Bisping vs. Miller officially five rounds

[Ben CQ]

http://www.mmahq.com/blog/2011/10/03/bisping-vs-mayhem-officially-booked-for-five-rounds-at-tuf-14-finale/

This favours......

[steve_langford]

Bisping will only need 3rds.

[boogeyman]

I think Bisping will stay on his toes for 3 rounds, then look for the takedown and GNP finish in the 4th or 5th.

[londonpride]

Bisping's cardio is very good, but it's never been tested this far. If he really does have great cardio then 5 round fights could certainly help him, particularly with his stick and move style and g'n'p ability (as above ^)

[Nathan_Court]

bispings cardio should help him in a 5 rounder but mayhem has been the 5 round distance before so knows what he is getting in to. also he hasnt been submitted since 2002 and the only time he was ever TKO'd was to soccer kicks which the UFC doesnt have. stylwise i think this fight favours bisping but i feel it will be by decision

[HomerPlata]

I'm a billion percent against having non-title 5 round fights. It's ridiculous. It ruins any real continuity, it changes the playing field, and the number of rounds you end up fighting will be dependent on other fights/fighters on the same card (if a higher profile fight is on, 3 rounds is fine, but if not?).

Fights should be wholly separate things, unaffected by anything else. You shouldn't have to suffer a number of 5 rounds fights just on the way to a title shot, when all the guys who came before you only ever had to do 3.

Fuck this shit.

[Evzy]

Homer you are missing the point, now they are extending it to 5 rounds, soon that won't be enough and it will be 9 rounds, then once the public bore of that, it will be a fight.....to THE END !!!!

[Dragunov]

I'm a billion percent against having non-title 5 round fights. It's ridiculous. It ruins any real continuity, it changes the playing field, and the number of rounds you end up fighting will be dependent on other fights/fighters on the same card (if a higher profile fight is on, 3 rounds is fine, but if not?).

Fights should be wholly separate things, unaffected by anything else. You shouldn't have to suffer a number of 5 rounds fights just on the way to a title shot, when all the guys who came before you only ever had to do 3.

Fuck this shit.

I initially thought the same way but I'm warming to the idea. For example, Silva and GSP have had impressive stints as champions in their respective weight categories with most challengers only experiencing a 5 round fight in their title challenge. 5 round fights will better prepare some of the up and coming fighters for those extra 2 rounds imo. The counter argument of course is that in the past challengers would prepare a bit differently for an extended fight for the strap but nothing can compare to actually doing 5 round in the cage competitively. If the winner of Bisping/Mayhem gets a shot at the title, this is the best way to prepare for it.

Would be interesting to see what The Count thinks of this, shame he doesn't post here any more.

[the mid 90's]

I'm a billion percent against having non-title 5 round fights. It's ridiculous. It ruins any real continuity, it changes the playing field, and the number of rounds you end up fighting will be dependent on other fights/fighters on the same card (if a higher profile fight is on, 3 rounds is fine, but if not?).

Fights should be wholly separate things, unaffected by anything else. You shouldn't have to suffer a number of 5 rounds fights just on the way to a title shot, when all the guys who came before you only ever had to do 3.

Fuck this shit.

I was for 5 round fights, but I hadn't looked at it this way.

That being said, they should have a five round fight for a title eliminator.

Plus a lot of fights could have turned out different with two extra rounds, Jon Fitch B.J for instance.

[boogeyman]

I initially thought the same way but I'm warming to the idea. For example, Silva and GSP have had impressive stints as champions in their respective weight categories with most challengers only experiencing a 5 round fight in their title challenge. 5 round fights will better prepare some of the up and coming fighters for those extra 2 rounds imo. The counter argument of course is that in the past challengers would prepare a bit differently for an extended fight for the strap but nothing can compare to actually doing 5 round in the cage competitively. If the winner of Bisping/Mayhem gets a shot at the title, this is the best way to prepare for it.

Would be interesting to see what The Count thinks of this, shame he doesn't post here any more.
Il see if I can get a quote from the Count.

[Dragunov]

Il see if I can get a quote from the Count.

Good work! I'm guessing he'll be in favour of the extra rounds.

[boogeyman]

I will have some quotes from both Bisping and Miller on addictedmma.com by early afternoon tommorow.

[HomerPlata]

Seriously, who would ever be in favour of extra rounds? If you're going to outpoint someone in 5, you can do it in 3 - just with a lot less bodily damage for your troubles. I just don't agree with it. It will skew future results, I don't like it at all.

