What do you think about having 5 Judges for a MMA fight?
Would it help to find the more definate result or do you think it would be an extra two potential feck ups?
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What do you think about having 5 Judges for a MMA fight?
Would it help to find the more definate result or do you think it would be an extra two potential feck ups?
Joe Rogan said in an interview something about having a 30 point scoring system, which I guess would go something like:
10-9 on Takedowns
10-9 on Submissions
10-9 on Stand Up
Think it gets too complicated though... and in a way forces people to get well rounded, as you may whoop a guy to shit standing up and get taken down once, put in one simple and easy to get out of submission in the last 10 seconds and technically the judges should score it against you 9-10, 9-10, 10-9, which would frankly be shit.
I think it is fine how it is, OK there are some dodgy decisions, but at the end of the day it makes things exciting and sets up re-matches and is very rare anyway. It happens in boxing as well... plenty of decisions fo the wrong way, olympic wrestling is the same and often competition jujitsu is a matter of opinion, do you give it to someone who put on more submissions or the guy who countered / escaped all the submissions he was put in?
Combat sports are very hard to score unfortunetly. Good topic though :)
P.S. Your name sounds scare-ily like mine :P
I think one of the main problems with the 10 point must system is the way it's being applied. IMO judges are too reluctant to score a round 10-10 when the round is very close, giving fighters the win on rounds when it's difficult to pick who won will always result in controversial decisions.
sometimes I think they use the "I think he won" system...
This was being discussed on the UG.
I think some of their definitions are questionable e.g.the way they've chosen to score takedowns and escapes.
Problem is mate, so many fights follow this pattern:Quote:
I think one of the main problems with the 10 point must system is the way it's being applied. IMO judges are too reluctant to score a round 10-10 when the round is very close, giving fighters the win on rounds when it's difficult to pick who won will always result in controversial decisions.
First Round: Very Close
Second Round: Fighter A wins
Third Round: Fighter B wins
You'd end up with judges just giving draws out left right and centre which isn't good in terms of progression in ranks and people get very, very unhappy with draws (fans & fighters)
valid point however i think fighters and fans get more annoyed when people are given the decision when they probably shouldn't have been, also if fighters were aware they had to win rounds more clearly then it may make them fight in a more positive mannerQuote:
Originally Posted by Aplin
Or negative, a fighter may think 'first round was a draw', 'second round he won' and therefore the best I can work for is a draw. Where as right now he could think 'first round was close, I may have edged it' and 'second round he won' leading to him fighting to win the fight not just for a draw (whether he won the first round or not).Quote:
valid point however i think fighters and fans get more annoyed when people are given the decision when they probably shouldn't have been, also if fighters were aware they had to win rounds more clearly then it may make them fight in a more positive manner
Granted there is no right or wrong answer... that's the damned problem.