MMA Conditioning Coach Certification

[Lil J]

Hi

Has anyone done the "MMA Conditioning Coach Certification" with the MMA Conditioning Association?

If so what do they think

It looks quite indepth

[kyle90]

can you post up a link for this im interested thanks

[Emmet J]

Admittedly I've not seen anything to do with this, but am I the only person who thinks it smells of McDojo?

Do you have to send someone you've never heard of $1000 and then tell them you've done a bunch of stuff (even though they've never seen you do this and have no evidence of the fact) and then they send you a certificate?

[kyle90]

u think this may be a sketchy con then hmmm

[Emmet J]

Well, certificates are only worth anything if people recognise they are. If you want to send me some money I'll make you a really nice one, but nobody who knows anything about MMA is going to care what it says.

That said, if you actually end up learning a load of stuff on the 'course' then you might consider it worth the money. Nobody will care what the certificate says, but if you can show you know your stuff then people will listen to you.

[Lil J]

Hi Guys

This is the website

http://www.mixedmartialartsconditioningassociation.com/mma-conditioning-coach-training-details.html

[madjimmi]

Dont understand why youd need one ive done a exercise and fitness course nvq including anatomy and physiology at a local college which learns you to train all sorts of people, you just addapt it to the sport your doing

[Emmet J]

^ See, that would be an actually recognised qualification.

If you turned up to my club and said: "I've done an exercise and fitness course nvq including anatomy and physiology at a local college." I'd say: "good stuff, we can use what you've learned there and suit it to MMA."

If you turned up to my club and said: "I've done the MMA Conditioning Coach Certification with the MMA Conditioning Association." I (and most other people) would say: "what's that? And who are they?"

[CraigSt.Clair]

Dear god don't send any money, fuck me lol

[Emmet J]

Dear god don't send any money, fuck me lol

To be honest I'm shocked that you and I are the only older guys on here that are pointing this out.

[bobbyp]

John Spencer Ellis is the guy behind it.

I have Ian Butlin as a mutual friend...
http://www.facebook.com/johnspencerellis

[stapesmk1]

I think its fair to be cautious about all sorts of companies jumping on the MMA bandwagon and im always annoyed and sceptical when someone calls themself something really offical sounding and all encompassing like the national associtaion of etc etc. As if to barge in and shove the established companies or orgs out of the way.

With that said though, give the website a good look. Its VERY detailed, very well thought out, very impressive with lots of links to credible affiliates. If they are a con or dont know what they are preaching then they sure as hell do a good job of masking it. The site has style AND content, not just aesthetics. Go through to the facebook sites and read peoples feedback and look at vids and pics.

Id also say that there are a lot of poor quality courses or unsubstansive generic college courses out there that let any tom dick and harry train people in commercial gyms. The syllabuses for most of the traditional courses out there are out of date and it is far from as straight forward as is thought to apply things to MMA. Both MMA technique and the demands on conditioning in MMA are a still unique, new and evolving.

Thats not a dig at anyone by the way. When studying for my degree I took it up with my tutor when we were doing research and using BMI in the protocols. Even though this is 20-30yrs out of date and we had access to a bod-pod and water submergion facility to measure body fat! Point is sports science moves very fast and the majority of traditional academic courses are out of date before you even sit the exam. Not to mention they are too simplistic for the complex needs of MMA.

Stapes

[spirez]

I'd be very dubious of this, just as with the JC Santana one.

Bit of a marketing ploy in my opinion. Learn the solid foundations of strength and conditioning such as the ability to analyse the demands of a sport then apply methods to suit.

[stapesmk1]

Have you watched much of the Santana stuff or read any of his work? If so, what do you think?

Stapes