View Full Version : What are you working on at the moment in Your jiu jitsu game?
akiraB
03-06-2011, 01:25 PM
Me... woring on being tighter in dominant postions and passing open guard
Would be interesting to hear what the black belts are working on??
JC228
03-06-2011, 02:15 PM
Just a white belt but ... Passing open guard, as always. working from the top a bit more as I tend to play guard a bit much.
oddball
03-06-2011, 02:47 PM
Set ups for sweeps mainly from DLR/Combat base position etc ( Brown belt )
Simon Hayes
03-06-2011, 03:00 PM
Smashing people
wagon
03-06-2011, 03:44 PM
Smashing people
awesome :)
Sir Tapsalot
03-06-2011, 03:45 PM
Not getting smashed.
James
Rob T
03-06-2011, 04:05 PM
Everything I guess.
Hywel Teague
03-06-2011, 05:31 PM
Not getting smashed.
snap ^^^^^^
david5
03-06-2011, 07:31 PM
victor always tells me my technical knowledge of jiu jitsu is higher than my application ability, so just closing that gap really.
oh and smashing cats
Simon Hayes
03-06-2011, 10:47 PM
controlling the fight
markjitsu
04-06-2011, 12:04 AM
spending alot of time working on my spazzing ability just now, letting the guy get mount/side control/rear mount and then just spazzing as hard as i can
Jamie Taylor
04-06-2011, 12:56 AM
For me I'm working a lot of guard retention, fundemental guard passes and a tightening up my knowledge and application of basic collar/lapel chokes. (I'm fairly new to the gi but have done no-gi for a while). I'm really enjoying messing around with deep half guard too. Of course only being a blue belt I need a lot of work on everything but I feel these are my weakest areas at the minute.
It's pretty embarrassing to admit this but I have only recently got to the stage where I completely let go of my ego when I roll. I spent waaay too much time trying to 'win' rolls and doing everything in my power to get out of sub attempts etc...I would ALWAYS make the mistake of going for my 'a' game subs too in order to get the oh so important win (which is usually a triangle from whatever position). Now when I'm rolling with people of a similar level or lower I tell myself I won't go for any triangles before I roll and I force myself to try new things even if it means losing position which I find is working really well for me.
I am finally at the level where (with a willing and able partner) I could roll light for an hour easily whilst practising freshly learned passes/escapes etc and come away learning some valuable things. Rather than how I used to roll (5 mins of sheer spazzing and doing everything in my power to not let people out of my closed guard).
I apologise for boring the higher level belts who of course know this is common knowledge, but in my case it took so long for it to sink in. Now I'm trying to make other people understand and it's hard work but hopefully they won't take as long for it to sink in as it did into my thick skull :-)
Loving it more than ever now I have seen the light and I just have a burning desire to train in the gi every day even if it's just to drill techniques, it's just unfortunate most of my training partners don't like training in the gi or work strange times and are hardly ever available :-(
Hassan
04-06-2011, 11:14 AM
Passing guard and sweeps as i normaly play guard but dont do any sweeps for some reason.
Hombre
04-06-2011, 04:58 PM
Right now having a 'game' is the last thing on my mind. I'm just trying to develope good enough cardio to be able to finish a class.
Rob T
04-06-2011, 05:07 PM
My last post was short cos I was on my phone...
I got my brown belt the start of April then immediately had an operation on my nose so didn't roll for over a month after getting it. Since I've been back I've just been enjoying tapping people, haha... and getting tapped with toe-holds (by my instructor).
Stuff I want to work on specifically soon... a couple of new guard passes, back-takes and inverted/reverse triangles :)
TRIBULUS
04-06-2011, 10:16 PM
Strength and conditioning, Judo, a new sweep/back take type thing and some new guard passing.
ralphylad
06-06-2011, 12:27 AM
Half guard, sweeps, hook guard and getting smashed off Jamie T
Rōnin
06-06-2011, 12:35 AM
me ground work mainly
Manik
06-06-2011, 11:54 AM
being less shit
liamwandi
06-06-2011, 12:20 PM
For me I'm working a lot of guard retention, fundemental guard passes and a tightening up my knowledge and application of basic collar/lapel chokes. (I'm fairly new to the gi but have done no-gi for a while). I'm really enjoying messing around with deep half guard too. Of course only being a blue belt I need a lot of work on everything but I feel these are my weakest areas at the minute.
