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    is there any particular difference between the British Judo council (BJC) and the British Judo assocaition (BJA).

    i've noticed the BJC do some sort or kata. it may just be ignorance but i thought there where no kata in judo?

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    Lots of kata's in judo,
    BJC & BJA are separate organisations however they are affiliated & have been for some time now.
    BJC mainly put their efforts into non competitive judo and treating judo as a martial art where as the BJA focus mainly on sport judo and try to keep away from the martial art tag.
    I think the BJC use katas in gradings at an earlier grade where as the bja use katas from about 2nd dan.

    Just different and a horses for courses approach is better than 1 is better than the other

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    Moves such as Kani Basami (sp?) - the leg scissors are illegal in judo but are included in some kata's. Also in some kata's weapons such as knives are used. I only know of a couple of clubs (bja) that practice kata's / renaisence judo on a semi regular basis.
    BJC clubs are more inclined to do this type of judo.

    I think it is important to keep Kata's involved in judo as essentially EVERYTHING in judo has evolved from this starting point, despite this i am extremely weak at kata. It is something i would like to go into in my forties

    In relation to grades - it really depends what club you go to, but it is pointless if you cannot do basic less technical techniques then why is there a need to practice the more technical / illegal techniques?

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    Training Judo is one of the most rewarding decisions i have made.

    It takes ages to learn,but once in a while when you break someones balance correctly and apply a throw with correct technique and timing,they fly effortlessly and it feels like magic.

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    You need to work on techniques such as, o goshi, tai otoshi, ippon seoi nage, ko & o uchi gari and o soto gari. That is all you need for the first year or so. Keep stood up despite the temptation to stick your arse out and put your head down. Continue to break fall.

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    Gary 'Smiler' Turner
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    Hi!

    My suggestions for quick improvements would be to learn how to be a 'dead weight', without it being affected on the ground. Make sure you can 'prop' correctly on the ground, in order to resist opponent's attempts to move you, getting the props to work in all directions. Learn how to move fluidly on the ground, while still keeping a 'dead weight' position. Practise moving round a body, especially one with the uki trying to escape lightly, collecting and positioning his limbs as you go to assist keeping control.

    Watch how the experienced fighters position their heads, its a heavy weight, and a big positional influence on the ground.

    Before of sneaky old judoka - not as fit as they used to be, but masters at using the gi to sneak strangles in lol!!!

    A further quick improvement comes from learning to use your total body at once, rather than legs or arms on their own. Use your head to post and bridge, with arms and legs working on full rotation all together.

    Standing, learn how to collect 'pocket grips' from any piece of jacket or trouser. Learn further how to use that grip to apply pressure on the body within, for example to control the shoulders, or upper arm.

    Basics, basics basics with standup, I'm sure you're learning the footsweeps and throws such as tai-toshi, o-goshi, the seonages and makikomis. A quick way of improving tachiwaza randori is to learn how to switch between a forward attack and then a rear attack - changing direction. Or how to apply a technique further after it has been checked - for example, standard tai-toshi which is checked, then dropping the extended leg onto the knee to move your opponent deeper.

    Other hints would be things such as 'move the opponent before you move your legs', and 'where your head goes, the body will follow'.

    Hope this helps a bit! It may help you go towards the 'perfect throw'. These are the ones where you find yourself on the ground, with ippon for a throw you don't remember or don't know you did...I had a few of these, and it freaked me out that I could just react like that...

    I remember some of the guys doing exceptional katas in the 80's, even slo-mo ones - I used to be entertained when they threw and slomo breakfalled...rising slightly with the arm on impact before settling again - perfect!

    And I'm gutted that in around 1988 they banned scissors...it was one of my successful throws!!

    Smiler

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