do you believe in God?

[Nimmy]

by the time they are 4 they dont believe in him, nimmy. what are you saying God is a myth you believe in? tbh Nimrod I think you are right to compare God to Santa. His story is as believable as reindeers landing on the roof and santa falling down the chimney flue

in your opinion.

however regardless if god is real or not isnt the issue, the factors that he stands for very much are. our whole society is built around god and a godlike way of life, thou shalt not murder etc.. all pave the way we as a society work. it really doesnt matter if Jesus was a real man or a story the effects of Jesus have still shaped and continue to shape the world.

Pinnochio wasnt a real life story but the principles of telling lies still serve a purpose

[ginandtonic]

in your opinion.

however regardless if god is real or not isnt the issue, the factors that he stands for very much are. our whole society is built around god and a godlike way of life, thou shalt not murder etc.. all pave the way we as a society work. it really doesnt matter if Jesus was a real man or a story the effects of Jesus have still shaped and continue to shape the world.

Pinnochio wasnt a real life story but the principles of telling lies still serve a purpose

inyo. tbh i think since the advent of the internet all these principles are struggling. my ex friend told me the web is called the web for a reason. its the devils work

[boromma]

I'm a believer in the church of moral value.

Live life well and be good to people.

I dont need faith to keep me going but some people do. It's great people have faith, it's better they have moral values.

[ginandtonic]

do you not think that values are corroded and eroded by the web? the web that is there to catch us like flies for the beelzebub spider to devour us at leisure? this woman hardly comes on the net because she says its the devils own masterpiece

[boromma]

no.

I think the internet is a powerful tool, which can be both good and bad.

I believe we as individuals decide what we do and don't do. Which morals we follow and which we don't.

The web is so called because of it's construction. Nothing to do with evil. People may use it for evil, people may use it for good.

In life we choose the path we follow, on the internet we choose which links to click, which articles to read, which forums to post on, who to listen to, who to ignore.

It's all an individuals choice. (to pull this back on to topic) Just like belief in god.

[ginandtonic]

i agree with that for the most part, but there are things that pop up etc and i have seen people on here looking at the hotties which to me is not part of good moral structure.

[boromma]

You can close pop ups if you dont like the content.

Ok maybe some stuff gets thrown in your face, thats not just online, thats life. You choose to look or look away.

Moral value is different to everybody. I dont agree with arranged marriage, I know some do.

You may not think I am morally sound because I enjoy looking at porn. I would say my porn may differ to yours but we both enjoy it. We're not damaging anyone....are we?

[Daihlo]

i agree with that for the most part, but there are things that pop up etc and i have seen people on here looking at the hotties which to me is not part of good moral structure.

I think the internet is what yo make of it. Its 'almost' the pinnacle of supposed freedom of speech. On the downside though, it also can be a way to be anonymous and view what ever you want even things that you shouldnt see. I saw on the news the other day that some video was being sent around of a girl who was raped, her abuser was on trial at the time and the trial made a big thing out of the internet side of things. People shouldnt be seeing this sort of thing as its something that should never be done.

On the plus side of things, you can recieve an education on things outside of your world. I have friends in communist countries who have until recently been totaly shut off from the rest of the world and force fed propaganda about the views of foreigners. Only recently through the internet things have changed dramaticaly.

Going back to your original question, some vids on the www.godsnotdead.com website that I found interesting are the Nicky Cruz one, he was a famous 'warlord' for the mau mau gang back in the 60's. I read his biography a while ago 'run baby run', an amazing story. They made a film of it also but is realy dated. He was a very very disturbed guy until he had his God experience. Its a 3 part clip on the website, check it out.
Also, the guitarist from Korn is on there, a more recent one.
Both on the front page of the site.

[Daihlo]

You can close pop ups if you dont like the content.

Ok maybe some stuff gets thrown in your face, thats not just online, thats life. You choose to look or look away.

Moral value is different to everybody. I dont agree with arranged marriage, I know some do.

You may not think I am morally sound because I enjoy looking at porn. I would say my porn may differ to yours but we both enjoy it. We're not damaging anyone....are we?

Not so sure. Look up www.xxxchurch.com
Some insiteful videos, stories etc that may change the way you 'view' porn!
It certainly has a lifelong lasting damaging effect on those who get caught up in the industry and can ruin the familys and lives of those who get 'addicted' to viewing it. Have a look.

[boromma]

Not so sure. Look up www.xxxchurch.com
Some insiteful videos, stories etc that may change the way you 'view' porn!
It certainly has a lifelong lasting damaging effect on those who get caught up in the industry and can ruin the familys and lives of those who get 'addicted' to viewing it. Have a look.

We could say the same of religion Daihlo...