It's pretty embarrassing to admit this but I have only recently got to the stage where I completely let go of my ego when I roll. I spent waaay too much time trying to 'win' rolls and doing everything in my power to get out of sub attempts etc...I would ALWAYS make the mistake of going for my 'a' game subs too in order to get the oh so important win (which is usually a triangle from whatever position). Now when I'm rolling with people of a similar level or lower I tell myself I won't go for any triangles before I roll and I force myself to try new things even if it means losing position which I find is working really well for me.
I am finally at the level where (with a willing and able partner) I could roll light for an hour easily whilst practising freshly learned passes/escapes etc and come away learning some valuable things. Rather than how I used to roll (5 mins of sheer spazzing and doing everything in my power to not let people out of my closed guard).
I apologise for boring the higher level belts who of course know this is common knowledge, but in my case it took so long for it to sink in. Now I'm trying to make other people understand and it's hard work but hopefully they won't take as long for it to sink in as it did into my thick skull :-)
Loving it more than ever now I have seen the light and I just have a burning desire to train in the gi every day even if it's just to drill techniques, it's just unfortunate most of my training partners don't like training in the gi or work strange times and are hardly ever available :-(
Such an honest post. Well put dude.
Up until yesterday I was working on Sweeps from half guard and guard but after the 1/2 guard seminar with David Onuma we learned a (to me atleast) new way to approach the fundamentals of 1/2 guard so I'm going to do the usual thing and work on it for 6-8 months. Should be awesome!
Jimmy Boogaloo
06-06-2011, 12:39 PM
Such an honest post. Well put dude.
+1
...............
tritaffi
06-06-2011, 05:21 PM
Surviving the session , not blowing out of my arse as much ,with regards to rolling , do whatever the other white belts let me try and not sounding like a morse code machine with getting tapped as much by the coloured belts. Mainly to enjoy myself , not take it too seriously and not get injured.
seagull
06-06-2011, 07:34 PM
and not sounding like a morse code machine with getting tapped as much by the coloured belts.
:D Thats funny !
Jamie Taylor
06-06-2011, 10:29 PM
Such an honest post. Well put dude.
Up until yesterday I was working on Sweeps from half guard and guard but after the 1/2 guard seminar with David Onuma we learned a (to me atleast) new way to approach the fundamentals of 1/2 guard so I'm going to do the usual thing and work on it for 6-8 months. Should be awesome!
Thanks mate. Yeah I've recently completely changed how I play half guard. I used to be a 10th planet nut-hugger and since putting on a gi I literally used to just go straight into the lockdown and try to whip up for old school, plan b etc..
After swatting up on my dvds (most influential being helio sonecas, caio terras & jeff glovers) I've got so much more to work with. I'm loving messing around with options from the knee shield atm. I still need to chill out though and not try to learn too much too soon. I tell everybody to just pick 1 or max of 2 techniques and drill them but when I see a few different things I just have to try them all (I'm like a kid in a sweet shop) lol.
Good to see more half guard love getting thrown around here :D
JohnyBoy
07-06-2011, 08:04 AM
submission defance obviously noone can bang with me an now not many can get me down an working on not being submitted aswell lads so i can become the champ
Nenki
07-06-2011, 11:51 AM
Good to see more half guard love getting thrown around here :D
Check out Gordo's half guard dvd if you havent seen it dude. Really awesome instructional.
Romeoblood
07-06-2011, 06:45 PM
I'm returning to jits after a 6 week break through tomorrow, and will be working on not pulling guard, side control, and not using the triangle
maybe experiment with spiderguard for a bit, see how it works out for me
Jamie Taylor
07-06-2011, 09:27 PM
Check out Gordo's half guard dvd if you havent seen it dude. Really awesome instructional.
Had it recommended a few times but just not got round to grabbing it.
I'll check it out for sure.
Xanthic
08-06-2011, 04:00 PM
being less shit
Same.
Working on everything.
