter he has beat who has been genuinly the same weight and are in their peak.

Ian23
16-03-2010, 06:14 PM
God damn if floyd beats shane then floyd - pac would be the biggest boxing fight ever, it would be insane!

Ian23
16-03-2010, 06:18 PM
Did you not read my list,:rolleyes: Diego Corralles was probably the most at his prime at the time. Arturo Gatti was coming towards the end of his career and had taken many beatings so was no were near the top of his game. Judah had been beat by Balodimir so wasnt at the top. De La Hoya was way past his best. Ricky Hatton is shite. Juan Manuel Marques was not the best around at the time.
As I have said, show me a fighter he has beat who has been genuinly the same weight and are in their peak.

ricky hatton is shite? no he was made to look shite because floyd was just that much better. anyone can make any list of fighters look bad if you really try, lets look at pacs past few opponents

oscar - past his best
hatton - shite, past his best
cotto - destroyed by marg
clottley - beaten by cotto so wasn't at the top

LouieJ
16-03-2010, 07:37 PM
ricky hatton is shite? no he was made to look shite because floyd was just that much better. anyone can make any list of fighters look bad if you really try, lets look at pacs past few opponents

oscar - past his best
hatton - shite, past his best
cotto - destroyed by marg
clottley - beaten by cotto so wasn't at the top


Am not making them look shite. The fact is Mayweather has always had the upper hand in all them fights. The boxers are either not in their prime or he has weighed heavier. He has never fought a geniune welter in their prime.
I didnt know this was a MW vs Pacman debate but if you want to compare, Pacman fights anyone irrespective of size and weight. And let me just state that if the Pacman vs MW fight happens I'd be rooting for Mayweather, but am not blind to his fooling.

In the past Mayweather has shunned margarito,williams, cotto, pacman and mosely, until now.

pow3r
16-03-2010, 07:51 PM
Am not making them look shite. The fact is Mayweather has always had the upper hand in all them fights. The boxers are either not in their prime or he has weighed heavier. He has never fought a geniune welter in their prime.
I didnt know this was a MW vs Pacman debate but if you want to compare, Pacman fights anyone irrespective of size and weight. And let me just state that if the Pacman vs MW fight happens I'd be rooting for Mayweather, but am not blind to his fooling.

In the past Mayweather has shunned margarito,williams, cotto, pacman and mosely, until now.
Margarito got battered off mosley mosley got battered off forrest who wasn't in same league as mayweather cotto got battered of margariro and pacqaui got beat off morales and in my eyes marquez.that leaves williams who got beat of quintana.there will always be a excuse why mayweather beat them and its by pure skill.he's the best at what he does and beat all comers no matter wot.undeafeated in 40

LouieJ
16-03-2010, 08:16 PM
Which is why all them mentioned are not the greatest, just as Mayweather dont deserve the accolade.
The origional post stated he should be in the top 3 or ALL TIME.

NO CHANCE.

Chris Clarke
16-03-2010, 09:01 PM
Considering that Boxing hosts the likes of Sugar Ray Robinson (Greatest ever period), Muhammed Ali, Roberto Duran, Sugar Ray Leonard, Rocky Marciano, Joe Lewis, Tommy Hearns, Marvin Hagler etc etc in its Hall of Fame and the fights were more brutal longer and with thinner gloves I would have to say that Mayweather is not in the top 5 greatest of all time, thankyou and good night.

pow3r
16-03-2010, 09:15 PM
boxing 2day is far betta today more fitter betta defence much bigger.technically betta.so the size of gloves doesnt matter,every 1 has own opinion but in my eyes mayweather is great.if he wasnt in boxing now it would be pretty shit.and mayweather has never been in a bloody war coz hes that good.as they say its sweet science and mayweather has it 2 a fine art.no point being rich if u end up like ali

Chris Clarke
16-03-2010, 09:25 PM
If Mayweather wasn't in Boxing it wouldn't be shit at all, people just wouldn't know who he was, they would idolise people like Pacman, Cotto, Shane and the Klitchkos for being good fighters, kind of like they do now.

GreekGod
17-03-2010, 04:40 PM
Mayweather has done a LOT more for boxing than allmost anyone around now. Pacquiao I agree has done a fair amount but not before Mayweather had. Personally I think they're both amazing and it would be a heck of a fight.. Mayweather would take the win imo but that oughta take nothing away from Pacquiao. If he did indeed beat Pacquiao after he beats Mosley & then I do believe he oughta be Top 10 best of all time and maybe considered Top 5.. but untill the superfight happens NEITHER of them oughta be considered one of the Best of all time.

Just to clarify, whom ever says Marquez isn't one of the best at this time is a fool.. Juan Manuel Marquez is amazing and was extremmelly unlucky to take atleast one decision against Paqcuiao.



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Josh H
21-03-2010, 08:49 PM
Around 05-06, there was a real buzz around the 140 and 147lb divisions, you had loads of top guys coming through - some real scary welterweights! Mayweather was very carefull in his selection of opponents, he's obviously an awesome talent, nobody can say otherwise, but he fights guys that are too small, or just a little past their prime. He talks bad about so many fighters yet he never fights them, he says they're boring and he's forever making racist remarks. Look back to the Hagler,Hearns, Duran, Leonard era - those were the days