Black Belt Roberto Atalla talks about BJJ Rules

[TRIBULUS]

If we have to have a points system, would things work better if there were 3 refs (from different teams) at matside and only if 2 out of 3 refs signal for a score does it count? And the only job of the centre ref is to keep the fighters on the mat, look for illegal grips and maintain fighters safety?

They had a situation like this in the finals at the europeans and it worked OK but there was a lot of attempting to influence the 3 referees.

I don't see how a coin toss can be described as unfair, in my opinion it is exactly the opposite. It's a 50-50 decision, ie fair.

If you are unable to sub your opponent in 10 minutes then you have to accept that the progression will be decided by chance.

In my opinion this would encourage people to go for the finish in the last couple of minutes rather than stalling for the last couple of minutes.

[Sir Tapsalot]

They had a situation like this in the finals at the europeans and it worked OK but there was a lot of attempting to influence the 3 referees.

In that situation a scoring system like in the one in use in Olympic Boxing might work. 2 out of 3 refs have to press their button within 1 sec of each other to register the score and it could be done anonymously to avoid too much heckling.

[Simon Hayes]

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That is EXACTLY the same system as Olympic Taekwondo,and it's very fair.

(I'm a qualified Taekwondo Ref! ha ha ha)

[Rob T]

I think it would be a little more difficult with BJJ though, 1 sec might not be a long enough window.

For TKD or boxing, 1 sec within a punch (or kick) landing is ample, but scores could be missed when you are having to judge when a sweep is complete or 2 seconds past the guard etc?

[Sir Tapsalot]

I think it would be a little more difficult with BJJ though, 1 sec might not be a long enough window.

For TKD or boxing, 1 sec within a punch (or kick) landing is ample, but scores could be missed when you are having to judge when a sweep is complete or 2 seconds past the guard etc?

1 sec was just a rough suggestion, but that window could be widened slightly. But if all refs are properly trained and are using the same criteria to judge when a sweep or pass is completed, then it shouldn't be impossible for a system like that to be used. It all really comes down to how serious are the IBJJF about improving the sport

[Rob T]

Yeah, I definitely think it would work.

[Sir Tapsalot]

Cool, well that's 2 of us on board - we can now set up our own rival BJJ organisation and implement our judging system! Look out Carlinhos, we're coming for you!!!