I've been really annoyed recently with struggling to fundamentally pass guard. It's from all the years wrestlespazzing and trying to blow past people.
Stalkachu
08-06-2011, 11:56 PM
Strength, conditioning and endurance primarily. Little bit of guard passing, little bit of inverted half-guard, little bit of reverse de la riva.
S'about it for now!
Daniel-San
11-06-2011, 12:20 PM
Establishing perfect posture in every position.
Simon Hayes
11-06-2011, 02:56 PM
^there speaks a man from Carlson Gracie.
Duchman
13-06-2011, 04:49 PM
recieving the full power and love of jesus christ. Note amost all top bjjers believe in our lord.
Working on a lose game a little bit, leaving my game plan a little bit. of flat him out, pass to half, side and sub.
or, pull guard, triangle or kicksweep.
Work on spider, bicep hook and reverse DL.
and grip strenght.
Related, but not to related. Trying to repair crohn's disease has done to me. trying to find out a diet, weight routine that will allow me to compete again and not make me sick and weak.
thai-jitsu
14-06-2011, 08:36 AM
Think im going against the grain of this thread but I already train without "ego" & try to only use stuff ive been working on. I competed at a no-gi at the weekend & during my matches I think I lacked the killer instinct & determination etc that the other competitors had. Was thinking this might be a training mentality thats followed me into the comp. BTW, purely due to training time I done the Advanced, but my grappling is no where near advanced :( !
Was thinking that during future training sessions id need to up the intensity on my sparring partners, go for Ws a bit more, while still working on what we've been practicing. I notice in training that I have trouble with ANYONE that really goes for it.
Do ya'll find that guys with "ego" in the gym do better ay comps? While the easier going guys find it more difficlut to find the killer instinct?
J-Sho
14-06-2011, 11:06 AM
Advanced BJJ statistics and facts.
Rob T
14-06-2011, 11:51 AM
You don't need ego to smash people.
lol at Jesus having anything to do with jiu-jitsu.
Temeura
14-06-2011, 11:58 AM
Jesus has a lot to do with most things brazilian. They love little baby jesus.
Jimmy Boogaloo
14-06-2011, 12:11 PM
Advanced BJJ statistics and facts.
any to share?
J-Sho
14-06-2011, 01:08 PM
any to share?
Erm, ok, off the top of my head, several ADCC champions and Mundials champions have fought in the UFC, but despite the Brazilian Hegemony in submission grappling, the only 2 ADCC Champs to win a UFC title and the only Black Belt Mundials champ to win a UFC title were both gringos.
Mundials: Fabricio Werdum, Mario Sperry, Gabriel Napao, Pe de Pano, Roberto Traven and..... BJ Penn.
ADCC: Dean Lister, Renzo Gracie, Fabricio Werdum, Pe de Pano, Jeff Monson, Roberto Traven, Jon Olav Einemo, Mario Sperry and..... Ricco Rodriguez & Mark Kerr.
Worth noting also that Ricco did win a Mundials title (albeit at blue belt) so technically is the only man to have won a title at all 3.
david5
14-06-2011, 01:25 PM
bustamante?
Simon Hayes
14-06-2011, 01:53 PM
Why not try,just for once,taking your ego to the gym with you and letting it run riot!
Go 100% with everyone,use your A game,psyche yourself up
between rounds and ENJOY smashing people.
You never know,it might be highly enjoyable and a refreshing change.
Hombre
14-06-2011, 03:08 PM
I can't help but think that people would view me as a bit of a cunt if I did that. Then again, being a beginner with very few skills, I'd probably end up spazzing and deserve my cunt status.
Simon Hayes
14-06-2011, 03:56 PM
What is "spazzing"?
If it is going absolutely mental in an effort to win using little
Or no BJJ skills,I think it's good for more experienced BJJ fighters
(experienced whites and blues) to learn to deal with this,because it keeps it
real and gives them a tiny hint of what it's going to be like
using BJJ in a self defence situation rather than letting them become
convinced that their BJJ can deal with all-comers.
markjitsu
14-06-2011, 04:41 PM
What is "spazzing"?