It's like jibbing the 100m in athletics, and replacing it with the 85m. Whoever wins this race at the World Championships could rightly claim to be the fastest man on the planet, but it would destroy all comparisons to the previous fastest men on the planet who, throughout history, competed over 100m.

I repeat, fuck this shit.

[Dragunov]

Seriously, who would ever be in favour of extra rounds?

The person who must be prepared to do extra rounds to be a champion. I can see where you're coming from though.

[the mid 90's]

Seriously, who would ever be in favour of extra rounds? If you're going to outpoint someone in 5, you can do it in 3 - just with a lot less bodily damage for your troubles. I just don't agree with it. It will skew future results, I don't like it at all.

It's like jibbing the 100m in athletics, and replacing it with the 85m. Whoever wins this race at the World Championships could rightly claim to be the fastest man on the planet, but it would destroy all comparisons to the previous fastest men on the planet who, throughout history, competed over 100m.

I repeat, fuck this shit.

So do you not think a title fight should be 5 rounds?

[The Gimp]

Bisping will get tapped by Mayhem

[Jimmy Boogaloo]

good question from mid-90's in response to an interesting post.

[jayman2606]

I personally would prefer all fights to be 3 rounds. I've rarely watched a 5 rounder and enjoyed it. Maybe I've got a very short attention span. Then again I dare say Im not the only one by looks of it.

[Evzy]

Thing is - a 12 round boxing match has 36 minutes of combat, even with 5 rounds in mma its 25 - totally different situation granted, but what I am trying to say is people are happy to watch 36 mins of boxing but not 25 of mma? I think some 5 rounders have indeed been stinkers but there have been more than a fair few fights I would have loved to see go into a fourth round.

[Rza]

It definitely takes away some of the prestige involved in being a title contest though

Now every Tom, Dick and Harry are going to be involved in 5 rounders

I know some fights will probably end up epic, it just takes the gloss off a title fight

Oh, and i presume the fighters are getting more pay for extra rounds? (fucking doubt it)

[Zanmato]

I don't really like automatic 5 rounders. Fights with former champions, number one contender matches or special interest (cross division fights or whatever) are alright, but is this fight any of those? I don't think so.

I would be more in favour of fights being judged more on a round being decisive... so more 10-10 rounds unless someone does something reasonably significant to warrent the extra point, and then adding in a 4th 'sudden victory' round if the fight was close or potentially scored a draw, like they are doing with the Strikeforce tourney... that way the title fight still has the prestige of a 5 round fight, and we don't have big fights not ending decisively (i think the 4th round would be fully action packed as both guys really fought hard for the win)

[James-w]

I like change, so I'll give it a go and see what happends :) "CHAAAAANGEEE, OBAAAMAAAAAA" - sorry, southpark refrence ;)

[the mid 90's]

It definitely takes away some of the prestige involved in being a title contest though

Now every Tom, Dick and Harry are going to be involved in 5 rounders

I know some fights will probably end up epic, it just takes the gloss off a title fight

Oh, and i presume the fighters are getting more pay for extra rounds? (fucking doubt it)


Not really because it's still limited to main events.

[londonpride]

I'd like to state that I also hate this new UFC idea of 5 round non title fights. It's stupid and I'm not looking forward to it. There's been many a shit 3 round main event in recent years, majority of which I'd never want to go an extra round.

[londonpride]

I don't think the 5 round fights should be selected 'willy-nilly' based on your opponent (being an ex-champ) or based on what the fight means at that point in time when in 3 months it could be irrelevant again. The only fights that should be extended rounds should be purely title fights, for me that just adds to the whole aura and aspect of fighting for the title.

[HomerPlata]

So do you not think a title fight should be 5 rounds?

I think title fights should still be 5 rounds. I am not opposed to 5 round fights in principle, but they should be solely for title fights (or "interim" titles), as has been the established norm for a good while now.

Bottom line is I'm opposed to change in general - but especially such an arbitrary one that would seem to suggest that "the old ways" were somehow wrong, because they are blatantly fine. I would sincerely hope that the extra rounds that Bisping and Miller are scheduled to do will be reflected in their pay.

[Ralph]

I think ALL fights should be 3 rounds... people shuld be encouraged to go for it and end the fight. Take away the scoring of each round and do it over the whole fight like Pride, or just have 15mins of continious action so if someone gets the momentum they can finish the fight!

[Daniel Churnside]

If that was the case then Sonnen v Stann would be a 5 rounder, i don't agree with this matchup being 5 rounds, it's pointless and silly.