Running Thread

[CraigSt.Clair]

So did my first run of the summer tonight and just mapped it on MapMyRun.com

It was 4.8 miles, didn't sprint like, took about an hour, including about 5 minuites of stretching half way through. I am never sure if my times are alright or not lol so just to aleviate my fears lets post up our runs, distances and rough times :D

Or alternatively this will fail miserably lol

[Ian23]

I had been running 6 times a week, hated every second of it as i pushed myself to a near heart attack everytime! I suffered with shin splints but they seemed to clear up and 3/4 weeks ago i damaged a tendon and haven't been able to run since :( Really gutted as i had a marathon coming up which i was really looking forward to.

Hill runs are the best, i drive up dartmoor some weekends and just run along the roads. very quiet and you get great views along with some brutal hills.

[CraigSt.Clair]

I had been running 6 times a week, hated every second of it as i pushed myself to a near heart attack everytime! I suffered with shin splints but they seemed to clear up and 3/4 weeks ago i damaged a tendon and haven't been able to run since :( Really gutted as i had a marathon coming up which i was really looking forward to.

Hill runs are the best, i drive up dartmoor some weekends and just run along the roads. very quiet and you get great views along with some brutal hills.

Nice mate!

Not the injuries tho thats brutal.

So is my time ok? :confused:

[Wiegieboard]

I hillrun every year and last year did a few really good mountains whilst fellrunning on the isle of Skye.
The first few runs of the season always see my gastrocs and soleus playing catchup. I never run on concrete or road choosing instead to stick to dirt tracks and across fields etc. Being 15 stone with the bone structure of a wee lassie, I fear the roads.
I'm nothing special at running but I love the change that running brings about with regards to the way I feel.

[ross90]

So did my first run of the summer tonight and just mapped it on MapMyRun.com

It was 4.8 miles, didn't sprint like, took about an hour, including about 5 minuites of stretching half way through. I am never sure if my times are alright or not lol so just to aleviate my fears lets post up our runs, distances and rough times :D

Or alternatively this will fail miserably lol

everyone has to start somewhere fella. The only way your time is unnacceptable is if its worse than the last time you went In my opinion. Even if its just a second or two, it means you tried that little bit harder.

I ran my first run a couple of days ago, 3 miles, 25 minutes. was blowing out my arse. Did another today and got 23.40 which is a good improvement, Im building myself back up slowly, because injury is very real, and it just happens suddenly.

I was running 5 times a week, and covering 3 mile in 18 minutes, 4 mile in 25.30 (roughly) all the way up to 8 mile in around 50 something minutes. 8 Is the highest i went, that was my endurance run and i never did them very often. I used to try and average a 6 minute mile, but obviously the more tired i got that went out of the window lol.

Take it easy craig, running is brutal for the legs, so start off 1 run per week, let your body adjust, then step it up to 2 runs when you feel comfortable. Then worry about times, but I would be happy with that time mate. Now just build on it....

[spirez]

In my opinion, the only type of long distance running that has any worth for fighters is the stuff mentioned by Joel Jamieson in his book. Cardiac output work that targets specific heart rates to get a specific effect from the training.

Just going on a long run for the sake of it doesn't have much value for fighters, and even the specific cardiac work isn't something that needs to be used all the time.

Have a quick look through this article i wrote. It pretty much outlines Jamieson's principles in Ultimate MMA Conditioning.

http://graciebarrabirmingham.com/index.php/blog_output/217/

Train slow, be slow and all that.

Unless of course you aren't fighting and just like running!

[CraigSt.Clair]

everyone has to start somewhere fella. The only way your time is unnacceptable is if its worse than the last time you went In my opinion. Even if its just a second or two, it means you tried that little bit harder.

I ran my first run a couple of days ago, 3 miles, 25 minutes. was blowing out my arse. Did another today and got 23.40 which is a good improvement, Im building myself back up slowly, because injury is very real, and it just happens suddenly.

I was running 5 times a week, and covering 3 mile in 18 minutes, 4 mile in 25.30 (roughly) all the way up to 8 mile in around 50 something minutes. 8 Is the highest i went, that was my endurance run and i never did them very often. I used to try and average a 6 minute mile, but obviously the more tired i got that went out of the window lol.

Take it easy craig, running is brutal for the legs, so start off 1 run per week, let your body adjust, then step it up to 2 runs when you feel comfortable. Then worry about times, but I would be happy with that time mate. Now just build on it....