If it is going absolutely mental in an effort to win using little
Or no BJJ skills,I think it's good for more experienced BJJ fighters
(experienced whites and blues) to learn to deal with this,because it keeps it
real and gives them a tiny hint of what it's going to be like
using BJJ in a self defence situation rather than letting them become
convinced that their BJJ can deal with all-comers.
Interesting perspective
jackmcd
14-06-2011, 04:55 PM
Spazzing usually refers to people who have no idea of what they're doing using all their energy in a dangerous manner, often with a complete lack of awareness of the injuries that they could inflict on their training partner and themselves.
Yes, it's necessary to learn to deal with it, but spazzing opponents are also responsible for about 90% of the pointless injuries that I have received (the ones that weren't my fault, that is). I want to roll 100% with a purple belt that will destroy me, not a white belt that will intentionally kick my elbow while my arm is posted (Quote: "Sorry, I was trying to kick your wrist.") I can take my elbow getting popped because I try an armbar escape and my opponent "thinks otherwise", but I'm bored of getting injured by idiots.
david5
14-06-2011, 05:41 PM
rolled no gi last night with a 110 kilo rugby player. like simon says, that sort of thing will really open your eyes. tight and controlling is the name of the game
Simon Hayes
14-06-2011, 09:00 PM
Yes,i had the same thing David with a rugby player of the same weight-real explosive power and you soon learn what works and what doesn't.
Especially no-gi.
twitchboy
14-06-2011, 09:05 PM
gives them a tiny hint of what it's going to be like
using BJJ in a self defence situation rather than letting them become
convinced that their BJJ can deal with all-comers.
I like it^^^ but then again I'm very much into grappling with self defence in mind.
I've been kicked in the back of the head, elbowed in the face and lost a tooth while rolling with spazzing beginners. They apologised and I accepted that I have chosen to practice a rough martial art and that this shit is going to happen.
Needless injuries are a pain in the arse. They can sideline you for weeks or even months at a time, but this is a real martial art where you're going to get smashed up from time to time. If a person's reckless rolling is causing you real concern then just have a quiet word in their ear and tell them to chill.
david5
14-06-2011, 09:09 PM
Yes,i had the same thing David with a rugby player of the same weight-real explosive power and you soon learn what works and what doesn't.
Especially no-gi.
100% simon
twitchboy
14-06-2011, 09:36 PM
So what works, in your experiences? What doesn't work that you thought would or at least should when rolling with a beast?
I'm shit at armbars anyway, but I find that I can't armbar or kimura anyone much bigger or stronger than me. I always end up going for a choke. That I can do.
Simon Hayes
14-06-2011, 09:38 PM
Tight,slow methodical basics work.
twitchboy
14-06-2011, 09:41 PM
Slow? Didn't think that would help much lol. I must try it sometime. I presume by slow you mean 'measured'?
BlueRabbit
14-06-2011, 10:13 PM
I rolled no gi with a massive dude tonight (~20 stone).I pulled guard and he just smothered me like a big heavy man-blanket. He was freakily strong and I wasn't skilled enough to engineer a sweep or submission, I was pinned under him. I managed to wriggle my way out, get on top and achieve some measure of control, but it was hard work. My next roll was with a 19 stone former powerlifter. There was no fucking way that I pulling guard on that guy :P Do you have any specific techniques/strategies when rolling with a monster (no gi in particular)?
Rob T
14-06-2011, 10:20 PM
Slow? Didn't think that would help much lol. I must try it sometime. I presume by slow you mean 'measured'?
Slow them down. Get side control, get tight, ram your shoulder in their face and let them try to spaz until they are totally gassed. Then tap them out however you want :)
Rob T
14-06-2011, 10:22 PM
I rolled no gi with a massive dude tonight (~20 stone).I pulled guard and he just smothered me like a big heavy man-blanket. He was freakily strong and I wasn't skilled enough to engineer a sweep or submission, I was pinned under him. I managed to wriggle my way out, get on top and achieve some measure of control, but it was hard work. My next roll was with a 19 stone former powerlifter. There was no fucking way that I pulling guard on that guy :P Do you have any specific techniques/strategies when rolling with a monster (no gi in particular)?
Butterfly/sitting guard to armdrag. Get on their back and stay there until you choke them.
