View Full Version : What elements mount up to knock-out power?
10-06-2010, 11:57 PM
Is it just muscle mass? Or just technique?
Or some of both or all of both?
Or is it down to your opponents chin?
I'm thinking its a blend of things but it's a good subject as i've seen alot of threads about fighters having/lacking knockout power. Interesting to see how people see this.
I feel hip movement helps.
11-06-2010, 12:13 AM
I'd say it's really a blend, brute strength and speed can make up for lack of technique and vice versa (to an extent, not completely), but having both while aiming well seems to be the best :)
11-06-2010, 12:20 AM
Technique. There is a guy at my gym who is 58kg and has perfect roundhouse kicks that knock the wind out of you at 50% power. His punches have the same effect too.
You need the technique and speed to be able to put yourself in a position to get the KO, it's not always going to be a huge opening.
11-06-2010, 12:45 AM
Strength, Power, Speed, Accuracy, Explosiveness
I dont think muscle mass is that great a factor, as you see plenty of wiry fighters with great power.
11-06-2010, 03:32 PM
Rampage Jackson on Sport Science. Good vid.
14-06-2010, 09:58 PM
Having knocked out nobody but having watched a lot of tape and studied a lot, my opinion is that accuracy is the biggest aspect, then technique, then power. If you don't throw your strikes with the proper technique, they will be "arm punches" or whatever, but using the body properly, throwing from the feet, through the hips and then rotating the body properly generates power.
14-06-2010, 10:42 PM
Timing is another important one. One of my favorate knockouts is when Chuck KOs Randy for the second (I think) time. He just cocks his right hands, waits for the perfect moment and throws it perfectly. Absolutely clinical.
Timing also means you could throw something when they aren't expecting it, and thats when people often get knocked out.
15-06-2010, 06:12 PM
elements to ko someone: my right hand
sorry for the fail post i only need one more to go up though :P
15-06-2010, 06:27 PM
Hang on, I think you’re missing the point…
Have you ever stopped and wondered first how someone gets knocked out? Is it the concussion? Or is it the sympathetic system? Or both? How do you actually knock someone out? What processes are involved, and how do you start those processes moving? And how do they differ depending on which body part that you are applying the knock out to?
I think that understanding the processes of being knocked out is needed before you can identify which elements are required to effect that knock out…
16-06-2010, 12:06 PM
The attainment of power has a fail safe mechanism. Most people who look to develop power will instantaneously start doing the wrong things and take them a different route. As smiler just mentioned there are many dimensions that are over looked. My simple equation to power is as follows:-
Precision + Speed = Power
However this bears no reality to puttting that into a real life sporting situation because of all the other variables involved e.g. timing, what your hitting, who your hitting, their movements, the type of strike involved, reflexes, things that happen way before an actual knock out, the control of an opponent, anticipation.
I believe that each person will discover their own truth about harnessing power but may find that it isn't power they need/their meaning will change. I know that sounds a bit wishy washy but thats the clearest I can make it without entering a whole discussion. Train hard and train smart y'all! :cool:
16-06-2010, 10:03 PM
natural strong tendons!....rocky marciano knocked guys out at high school when he was a teenager cos he was born like that...
what works in developing it is doing explosive exercises like clean an jerk/kettlebell snatch etc... to get ur muscle fibers explosive....sport specific! :)
30-06-2010, 01:25 PM
Kinetic linking is what causes the KO, everyone thinks it's the big biceps but no not at all. It's how you transfer the weight from your feet to the end of your fist. I'm very long and lean and I've scored 1 punch ko's in the ring and gym, I have always believed that a natural puncher is born not made, that's not to say you can't work on it. The long guys are the scariest types of punchers - Tommy Hearns is a perfect example, Deigo Corrales, Naz...
01-07-2010, 04:59 PM
Technique and Aim then Power.
You will get natural punchers and of course people with "strong" or "weak" chins but generally if you get someone right on the button with a good clean hit they are out.
05-07-2010, 10:31 PM
It all depends who you are punching I would think. Some people, as has been mentioned, will go down very easily others won't. I would think good technique, timing and explosive power. No point having big muscles if they can't do the job. Also, I think long arms definitely help! Sparring and fighting tall, long people is a nightmare for short arses like me!! :-)
Keep the training fight specific!
05-07-2010, 10:42 PM
the shots that they least expect are the ones that throw the brain in to danger they always get the knock out , also speed not so much power
06-07-2010, 08:14 PM
Be as relaxed as possible and don't try to punch 'at' your opponent, try to punch through him instead.
28-07-2010, 06:51 AM
Blogged on this yesterday...
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