Aye me left knee is friggin killing today lol, stick at that for a few weeks :rolleyes:

I'll have a read of that the night Spirez cheers mate

[Wiegieboard]

In my opinion, the only type of long distance running that has any worth for fighters is the stuff mentioned by Joel Jamieson in his book. Cardiac output work that targets specific heart rates to get a specific effect from the training.

Just going on a long run for the sake of it doesn't have much value for fighters, and even the specific cardiac work isn't something that needs to be used all the time.

Have a quick look through this article i wrote. It pretty much outlines Jamieson's principles in Ultimate MMA Conditioning.

http://graciebarrabirmingham.com/index.php/blog_output/217/

Train slow, be slow and all that.

Unless of course you aren't fighting and just like running!

Absolutely agree with using a heart rate monitor. Best piece of kit I ever bought for running apart from my shoes.

[Romeoblood]

In my gym before MMA and Muay Thai traning we do a 2.5 mile run for a warm up, and sprints during the workout

I find it useful, and a bit better than just skipping

although skipping has its uses, its soul destroying, and very boring

my opinion is that running has its uses, if done in the correct way

[ross90]

In my opinion, the only type of long distance running that has any worth for fighters is the stuff mentioned by Joel Jamieson in his book. Cardiac output work that targets specific heart rates to get a specific effect from the training.

Just going on a long run for the sake of it doesn't have much value for fighters, and even the specific cardiac work isn't something that needs to be used all the time.

Have a quick look through this article i wrote. It pretty much outlines Jamieson's principles in Ultimate MMA Conditioning.

http://graciebarrabirmingham.com/index.php/blog_output/217/

Train slow, be slow and all that.

Unless of course you aren't fighting and just like running!

I just liked running fella lol.

Thats a very good article and i agree, heart rate monitors are a definate must to monitor if your working for MMA specific cardio. I can't afford one at the minute, but when i come to fight etc. I'll definately invest as they're a lot handier than people think.

I used to do a bit on the running machine. 5 minutes with my heart rate above 180, then back down for 2 minutes sort of thing. (maybe not them measurements, its a while since Ive used one)

Craig, take it easy pal, running is fucking hard to get used to, like i said, once a week. Maybe even step it down to 3 miles, thats all you need to be doing really. Then build up as you get more used to it, or you'll end up in an osteopaths office, limping.

Romeoblood - in with your warm up, if there is a hill near you, do sprints on it. I have a hill near me, must be 300 yds long to the top. I used to sprint up it, jog back down and repeat 3 times. Then 5 times as i got fitter, i felt as though i was going to throw my lung up. Even a short, very steep hill, calfs and lungs on fire afterwards. So not just flat sprints (although if you havent got a hill these are still awesome) Hill sprints are like X10. Just something to try if you get the chance fella.

[Romeoblood]

Ross90...

cheers for the advice, I do have a hill near me, its got steps up it, which is hand

it goes up in flights of 20, we do sprint 20, jog 20, sprint, jog, and so on to the top, then back down

its maybe 20 minutes total to get from top to bottom

its good extra carricular on top of MMA and thai training

plus our club does russian sambo, I'll be starting that next week

[ross90]

Ross90...

cheers for the advice, I do have a hill near me, its got steps up it, which is hand

it goes up in flights of 20, we do sprint 20, jog 20, sprint, jog, and so on to the top, then back down

its maybe 20 minutes total to get from top to bottom

its good extra carricular on top of MMA and thai training

plus our club does russian sambo, I'll be starting that next week

Step running is brutal as well. Try mixing it up and not running up the steps, just run up the slope sometimes as well. See how that goes. I think its best to keep your body guessing and mixing it up, I wish there was a russian sambo wrestling near me. I'm going to get a few wrestling sessions in this month i just need to manage my funds better.

[Wiegieboard]

The joys of heart rate monitors....

23 minute hillrun at 91% MHR

Was supposed to be a 20 minute HIIT session but ended up just a horrible big run uphill.

Thinking about it, would running based around times as opposed to distances be more appropriate for mma training?
With the new advances in GPS technology and sports equipment, wouldn't we be better off training for a specific time and always trying to improve our average speed (treadmill based) or distance (route based) over that time as opposed to picking a distance and trying to decrease our run time?