Rules!!!!!

[mmakind]

I know some people will think this is dumb a quesion but I am askng anyway,
First off are C-class weigh ins the day of the fight show?
Secondly (this is the dodgy one),in scottish mma how would a referree deal with a fighter grabbing there own shorts to defend against submissions or any other element? its just that in the ufc u are allowed to grab ur own shorts to help secure subs ,finish fights or even to improve ur position grabbing at ur own shorts is allowed as its the grabbing of your opponents shorts that is illegal, so what i want to know is say in my next fight the guy is trying to kimura me and i am grabbing my own shorts are i am to be punished its just that everyone i asked abt the shorts do not know or think im talking shit,wopuld like some clarification on both theese points please

[TapouT1]

C clas is same day

there is no rule saying you cant grab own shorts

[boxingbrit]

Exactly, you cant grab your opponents shorts but you can grab your own

[UrbanDisturbance]

As said above, u can grab onto your own shorts to help defend\secure a sub. Just don't grab your opponents.

[funkdizzle]

Unless you are wearing a set of Dennis Hallman speedo`s.

[staffie]

Then, just grab your own ballbag.

[sanchez]

I'd love it if you won your next fight by some kind of variation of a choke holding your own nut sack Rob!!

[TheJuice]

Aye well you couldn't manage it with your wee banger could you?

[sanchez]

Well you're in LA, and I'm sick of your Leslie Grantham style shit on Skype! So you'll never find out you giant Beiber looking fuck :) (smiley face)

[TheJuice]

You didn't like my finger in mouth pose???

[sanchez]

Thats the problem! It's my cryptonite!

[mmakind]

thanks for the help guys! Also are knees to the head allowed at c-class?

[TheDoctor!!]

no knees in c - class

[THE EQUALIZER]

thanks for the help guys! Also are knees to the head allowed at c-class?

Only in Pro or Stuart Baxter's Interclub :D

[RabTrue]

Nsac rules allow knees and weigh ins are day before.

[mmakind]

no knees in c - class

so no knees to the head for TAOC c-class fights too !!!! Oh man am kinda gutted there as knees to the head are awesome for takedown defence lol

[staffie]

Nsac rules allow knees and weigh ins are day before.

Well seeing as we're not in Nevada I don't see how that makes any difference.

[TheDoctor!!]

We seem to treading old ground guys, as rob says were not in nevada and its not called nsac. its called c-class and from the previous thread about all this rule change its to give spectators what they want and trying to protect the fighters to a certain degree you are in a fight at the end of the day. But people do have work the next day so a knee to the snout can be quite deadly as james doolan pointed out in 1 post i remember.

There is obvisly some trial and error process aswell so we will se how it works out.

[Alan Moore]

It seems there is only one person who does not understand the new rule set we are looking to implement... and it's not the OP !!

[TheDoctor!!]

???? Op ?????

[Alan Moore]

OP = Original Poster lol. I only learned that the other day. I'm so P.C. these days.

[TheDoctor!!]

Ahh i see, im not very PC hahaha

[mmakind]

so who is it or are u being sarcastic???? I just thought id ask some questions i was unsure about now rather than train the next three months sharpening up my thai clinch to the point ay scoring knees to the face each time only to ko my opponent way a kne and pick up a dq,I guarantee more folk will askbut what i am going to do is find the old post and print off the rule sets so iand the guys in my gym remember but thanks for the help anyway but like i said and it might not be on here but I wont be the last person you explain part or all of theese rules too

[staffie]

Full stops please. Hate to start this shit again but that's pretty hard to read.

[RabTrue]

Fuck it just make them up as u go along this will be funnier. Then when ppl ask just tell look fuck offff. It dosent fucking matter wat u call it but i thought they were the same rules.

[Alan Moore]

so who is it or are u being sarcastic???? I just thought id ask some questions i was unsure about now rather than train the next three months sharpening up my thai clinch to the point ay scoring knees to the face each time only to ko my opponent way a kne and pick up a dq,I guarantee more folk will askbut what i am going to do is find the old post and print off the rule sets so iand the guys in my gym remember but thanks for the help anyway but like i said and it might not be on here but I wont be the last person you explain part or all of theese rules too

I wasn't referring to you mate. Just seems that big Rab Truesdale can't seem to grasp the concept of the new rule set. Everytime there is a thread about it he just pipes up and gets the rules all wrong. Sounds like a good idea getting a hard copy of the new rules and putting them up in your gym tho dude.

[mmakind]

I wasn't referring to you mate. Just seems that big Rab Truesdale can't seem to grasp the concept of the new rule set. Everytime there is a thread about it he just pipes up and gets the rules all wrong. Sounds like a good idea getting a hard copy of the new rules and putting them up in your gym tho dude.

Nae worries mate a was just startin to get confused,yeah I think it would help everyone a bit if there was actuall copies hitting about as I said I dont't think I will be the last,so if there was a copy you could just throw that at them and say here read that!!!


Full stops please. Hate to start this shit again but that's pretty hard to read.

Ok I will fix my speliing up nice and good for you Rob! No more one breath stories as it is hard to read.

