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    Thank you for updating me (although I am trusting you here because I can't put the sound on Youtube in work so I'll have to watch it later)!

    Does he say what his routine is now?
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    that he was training everything seperate before. And now does more mma sparring. Cause his timing was off before it.
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    gsp, bj penn, randy couture, they are all the elite. your average guy is not going to benefit the same way as these guys from training a single art, especially a parculiar one. that is all that was trying to be said. yes wrestling will benefit most, boxing or tahi/kickboxing will, bjj will, but if you can get to a quality mma "everything under 1 roof" gym, that would suit your average person a whole lot more. lets face it, someone just getting into martial arts at this age is a hell of a lot less likely to become the next bj penn, so i personally think its sound advice

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    Quote Originally Posted by dunny View Post
    gsp, bj penn, randy couture, they are all the elite. your average guy is not going to benefit the same way as these guys from training a single art, especially a parculiar one. that is all that was trying to be said. yes wrestling will benefit most, boxing or tahi/kickboxing will, bjj will, but if you can get to a quality mma "everything under 1 roof" gym, that would suit your average person a whole lot more. lets face it, someone just getting into martial arts at this age is a hell of a lot less likely to become the next bj penn, so i personally think its sound advice
    I (of course ) agree with you.

    There is a big difference between the 'top' fighters and the other 99.9% of people who train MMA. At the top level, training arts separately has obvious benefits in improving an all-round game, but only if you have the time and facilities to take what you have learnt back into an MMA gym and work out how to use it in an MMA fight.

    If you just train all the arts (or one as was implied originallly) on their own without taking the time to work out what to take from them to use in MMA and what is detrimental and needs to be removed, then you're not doing it right.

    This is why at many 'local' MMA events in this country you only have to watch the fight for about 30 seconds and then when someone says: "what do you make of these two?" you go: "well he's blatantly a Muay Thai guy and the other seems to be from a Judo background." Too many people are relying on their 'original style/specialism' or whatever you want to call it because they think that it's what the top guys are doing, when it simply isn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reedy View Post
    I remember hearing that Evan Tanner taught himself with videos how to grapple.

    So did Pat Militich watching Renzo Gracie Instruc's
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    Quote Originally Posted by r-v View Post
    So did Pat Militich watching Renzo Gracie Instruc's
    Instructionals are useful to people who already have a good grounding and knowledge of what they are doing and how the techniques they are seeing demonstrated can add to their game.

    While I've never heard that Miletich learnt from instructionals, I do believe the rumours about Tanner are true, if somewhat exagerrated. Tanner was already an accomplished wrestler and had competed in several MMA bouts before he ever started 'learning' from instructionals, and even then he was taking what he saw on the videos and training it at a gym with other people, not just sitting on the floor at home in his shack practising armbars on his shotgun.
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    Well, I have taken all your words of wisdom in, and I have been training Judo from a guy I know who used to compete a lot ( for free ) I have also been working on my cardio, a lot more than my weights, and I have been trying to get more sessions in the gym and well my fitness has gone up and I think I am sort of getting the hang of the basics of Judo. Oh and I didn't mention it earlier, but I have done a bit of boxin before and also shotokan karate (its useless in a fight, but good dicipline for me)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeDurrant View Post
    Well, I have taken all your words of wisdom in, and I have been training Judo from a guy I know who used to compete a lot ( for free ) I have also been working on my cardio, a lot more than my weights, and I have been trying to get more sessions in the gym and well my fitness has gone up and I think I am sort of getting the hang of the basics of Judo. Oh and I didn't mention it earlier, but I have done a bit of boxin before and also shotokan karate (its useless in a fight, but good dicipline for me)
    tell that to lyoto machida and semy schildt, karate is undervalued in mma

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emmet J View Post

    This is why at many 'local' MMA events in this country you only have to watch the fight for about 30 seconds and then when someone says: "what do you make of these two?" you go: "well he's blatantly a Muay Thai guy and the other seems to be from a Judo background." Too many people are relying on their 'original style/specialism' or whatever you want to call it because they think that it's what the top guys are doing, when it simply isn't.
    Some might argue that too many MMA clubs in the UK focus too much on MMA and conditioning and we're not developing fighters with a strong technical base that would them to fight at the top level.

    Without specialised instruction they are unable to develop and become something of a standardised MMA fighter and that standard type may not be best suited to their body type or mentality.

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    thats true, but i think those people need to start at like, age 6 and become a stand out athlete in their chosen field, then make the transition, picking up from the exact same point as our friend here, except with a background in a particular discipline already in place

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