Boxing's P4P Hardest Puncher?

[yorkshire gripper]

After reading a seperate thread about what generates KO power, I've decided to ask the above question. Now read it carefully, I don't want to see folk just writing about Heavyweights (although Ernie Shavers is ok) I mean across the whole 17 weight classes and throughout the history of boxing.
Tommy Hearns is in there, Julian Jackson, Gerald McClellan, Juan Manuel Lopez, Jimmy Wilde, Naz, Sam Langford, Kostya Tszyu, Sandy Saddler............ I wont keep naming them, I'll leave it up to everyone else.

[Jay]

Shavers was brutal.


I'll throw a few more in the mix:


Joe Louis, Mike Tyson, Marciano, Gatti, Pac Man



Edit as some more came to me:


Benn, Arguello, Trinidad, Mugabi

[Predator]

Foreman? But surely it has to be Tyson???

[grip_pimp]

Foreman? But surely it has to be Tyson???

I would bet that tyson hit harder than Foreman, Naz is a great shout as well, boy had some dig on him!

But P4P best ever has to be Drago..... No?

[jayjay]

sonny liston or evander

[Barracuda187]

I would bet that tyson hit harder than Foreman, Naz is a great shout as well, boy had some dig on him!

But P4P best ever has to be Drago..... No?

Foreman was thought to be one of the hardest punchers of his time, would have been interesting to set up a power test, I think he would have punched harder than Tyson. Julian Jackson sticks out to me as a particularly powerful and concussive puncher. Seeings we're looking at P4P ratio its remember that its relative power not absolute, that being said any boxer who has moved through and up weight catagories and continued to knock people out would demonstrate good power. I always like Teofilo Stevensona and Felix Savon! Have a good weekend people.

[para74]

Shavers no question

[Romeoblood]

Bredis Prescott has some crazy power on him

[boxingbrit]

P4P
Valero
Tito Trinidad
Jackson

[jayjay]

Bredis Prescott has some crazy power on him

yeah man he is underrated

[IceKid]

edwin valero hit fucking hard, r.i.p

[boxingbrit]

edwin valero hit fucking hard, r.i.p

Yeah, should of said. RIP:(

[jayjay]

Yeah, should of said. RIP:(

is he the one that killed his bird ?

[boxingbrit]

Yeah, it'd probably of been easier if he had just given her one of his left hooks

[hurricane]

Valero 27 fights.....27 ko's.

RIP.

[Ian23]

yeah man he is underrated

no he aint, beat bottom level fighters in colombia for a few years and then managed to beat khan but has since lost 2 and struggled

julian jackson has to be up there, nigel benn had awesome power to

[jayjay]

Yeah, it'd probably of been easier if he had just given her one of his left hooks

iv got a video of him dead in his cell lol fucked up or what

[Jollio]

Nigel Benn?

Benn v McCllelan epic battle two big punchers

[DoubleJab]

My vote goes to Tyson. Obvious I know but I've honestly never seen power like he used to generate, that shot he hit Burbeck with was absolutely brutal.

[thaison]

shavers is always near the top of these lists

[jayjay]

sonny had more power then tyson , plus tyson lost nearly every big fight he had , evander , lennex , buster , etc foreman had over 70kos biggest in boxing i think

[WARRINGTONCAGERAGER]

David Tua can bang...........I hope your joking when u said Prescott..

[boxingbrit]

Pretty sure Archie Moore has most tko/ ko's.

Shavers is a good pick

[Ian23]

sonny had more power then tyson , plus tyson lost nearly every big fight he had , evander , lennex , buster , etc foreman had over 70kos biggest in boxing i think

are you serious

1. tyson was WAY past his prime for lennox and evander

2. buster wasn't a big fight, it was meant to be a piss easy win for tyson but he had gone off the rails

3. he had loads of big fights before those 3, what about berbick when he became the youngest heavyweight champions ever? what spinks when he became the undisputed champion? etc. etc.

[yorkshire gripper]

Pretty sure Archie Moore has most tko/ ko's.

Shavers is a good pick

I'm glad Ageless Archie was mentioned, good call

[yorkshire gripper]

One thing to point out is that when everyone talks about Prescott, it's fair to say that he beat limited opposition in columbia and then took out a Glass-Jawed Over-rated Khan. No doubt that he can punch but in an interview I've read with Kevin Mitchell, he says that our local lad Carl Johanneson hit much much harder than Prescott. BTW that got me thinking.... Michael Katsidis?