[mmakind]

So another question guys,where or when does a kick become a knee???,as its all the same area.Would it only be a lnee strike if I clearly bent the knee +struck my opponent,where as if I thrown a kick and the knee connected to my opponents face when he was maybe getting up for example,would that count or be deemed illegal? ight be dumb but just a small query I had,thanks

[MickyP]

would you be hinting at landing a knee with a straight leg ?

[mmakind]

would you be hinting at landing a knee with a straight leg ?

aye along they lines

[MickyP]

aye along they lines

I would hope a fighter wouldnt attempt that, just for his own safety ! have a wee shot at throwing a roundhouse/ turning kick and landing your knee on target !! it would basically act like the effects of a knee bar !! give it a go and get back to me !!

[mmakind]

I would hope a fighter wouldnt attempt that, just for his own safety ! have a wee shot at throwing a roundhouse/ turning kick and landing your knee on target !! it would basically act like the effects of a knee bar !! give it a go and get back to me !!

well maybe not so much (or i nvr thought that one out) but on the way up ur opponents maybe a bit too close for ur shin to connect so you end up kneeing him?is that an illegall move if it was intended to be a kick,also is the forearm an elbow,punch or neither? and are shoulder strikes allowed

[mmakind]

all it takes is a slight bend to avoid that which is possible in a split second

[Romeoblood]

no knees in c - class
sorry if this sounds like daft question but I just want to make make sure i have this right?

under old semi pro rules it was ok to knee an oppoenents face, but under the new c class, there are no knees at all (none to the head and none to the body)

I have looked back over the original threart where Mop suggested the rule change, am I the only one who thought we were going for:

A Class - Pro rules
B Class - Pro minus elbows
C Class - Pro minus elbows with 8oz gloves

[ss1]

B & C had no heel hooks as well!

From what i have read in both posts C Class has knees to the body - the only debate was knees to the head!

I dont think there should be knees to the head in C Class as this is entry level MMA!

Each class is a major step up - round times, rules and quality of fighter.

[Romeoblood]

B & C had no heel hooks as well!

From what i have read in both posts C Class has knees to the body - the only debate was knees to the head!


what was the opinion of the majority on this?

[TheDoctor!!]

yeah knees to the body, not the head stuart!!!!

For fighters that want knee'd in the head there are things like interclubs for that. lol

[Romeoblood]

knees to the body only make sense, I thought for a second you were proposing no knees at all

[mmakind]

what was the opinion of the majority on this?

Personnaly I think its like one step forward and one step back as we were allowed knees to the face in the old semi pro rules which of course most of us are coming from.Its like we have traded knees for some ground and pound,when I thought about it its taking a great striking tool and also giving guys who grapple another advantage for instance when in a clinch you think twice about dropping the head when knees are allowed where as now you can drop down out of range of punches freely without worrying about knees.Personnally I think it sucks but I dont run a show and all I can do is fight with the rule set agreed upon.What about if both guys(fighters agree to knees to the head) would that be ok? and still call it c-class or is it no loinger c-class

[THE EQUALIZER]

knees to the body only make sense, I thought for a second you were proposing no knees at all

No limbs at all, only belly slams and rolling around

[ss1]

Personnaly I think its like one step forward and one step back as we were allowed knees to the face in the old semi pro rules which of course most of us are coming from.Its like we have traded knees for some ground and pound,when I thought about it its taking a great striking tool and also giving guys who grapple another advantage for instance when in a clinch you think twice about dropping the head when knees are allowed where as now you can drop down out of range of punches freely without worrying about knees.Personnally I think it sucks but I dont run a show and all I can do is fight with the rule set agreed upon.What about if both guys(fighters agree to knees to the head) would that be ok? and still call it c-class or is it no loinger c-class

Even though i dont think knees to head should be allowed i agree with you - i only say no knee to the head as C Class is the entry level rule set.

For all the semi-pro guys i would of thought same day weigh in, 6oz gloves, knees to the head and head shots on the ground, no elbows/heel hooks would of been the ideal rule set!

[MickyP]

all it takes is a slight bend to avoid that which is possible in a split second

and the slight bend would constitute a knee and therefore illegal !! IMO

[Maccavelli]

Here is a mental idea how about everyone goes and learns how to fight.

That way everyone can fight under unified rules and then the confusion for everyone is gone. Elbows, small gloves and knees are only an issue if you make it one by subdividing the rules or if you do not know how to deal with them i.e. you do not know how to compete in an mma fight.

It seems to be more of an issue with those beyond the fighters to be honest, i.e. promoters, family members etc. Most of the fighters i know have never sparred with the old limited rule sets so are more than prepared for mma competition.

[fighter13]

Rules are there to be adhered too ! or broken . I always obide by rules and the law !

[mmakind]

and the slight bend would constitute a knee and therefore illegal !! IMO

Really so u lock ur knee out when throwing a kick? I let the bottom half of my leg drag as i turn my hip into it therefore leaving a slight bend.To makavelli I am merely questioning a set of rules that I am not yet totally familar with, along with a friendlyy debate.