Hombre
14-06-2011, 10:23 PM
Slow them down. Get side control, get tight, ram your shoulder in their face and let them try to spaz until they are totally gassed. Then tap them out however you want :)
Story of my bjj life haha :(
Sir Tapsalot
14-06-2011, 10:54 PM
When I roll with guys that big it's all about taking away any space. Closed guard, hug the head, overhook an arm etc. Stay tight, get an angle on them and slip out to the back.
James
Rob T
14-06-2011, 10:58 PM
When I roll with guys that big it's all about taking away any space. Closed guard, hug the head, overhook an arm etc. Stay tight, get an angle on them and slip out to the back.
James
I don't mind this with big guys (up to 15 stone or so), but with really big guys I find it's tough to move from closed guard (and I have long legs) and keeping the overhook is tough nogi when they can just rip out of it. With gi the closed guard is much easier to use for sure.
BlueRabbit
14-06-2011, 11:08 PM
I don't mind this with big guys (up to 15 stone or so), but with really big guys I find it's tough to move from closed guard (and I have long legs) and keeping the overhook is tough nogi when they can just rip out of it. With gi the closed guard is much easier to use for sure.
That's the problem I was having. I was able to get overhooks but I couldn't keep them and my hips were pinned. I'll give butterfly guard a crack.
david5
14-06-2011, 11:13 PM
it's all about single butterfly guard and armdrags for me. watch marcelo fight big guys for tips
as for the guy who mentioned chokes, i find i struggle to get RNC and guillotines but head and arm type chokes work well on muscly guys. i tend to armbar and kimura more as they tend to have no neck available to choke lol
Sir Tapsalot
14-06-2011, 11:17 PM
I don't mind this with big guys (up to 15 stone or so), but with really big guys I find it's tough to move from closed guard (and I have long legs) and keeping the overhook is tough nogi when they can just rip out of it. With gi the closed guard is much easier to use for sure.
Yeah, the gi definitely helps when there's a size difference. As a smaller guy, I can often duck under their arms and wriggle out to the back that way. Especially when they rip their arm out of the overhook, I'll duck inside and go to a head and arm control. Def tough to keep closed guard though, especially once you start to angle out. I often have success with big lads by going for the sit-up/hip bump sweep. I won't sweep them (though sometimes they can be easy to sweep because they're overconfident in their weight), but I'll use that as the start of sneaking out.
James
BlueRabbit
14-06-2011, 11:20 PM
it's all about single butterfly guard and armdrags for me. watch marcelo fight big guys for tips
as for the guy who mentioned chokes, i find i struggle to get RNC and guillotines but head and arm type chokes work well on muscly guys. i tend to armbar and kimura more as they tend to have no neck available to choke lol
Yeah, I've been watching Marcelo videos. He makes it look so easy. I tried an arm drag, but it was like pulling a tree. My technique wasn't good enough. I'm a big guy myself but recently I seem to be rolling with giants. Grappling with Dave Keeley on saturday I felt like Willow.
Rob T
14-06-2011, 11:23 PM
I tried an arm drag, but it was like pulling a tree. My technique wasn't good enough.
Don't try to pull them toward you, pull yourself up and past them using their arm.
Sir Tapsalot
14-06-2011, 11:24 PM
it's all about single butterfly guard and armdrags for me. watch marcelo fight big guys for tips
as for the guy who mentioned chokes, i find i struggle to get RNC and guillotines but head and arm type chokes work well on muscly guys. i tend to armbar and kimura more as they tend to have no neck available to choke lol
Love watching Marcelo fight the big guys. I struggle with the arm drag game, I don't move my hips well enough to scoot out.
I think my big man defence comes from my real early days of BJJ (and Simon will probably back me up on this) when everyone coming into a BJJ club had seen UFCs 1-4 and fancied getting into this "Vale Tudo" thing (no such thing as MMA back then lol). It meant that a hell of a lot of rolling time was spent basically re-enacting Gurgel vs Kerr from WVC 3...
James
david5
15-06-2011, 12:22 AM
Don't try to pull them toward you, pull yourself up and past them using their arm.
listen to rob
J-Sho
15-06-2011, 02:24 PM
bustamante?
