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    Why there is the huge difference between a Boxers wages and an MMA fighters wages?

    I'm talking about World top 5 Boxer in comparison to U.F.C. Championship Contender.

    I personally think Tito is right and the community should support his views-the reason he comes across as moaning is because he is on a one man crusade
    for a fair payday and is not getting the support from his peers he should be.

    Please can anyone logically tell me why Boxing is a bigger payday?

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    boxing has been round a lot longer and the pay has been going up and up ever since day one , this is my explanation , Im not saying its fair but thats why it is.

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    this is a stupid question

    the answer is because mma isnt boxing.
    you may as well ask why tennis players get paid more than table tennis players
    or why do footballers get paid more than rugby players
    or why does the guy down the road gets paid more than me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Hayes View Post
    Why there is the huge difference between a Boxers wages and an MMA fighters wages?

    I'm talking about World top 5 Boxer in comparison to U.F.C. Championship Contender.

    I personally think Tito is right and the community should support his views-the reason he comes across as moaning is because he is on a one man crusade
    for a fair payday and is not getting the support from his peers he should be.

    Please can anyone logically tell me why Boxing is a bigger payday?
    Boxing has a good corporate following. Although my background is with the corporate market and has been for over 30 years i am finding it dificult to market MMA to this market.

    I carried out a survey with my top 100 customers as to what their views were on Cage fighting. I had to use the words cage fighting as most of them had no idea what MMA was.
    Some of the reasons given left no doubt that MMA or cage fighting had a very bad reputation with fights breaking out and abuse being hurled during fights. I have now put on two events and both had fights break out. One fight lost us the venue and the other was controlled but never the less whilst in progress at least a dozen poeple made their way quickly to the door and will probably never attend another event.

    Other reasons were that in this day of equality many women would like to attend events but do not like the bad language that gets shouted across the venue. This is also apparent on forums where most contributors feel obligated to use foul language in most posts written. I liken it to the teenage kids that swear and smoke in front of adults as they believe we think they are big and that we are impressed. Someone should tell them that we laugh at them.

    MMA is considered the fastest growing sport in the world at this time. As to if that is true or not i have no idea but what i do know is that if our clientèle were to increase by way of harnessing the corporate market it would certainly be more profitable, easier to market and thus producing greater revenues enabling better wages for fighters.

    I dare say that some will say what a load of rubbish but i have to say that i made my money in the entertainment business and marketing to the corporate and the public sectors is something i have done for many years. Smell the coffee and clean up the sport.

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    This is how salary works.

    The principle that you earn a share of the revenue you create.

    Your boss will try to pay you the least you can before you getting upset and going to someone else who will pay you more. After all he wants to get paid the most he can for creating the entity you exercise your talent on.

    When you are indispensible to the company achieving his goals you can negotiate a better salary, often even better than you are worth.

    When when you are dispensible, you will get at most you value, if you cost more than your value, you will be dispensed.

    unfotunately as much as people like to complain about other than earn more than them. On the above rules people typically deserve what they earn. QED

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonmobiledisco View Post

    Queue the socialists.................
    Lining them up to shoot them?
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    i personally think that the top guys get paid fair enough anyway, i dont understand why they moan so much. of course MORE money would be nice, but i dont understand why they think they get picked on so much

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    I thought it was down to PPV buys. UFC biggest PPV buy was around 1 million I believe, Dana goes on about hitting that 1 Million buy Mark. Boxing gets around 3-4 million buys, world wide.

    Plus I think I am right in saying, the UFC under card fighters, get paid a fuck load more than any of the undercard fighters on a ricky hatton card for eg.

    I agree though, MMA fighters dont get paid enough at the highest level, all the PPV buys that the UFC get isnt because of Dana throwing the F-bomb about his fighters, its people tuning in to see fights..

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    MMA as a whole is seriously under payed but we need to give it time and the pay will rise.
    I reckon in 10 years time the UFC champs will be matching the likes of Hatton and Mayweather (ok maybe not Mayweather lol)

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    Quote Originally Posted by darthcrab View Post
    I thought it was down to PPV buys. UFC biggest PPV buy was around 1 million I believe, Dana goes on about hitting that 1 Million buy Mark. Boxing gets around 3-4 million buys, world wide.

    Plus I think I am right in saying, the UFC under card fighters, get paid a fuck load more than any of the undercard fighters on a ricky hatton card for eg.

    I agree though, MMA fighters dont get paid enough at the highest level, all the PPV buys that the UFC get isnt because of Dana throwing the F-bomb about his fighters, its people tuning in to see fights..
    This is a good discussion. Also remember that the UFC is a brand and people talk about UFC events now and then the fighters so it is very clever marketing as well meaning the brand is the most important selling point then come the fighters. I am not for one moment suggesting that the fighters don't deserve more.

    I also agree with the promoter that talked about crowd trouble. For some reason in my experience it goes hand in hand with the event. I've been to only two MMA events (one cagewarriors and one UFC) but both have had some degree of crowd trouble (pissed up blokes thinking they are hard as nails after a few pints).

    The image of the sport is not helped by this kind of thing. Having said that I've been to a local thai boxing event and there was trouble and also a big Warren boxing event and there was a bit of trouble. It's tied into masulinity and unforunately seems to bring out negative aspects of that.

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