I'd not like to give you wrong info... from what I understand (it might be rubbish)
Fruit spikes quickly... so rather than 80g of pasta that digest slowly and therefore allow you to stay full longer and goes torwards the running of the body, 80g of raisons will spike quickly and therefore you will get hungry quicker and the energy won't get put to function and therefore will be stored as fat.
I think Fruit right after or before training though like raisons / bannanas can be good because thesugar goes into your body and can be used to energise / repair... I'll wait for someone to give you a little more than GCSE level nutrition :P
I have put the important bit in bold...
Does Fruit Make You Fat?
Fruit is a healthy food, full of nutrients, high in fiber, vitamins, minerals, and low in fat and calories. Learn the truth about fruits and the myth that it will make you fat!
The old adage that your body is a temple is well known and still has relevance today. Without a solid foundation a temple cannot be successfully constructed and will eventually collapse. The same holds true for the human body. We at ISSA strive to educate our trainers regarding the synergism between proper exercise, nutrition and behavior modification to effectively draw their clientele into not just a good lifestyle, or even a better lifestyle, but the best way of life; a fitness lifestyle.
The importance of nutrition is imperative as the foundation of any successful fitness program. The core of this foundation should be based around food. Just as certain compounds are necessary to build a solid foundation in a building, specific foods are necessary to build a solid nutritional foundation. Since we have already discussed which foods aid in building this foundation through past articles, we will focus our attention on why certain foods that are considered healthy, actually may not aid in fat reduction.
Why Fruits Are Important!
With the advent of so many nutritional approaches to achieve the ideal look, numerous inquiries regarding the practice of omitting fruit, fruit juices or any of its derivatives from a diet have surfaced. Fruit is a healthy food, full of nutrients, high in fiber, vitamins, minerals, and low in fat and calories. It is a common practice for bodybuilders during pre-contest preparation to omit fruit from their diets, as it should be for anyone looking to minimize body fat. We will discuss the chemistry behind the efficacy of this practice.
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Our bodies can only absorb monosaccharides (glucose, galactose, or fructose), the single units of sugars and starches. Once absorbed through the small intestines into the portal vein, and then circulated into the bloodstream through the liver as blood glucose, our bodies can put glucose to work in three ways.
The Three Ways Our Bodies Put Glucose To Work:
* It can burn the glucose immediately for energy if blood glucose levels are not at a stable level of 20 grams blood borne glucose circulating per hour.
* If it is not needed for energy immediately, then it is converted into glycogen in the liver or muscles. The liver has the capacity to store 100 grams of glycogen. The muscles have the capacity to store between 250-400 grams of glycogen, depending on muscle mass and physical condition. Liver glycogen supplies energy for the entire body. Muscle glycogen only supplies energy to muscles.
* If the body has an excess of glucose, and all of the glycogen stores are full, the surplus glucose is converted to fat by the liver and stored as adipose tissue (bodyfat) around the body. If needed, fatty acids can be burned as fuel (BUT the fat cannot be converted back to glucose).
Now that we have outlined how our bodies use glucose, we will discuss why fruit (fructose or fruit sugar) is detrimental in an attempt to maximize fat loss. Since muscles have the specific purpose of contraction, they have a limited number of enzymes for glycogen synthesis. Muscle only has the necessary enzymes to convert glucose (and nothing else) into glycogen. The liver, however, is able to make glycogen from fructose, lactate, glycerol, alanine, and other three-carbon metabolites. Muscle glycogen, which is similar in structure to starch, is an amylopectin (branched chained polymer containing hundreds of glucose units). Unlike muscles, which can only supply energy to themselves through the stored 250-400 grams of glycogen, the liver is responsible for supplying energy to the entire body.
If You Have Fruit, Fruit Juice, Or Any Of Its Derivatives, The Following Conditions Occur:
Referring to the three ways the body uses glucose, assuming that blood glucose levels are adequate, the glucose will then be stored as glycogen. Muscle does not have the necessary enzymes to synthesize fructose into glycogen; therefore the liver converts this fructose into liver glycogen. It would only take three, 8-ounce glasses of orange juice to fully replenish liver glycogen stores. Since the liver is responsible for supplying energy to the entire body, once its stores are full, a rate limiting enzyme in glucose metabolism, which is responsible for signaling the body to store glucose as glycogen or convert it to fat (phosphofructokinase), signals the body that all stores are full. If the glycogen stores are signaled as full, then the third way our body uses excess glucose is to convert it to fatty acids and store as adipose tissue. In essence, fruit sugar is easily converted to fat.
Many may be asking why then is fruit low on the glycemic index? If it does not cause a sudden release of insulin, then how could it ever be a poor food choice? Once the fructose (fruit sugar) enters the liver and liver glycogen is already full, then it cannot be used by the muscles for glycogen or energy production.
It is converted to fat and released back into the bloodstream to be stored as adipose tissue. The low glycemic response is based on the fact that fructose leaves the liver as fat, and fat does not raise insulin levels.
This is the biochemistry behind the recommendations to limit fruit in your diet. As mentioned, fruit is a very nutritious food full of vitamins, minerals, fiber, and low in calories and fat. If your goal is to exclusively to minimize bodyfat, then it is advisable that you consume more complex carbohydrates, which will go to replenishing muscle glycogen stores rather than fruit, which will only replenish liver glycogen stores, and is useless in muscle glycogen replenishment.
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Yup... fruit is full of sugar. Yummy carbs. Mmmm. Carbs get a bad press - nothing wrong with them, if you include them at the right time, in the right amounts for the right reasons. You need carbs to train effectively.
So, yeah - you might want to cut them out in the last week or so of a weight cut when you're dropping glycogen, but otherwise it's not worth getting worked up about a few oranges in your diet.
It amazes me how many people I've spoken to who think fruit is bad because it's got lots of sugar in, but quite happily eat BBQ chicken wings or have a couple of pints of beer in the evening...
BTW, contrary to popular opinion humans are remarkably inefficient at converting carbohydrates to fats for storage. The way carbs contribute to obesity is by stimulating your body to burn carbs and store any fat from your diet.... If you eat a high carbohydrate diet, but are religious about keeping a VERY low fat intake then you won't put on much (if any fat). It would probably be pretty bad for you in the long term, but that's a whole different question.
thanks guys, the problem is I have started eating fruit in the evening, grapes , oranges , raisins... i am pretty active in the evening, training , running, weights... i just worried if you can eat to much..
in the next 2 weeks I am going to start cutting for a fight in june (19th) i need to cut 8lbs..or there abouts .. My diet is very clean (stapes put it together for me and it has delivered the goods and beyond)
I was sitting on the beach Saturday evening and before I knew it I had smashed a bag of grapes, 2 oranges and an apple... thats when i thought "its ok , you can eat as much fruit as you like..." but i guess this is the case..
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