Cardio

[Maccavelli]

Do people not see fedor doing speed distance running with vovchanchin and zenstov on the documentaries/youtube

Judging a fighters entire program by a youtube clip probably isnt the best way to base your ideas.

Sprints = great for improving work capacity and developing power
Long distance= Great for recovery.

imo

[simmy]

Judging a fighters entire program by a youtube clip probably isnt the best way to base your ideas.

Sprints = great for improving work capacity and developing power
Long distance= Great for recovery.

imo

I see your point but even my greco book states lsd running should be first hand and priority above sprint training..But one could incorporate both into same workout i guess..same routines wont work same for everyone..

[Rosi]

I see your point but even my greco book states lsd running should be first hand and priority above sprint training..But one could incorporate both into same workout i guess..same routines wont work same for everyone..

I think it does depend a lot on the individual... some will need to focus more on developing endurance, others on working speed and power. All depends on what you tend to be naturally good or bad at, and on how you like to fight.

[Duchman]

I see your point but even my greco book states lsd running should be first hand and priority above sprint training..But one could incorporate both into same workout i guess..same routines wont work same for everyone..

mma aint greco.

next to that dont judge training routines on what pros do. fedor etc are on of a kind

[simmy]

I was using fedors video as an example..and also the greco as examples...Karelin, fedor, vovchanchin, povetkin and more do lsd running 'when we see them on vids' but yes they could be doing sprints off camera too..Rosi is correct that all individuals are good and bad at certain things within training and they have to train up those weaknesses and also in my opinion..if a routine works for you, do not kep changing it as do alot of american programmes i have seen in past...Something i have noticed with certain heavyweight fighters, is that the sprint trainers seem to gas faster than lsd trainers with equal skill..that is only my opinion and based on what i have tried and seen within fights..

[livercrank]

After viewing some of the posts, even though you are all right and training levels vary depending on what results you gain from your exercise programmes etc. But I just think if you're training MMA you need to take the period of competition into consideration. Like a 40 min steady run would be good, but surely wouldnt 15 mins hill runs, plyometrics, circuits..basically intense and power endurance exercises, with 30 seconds rest is surely more beneficial. People will say so Im only going to last 15 minutes......YES!!! because thats all you need to train for. It can work against you if you do longer exercises, because you will subconsiously pace yourself.....lets face it, we're built to cheat sometimes and weve all paced ourselves with hard exercises occasionally. It is not being lazy or doing the minimal amount, its being smart and allowing yourself to continually compete around 160 - 170 rpm for the duration of the bout. Look at sean sherk for example...if anything, he does his steady run of a night or morning as a fat burning exercise to keep his weight down, as well as it being a cool down or good way to start the busy day. Some people defeat themselves before they even start by saying they cant do an exercise like that fullout (maybe so) but keep trying and defying the odds...our bodies are complex and we adapt very quickly to our surroundings and training.

[Emmet J]

I see your point but even my greco book states lsd running should be first hand and priority above sprint training.

Running on lsd never ends well.

[highlander1980]

Do people not see fedor doing speed distance running with vovchanchin and zenstov on the documentaries/youtube...I personally believe that hill sprints and sprints in general make a fighters legs lactate and feel pumped too fast causing fatigue (real bad for mma)..i have started to do distance 3-4miles working upto 7miles 3-4 times per week as my legs feel looser, faster and lighter when wrestling and striking..also whole body feels faster too..sprints just dont work for me..everyone to their own i guess..Oh and i eat shit loads of good wholesome foods whilst doing distance causing only excess fat loss if needed..

The lactate is good so that the body learns to deal with oxygen debt. However i will agree that doing it everytime you run is wasting training time as a varied routine helps recovery and works different energy pathways.
Every training session has an effect regardless of whether you want that effect or not. So i would say throw in some sprints but not to the stage where it affects other training you do. The same gos for weights lifting to failure builds big muscles but is that the effect you want? gymnasts go for good power to weight ration and dont often lift to failure they do low reps and good form.
I would say any training which puts you in oxygen debt is good but you should recover enough for it not to affect your next training session, if it does tone it down.

[MikeyL]

The best way to get fit for mma, is mma.

Try to get a copy of Bas Ruttens condtioning workout on audio, I think Nathen B must do it in his sleep lol

[Jamie Taylor]

Mikey you are so wrong its not even funny.

The bas workout is a purely aerobic workout, with a tiny bit of muscular endurance work ( press ups, sit ups, neck bridge ) Certainly nowhere near enough to get you fit for mma especially as theres huge rest periods during the 30 mins !!

To be fit for mma you need to improve all 3 energy systems. Aerobic, glycolitic and anaerobic.

Unfortunately the bas cd doesnt cut it in that respect. Sure it will increase your aerobic capacity if you do it regularly but please dont think it will get you fighting fit mate.

You know where I am if you need to ask anything !