You know, sod's law practically demanded i would forget someone if i didn't look at my stats and tried to do it from memory :)
J-Sho
15-06-2011, 02:28 PM
What is "spazzing"?
If it is going absolutely mental in an effort to win using little
Or no BJJ skills,I think it's good for more experienced BJJ fighters
(experienced whites and blues) to learn to deal with this,because it keeps it
real and gives them a tiny hint of what it's going to be like
using BJJ in a self defence situation rather than letting them become
convinced that their BJJ can deal with all-comers.
sometimes i think people complaining about spazzing are really just whinging they have rolled with a newb with much better strength and conditioning which negated their many years of BJJ/Judo/Grappling and largely made the roll a fairly even affair and their ego is a little bruised as a result.
david5
15-06-2011, 02:35 PM
You know, sod's law practically demanded i would forget someone if i didn't look at my stats and tried to do it from memory :)....
hehehe :D
Simon Hayes
15-06-2011, 05:02 PM
JSho-
Nail.Head.
Neil_D
15-06-2011, 05:11 PM
I've enjoyed reading the last few posts about techniques that work for smaller guys against big guys. As someone who is 64kg this has been an issue for me from day one, especially against the 'roid monkeys when rolling.
Hombre
15-06-2011, 09:36 PM
So what do big guys really think they're gaining from using their size and strength when rolling with smaller guys? It's false economy surely?
As a big lump myself I'd have to say that I am a bit paranoid about being viewed as a bully, so I make a conscious decision not to use my weight when rolling with smaller guys.
Rob T
15-06-2011, 09:56 PM
How can you not use weight? You shouldn't try to keep your weight off people, that's bad technique.
Basically just remember you're training to get better, not to win. Try to learn technique... but technique means using leverage to increase strength, it's not some sort of magic.
...and if you're a big guy worried about out-weighing or overpowering people, just think; have you ever heard people saying don't use flexibility/cardio/speed? Yet people relying on those things are probably also slowing down the rate they learn.
J Sho's last post was spot on.
Hombre
15-06-2011, 10:22 PM
Very good points Rob.
By trying not to use my weight I find that I just sort of go limp. Which really is rather silly and pointless. I just found that I rely on my strength and weight to get out of a bad spot. That is also rather pointless but I suppose it's very common with beginners.
david5
15-06-2011, 10:50 PM
think about a seesaw with technique on one side and strength needed to perform the move on the other side. as your technique improves the strength required will drop until it reaches a lower limit because all moves require some strength.
newer guys, especially big guys have said i feel really strong in some positions, especially my grip....more strong than my frame would suggest. I'm not particularly strong, i just grip or lock/bar my hands in such a way that i'm mechanically strong which if you dont know how to do it seems like you're monstrously strong. so don't worry about using strength, jiu jitsu requires it, especially when your technique is outmatched.
sorry if that doesn;t make any sense, i was kind of rambling from my mind
Hombre
15-06-2011, 10:53 PM
No, that makes perfect sense. Thanks for that.
Sir Tapsalot
15-06-2011, 11:09 PM
think about a seesaw with technique on one side and strength needed to perform the move on the other side. as your technique improves the strength required will drop until it reaches a lower limit because all moves require some strength.
newer guys, especially big guys have said i feel really strong in some positions, especially my grip....more strong than my frame would suggest. I'm not particularly strong, i just grip or lock/bar my hands in such a way that i'm mechanically strong which if you dont know how to do it seems like you're monstrously strong. so don't worry about using strength, jiu jitsu requires it, especially when your technique is outmatched.
sorry if that doesn;t make any sense, i was kind of rambling from my mind
Spot on. BJJ isn't just leverage, it's making the maximum efficient use of the tools that you have.
James
daddybaresi
15-06-2011, 11:45 PM
I'm working on everything. I recently got over realising that getting tapped out doesn't mean that you're rubbish.
I think it's a white belt thing.
I started out getting smashed by everyone. Then I learnt to survive. Then I started getting positions. I found something I was quite good at (for a white belt) - guard. Which meant I was then getting good positions and occasionally catching subs. For a few months I got a bit cocky. Then other white belts started to negate what I was doing. So after having a bit of a comfort zone I tried new stuff... and people I was usually tapping, started to tap me out.
