View Full Version : What is the purpose of long memorized padwork combos ?
Jamie Taylor
13-10-2010, 05:46 PM
You know like the mayweather ones. Apart from being flashy and looking cool why do people use them ? I'm assuming it's helping with hand speed and co-ordination but does it actually help ?
ross90
13-10-2010, 09:44 PM
You know like the mayweather ones. Apart from being flashy and looking cool why do people use them ? I'm assuming it's helping with hand speed and co-ordination but does it actually help ?
Stuff like this mate (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1eF154cJno)
I think its so your throwing different punches etc, but when your blocking, dodging, weaving and moving back and forwards.
Your watching for any movements or indication that he'll throw the shot, throwing yours, dodging/weaving, throwing another etc.
So i think its probably to sharpen up your movements as well as throwing shots. Obviously in a fight this is how it will be, not just you throwing them
dunny
13-10-2010, 09:54 PM
muscle endurance probably plays a part, plus i think its something like a kata in karate, imagine if you just blasted someone with a million punches, ones going to find its home (unless they just cover, in which case you'll look better than them anyway)
theres prob more reasons too
futuregreat
13-10-2010, 09:56 PM
its to keep there level up high with speed and movement just like drilling the same subs and throws in judo or bjj mate
Jamie Taylor
13-10-2010, 10:06 PM
It always struck me as kind of pointless with it being completely rehearsed. Like I said though I may be wrong and just want to understand why they are done and what exactly the benefits are of doing them, if they help I'd be willing to add them into training.
If my coach said ' right I want you hit what you see ( basic jabs, crosses and left hook, right cross and right cross left hook ) if i throw a hook, jab etc I want you to roll, slip...you get the idea. Then maybe working in some short counters ie. if I throw a left hook I want you to roll and fire a right cross left hook counter and vice versa). Wouldnt this be far better for developing speed, reflexes etc than just learning a ridiculously long string of blocks, counters and knowing exactly when the shots are coming ?
Thinking about I guess they would help as even though you know the punches are coming your developing your muscle memory and doing lots of reps of rolling, slipping etc autmatically making you better at doing said techniques.
I guess I kind of answered my own question. :D
Jamie Taylor
13-10-2010, 10:08 PM
its to keep there level up high with speed and movement just like drilling the same subs and throws in judo or bjj mate
Yeah I was just thinking that exact thing. Thanks for that mate, I understand a little more now.
And yes I can imagine it's good for muscular endurance as well.
mcgovern
13-10-2010, 10:18 PM
its main purpose is to keep the coach/ padman busy.
mattyjudo
14-10-2010, 08:55 PM
It always struck me as kind of pointless with it being completely rehearsed
For a lot of coaches, rehearsed routines are just part of the process leading towards the fighter being able to land on the pads just going on how the padman holds them. This (I've always supposed) is to help guys be able to spot and respond swiftly when a hole in their opponent's defence opens
boxingbrit
14-10-2010, 09:38 PM
A padman can use the exact same combinations but use his footwork to change the distance and direction of his opponent when landing those same combinations. Do them whilst moving backwards, throw counters in and amongst etc. I find pads very versatile
one of our boxing coachs has worked with them (team mayweather) and saw it live many times - i asked him the same question i.e why (in case i was missing something)
said its not just hand eye but he does it for 36 minutes to simulate 12 rds of the fight throwing constant punches with no rest so its a general cardio/hand eye/shoulder movement speed excercise - plus a bit of a chance to look good too....
he does proper pads also ie different combos moving etc etc etc but obviously the rehearsed combo is the bit that gets the attention as to the layman (and actually to most people) it looks amazing....
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