Define sex

[Confidence Man]

I was talking to this Christian girl the other day. She said she's a devout Catholic but lives with her boyfriend. I then pointed out that if she was a devout Catholic why is she living with her boyfriend before they are married because Catholics don't believe in sex before marriage. She replied that they hadn't had sex yet. I was shocked and said something like "well that must be a bit shit, how do you resist the urges when you live with each other and sleep in the same bed?". She then said that aslong as they didn't actually have penetrative sex then it was ok. So things like oral sex and mutual masterbation are ok, just as long as actual "penis in vagina" sex is saved til after they wed, according to this girl and her bf.

Now to me this sounds a bit strange. Maybe I've got it all wrong but I doubt God would be sitting there in heaven watching them getting playful, jump out of his seat at the sight of them "sinning" and then think "phew it's ok. She's only sucking his nob". I mean it's not like it says in the bible "No sex before marriage but hand jobs are fair game" either.

So I said to her that those "other things" she was doing are actually sexual acts and so technically she was still having sex with her bf before marriage. I also said that she was just trying to get around the system and cheat. But now I feel a bit bad because I don't know if I was right or not. Maybe I'm wrong. What do you guys think?

[dead man walking]

id love to have oral with my lass, bet the boyfriend loves it getting blown off all the time.


but yes she is in the wrong she is cheating the system!

[Freestyler]

I too think that she is cheating the system, does it not mean that any type of sexual gratification you recieve is an actual sexual act?!?

[Luke]

The catholic religion is bullshit. You know how Catholic religion is against divorce and that you can't remarry or anything, well I know a relative (that got divorced) was pardoned for it and allowed to re-marry. Apparently they said that when she was younger she didn't know what she was getting herself into. They just chop and change rules whenever, it's a total farce.

[Confidence Man]

Well they have to bend with the times really I suppose. I'm a christian and there are certain parts of the bible which I actually don't follow because they make no sense these days. For example "thou shalt not steal" is pretty unrealistic in today's society.

[Emmet J]

The catholic religion is bullshit.

Is it just Catholics you have a problem with on this charge?

[Plastikman]

The catholic religion is bullshit. You know how Catholic religion is against divorce and that you can't remarry or anything, well I know a relative (that got divorced) was pardoned for it and allowed to re-marry. Apparently they said that when she was younger she didn't know what she was getting herself into. They just chop and change rules whenever, it's a total farce.

She got an annulment not a divorce. The "rules" (lol) havent changed in 2000 odd years.

I had guessed you were very ill informed about catholic ideology with the 1st sentence, but you at were good enough to confirm that for me with the rest

(Thats not to say I agree with ALL aspects catholicism)

To answer C_M's point, yeah she is exploiting a loop hole in a manner of speaking, but imo she is right to do so, the no sex before marriage/only having sex if you intend trying for a baby is ridiculous and outdated.

[Emmet J]

Are you a Catholic Plastikman?

[Plastikman]

Are you a Catholic Plastikman?

Yep I am, but not devout by any means (don't go to church and "sin" regularly etc)

[Emmet J]

Yep I am, but not devout by any means (don't go to church and "sin" regularly etc)

So then you're a bad Catholic.