I'd gone from being bottom of the white belt heap to the top of said heap, then spiralling down again. Or so I thought.
It took me about a month to get my head round it. The only person who thought I was spiralling down and had got worse was me.
This jiujitsu thing and how it plays with your mind is crazy.
TRIBULUS
16-06-2011, 12:23 AM
sometimes i think people complaining about spazzing are really just whinging they have rolled with a newb with much better strength and conditioning which negated their many years of BJJ/Judo/Grappling and largely made the roll a fairly even affair and their ego is a little bruised as a result.
Very good post.
LOl at J-Sho's fact machine going on the blink, I think that's twice in the last couple of weeks! :)
Bendy
16-06-2011, 07:17 AM
By trying not to use my weight I find that I just sort of go limp. Which really is rather silly and pointless. I just found that I rely on my strength and weight to get out of a bad spot. That is also rather pointless but I suppose it's very common with beginners.[/QUOTE]
I have to agree with you completely based on my first Gi session the other night. I haven't learnt how to sweep or shrimp yet, I am 15 and a half stone, quite strong and the first guy I practised techniques with, was a 15 year old guy. He was cool as, mega helpful and patient with me (me being the 'Uh, was it right leg first, then left left or does this arm go here or there??? What part of the lapel do I grab, inside or out? lol) I was practising a kimura from side mount, trapping the left arm between my legs and then having to lean on his stomach to trap the other arm (hope I've remembered that right.) I said to him 'I don't want to put my weight on you, mate, I'm 15 and a half stone.' He replied 'Just do it, use your size and strength, it'll cause your opponent difficulty with breathing which means they will have more difficulty in trying to control you coz they'll be uncomfortable.' And, I felt that I was limp. My body felt awkward.
1inchPonch
16-06-2011, 09:55 AM
Lately I've been working more on expanding my game, I make a point of implementing what we've learned the week before into my rolling whenever possible and also try to pull some made up shit every once in a while (with varying degrees of success). Previously I found myself relying on maybe 2 favourite positions that had 1 sub possibility from each. Training with the same people every week that kind of thing becomes too easy to read. I figure the time spent rolling with friends is the best place to expand, improve and learn new things. I used to care more about being able to submit people or avoid getting submitted because I thought that was what the game was all about. I now believe it's about having the answer to questions if that makes sense.
With regard to the spazzing. I'm a 73kg weed, It doesn't bother me when the big fat retard strength new guy spazzes out, flattens me or even gets a choke. It does however bother me when he tries to slam me, makes a ridiculous neck crank guillotine or attempts some leg lock he's seen on Youtube as they nearly always end up with me getting injured and missing training.
Duchman
16-06-2011, 04:27 PM
it's all about single butterfly guard and armdrags for me. watch marcelo fight big guys for tips
as for the guy who mentioned chokes, i find i struggle to get RNC and guillotines but head and arm type chokes work well on muscly guys. i tend to armbar and kimura more as they tend to have no neck available to choke lol
This is guy david is real man. Armdrag and smash faggot
Duchman
16-06-2011, 04:29 PM
Lately I've been working more on expanding my game, I make a point of implementing what we've learned the week before into my rolling whenever possible and also try to pull some made up shit every once in a while (with varying degrees of success). Previously I found myself relying on maybe 2 favourite positions that had 1 sub possibility from each. Training with the same people every week that kind of thing becomes too easy to read. I figure the time spent rolling with friends is the best place to expand, improve and learn new things. I used to care more about being able to submit people or avoid getting submitted because I thought that was what the game was all about. I now believe it's about having the answer to questions if that makes sense.
With regard to the spazzing. I'm a 73kg weed, It doesn't bother me when the big fat retard strength new guy spazzes out, flattens me or even gets a choke. It does however bother me when he tries to slam me, makes a ridiculous neck crank guillotine or attempts some leg lock he's seen on Youtube as they nearly always end up with me getting injured and missing training.
open your guard and kick him in the face. renzo gracie gym. if he still comes back to legock. go on top. and ro ce gym. frens,it all has been done before. just look at the past to know the future
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