[Romeoblood]

prescott didnt exactly have toi try when he beat khan, but that was nowhere near his best fight

he wiped the floor with like 18 guys, low level collumbians or not, he proper nailed them

also, katsidis is a good puncher as well though, I do agree there

[jayjay]

are you serious

1. tyson was WAY past his prime for lennox and evander

2. buster wasn't a big fight, it was meant to be a piss easy win for tyson but he had gone off the rails

3. he had loads of big fights before those 3, what about berbick when he became the youngest heavyweight champions ever? what spinks when he became the undisputed champion? etc. etc.

tyson had plenty of power against the knowbodys like bruno and a coulpe of old men past there sell by date he lost nearly all of the big fights he had and blams everybody else for his down fall fuck him rapeist who was a good boxer between 85 n 1990 had nothing on evander or foreman he couldnt even win a round against danny williams then he went against the irish mug who beat him and he bites evander and lost to him twice he is a poor mans sonny liston

[Ian23]

tyson had plenty of power against the knowbodys like bruno and a coulpe of old men past there sell by date he lost nearly all of the big fights he had and blams everybody else for his down fall fuck him rapeist who was a good boxer between 85 n 1990 had nothing on evander or foreman he couldnt even win a round against danny williams then he went against the irish mug who beat him and he bites evander and lost to him twice he is a poor mans sonny liston

jesus fucking christ

[yorkshire gripper]

jesus fucking christ

well said matey

[DoubleJab]

tyson had plenty of power against the knowbodys like bruno and a coulpe of old men past there sell by date he lost nearly all of the big fights he had and blams everybody else for his down fall fuck him rapeist who was a good boxer between 85 n 1990 had nothing on evander or foreman he couldnt even win a round against danny williams then he went against the irish mug who beat him and he bites evander and lost to him twice he is a poor mans sonny liston

None of that has any relevence to the TS question.

[boxingbrit]

Its not relevent or factually correct.

[jayjay]

Its not relevent or factually correct.

just makeing a point that he aint has good as sonny or foreman

[boxingbrit]

I would say at his peak he was better, he just fought on too far past it and was inactive too long. Being youngest ever world champ is a great achievement and a lot of it was down to his natural punch power

[jayjay]

I would say at his peak he was better, he just fought on too far past it and was inactive too long. Being youngest ever world champ is a great achievement and a lot of it was down to his natural punch power

yeah but my point was that the heavyweight division was poor when he won the title iv seen nearly every fight he has had he is my second best fighter but he got a easy ride until buster i think , when sunny and foreman won the title they had more of a challengs on there hands

[taebox]

david haye,acelino freitas,valero,corrie sanders

[Wiegieboard]

What are the thoughts on Nigel Benn?

[jayjay]

What are the thoughts on Nigel Benn?

was a good boxer better then hubank in my eyes did more in the states

[yorkshire gripper]

What are the thoughts on Nigel Benn?

A very good puncher - his fight with the G Man is awesome (although watching it and knowing the consequences of the bout does take the shine off it some what.)

[yorkshire gripper]

david haye,acelino freitas,valero,corrie sanders

Freitas is a great shout. I'll throw Deigo Corrales (RIP) into the mix, a very long rangey puncher, who did infact KO Freitas.

[Shauny_Boi]

Pac and Mayweather seem to have been left out alot what about these two guys, also no one had a better body shot power than Hatton in his prime, or the great Ali as knocking out Foreman wasn't easy like!

[yorkshire gripper]

Pac and Mayweather seem to have been left out alot what about these two guys, also no one had a better body shot power than Hatton in his prime, or the great Ali as knocking out Foreman wasn't easy like!

Pac is a great puncher, he really has carried it up through the weights. Mayweather on the other hand is never gonna be in anyone's list of big punchers. And Ali? A great fighter, not a great puncher. He didn't simply use brute strength to KO Foreman, he used a brilliant strategy to take away all of Foreman's advantages and rendered him unable to defend himself. Foreman's mother could have knocked him out at that point in the fight.

[mattyjudo]

Prince Naz. P4p his left cross was a f***ing sledgehammer

[DoubleJab]

Prince Naz. P4p his left cross was a f***ing sledgehammer

Yeah I agree Naz is a contender. Some of those shots he landed were brutal, he literally used to throw his whole weight behind them.