Riot

[mma boss]

Anyone got ant info on the riot last night in doncaster?

[sol_dave]

edit ,due to reading first thread!

[Luke]

http://www.cagewarriors.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=38378

This riot, from Phoenix Fights?

QUOTE FROM ABOVE THREAD, NOT A QUOTE FROM ME

"Like many people tonight I am absolutely livid about what happened at Phoenix Fights 'Retribution'.

Now where shall I start...
Aptly name it was. Because throwing several hundred bottles and (amongst other things) a pool table from the balcony at an innocent crowd (including children, pregnant women etc) seems like fair retribution for a doctor stopppage due to an early freak/accidental split eye brow ...to a group of churlish morons.

If anyoneone knows anyone responsible for this riot then please turn them in, because they are not fit to walk amongst us as human beings.

I must also say, what the hell were the organisers doing, organising a show with no fewer than seventeen fights, two thousand(?) people in the venue, with zero security staff or cops present? ...especially after the dangers of this (just incase they could not work it out for themselves) had been pointed out to them.

So after over four heavy drinking hours in the venue – not that the time factor in anyway excuses the reprobates that were involed in the riot – it was 11:15PM and only eleven of the seventeen fights had been completed. The venue got trashed beyond belief. What must have been the entire police force of several surrounding towns piled into and around the venue. Phoenix or for that matter any MMA are never likely to be using that venue again. The twelve most highly rated fighters there have all wasted what will total between them several years of training. Newspapers are going to have a field day. Everyone, fighters, spectators, promoters, present or not present that evening will be a loser.

I repeat, will everyone please do all they can to track down, bring to legal justice, and ban from MMA venues, those individuals that were responsible for the indescriminate violence"

[Valour5]

I feel a lot of the people who fight/train/follow MMA in this country give the reputation of the sport a very bad name.

Look at the Pro fighters in Japan, UFC, Brazil.... those at the top level are mainly gents who would distance themselves from any kind of trouble, bother, violence, shit like this etc.

In this country it's the total opposite, how many pro fighters often talk openly on here about there trials and tribulations with the law, getting into shit with the police, being in prison, getting arrested, getting into brawls on nights out, playing the hard doorman role in there sidejobs at weekends and knocking drunks out for virtually no reason etc etc... it's all bollocks.

The term proffessional MMA in this country leaves a lot to be desired and although I know i'll get a panning for saying this, I don't care.

[Dave Hirst]

how many pro fighters often talk openly on here about there trials and tribulations with the law, getting into shit with the police, being in prison, getting arrested, getting into brawls on nights out, playing the hard doorman role in there sidejobs at weekends and knocking drunks out for virtually no reason etc etc...

None that I can remember... can you point me in the direction of any posts on here?

[Valour5]

None that I can remember... can you point me in the direction of any posts on here?

In other words.... "Name names or shut the fuck up"

[UltimatePunch]

[QUOTE=Valour5;363857]I feel a lot of the people who fight/train/follow MMA in this country give the reputation of the sport a very bad name.

Look at the Pro fighters in Japan, UFC, Brazil.... those at the top level are mainly gents who would distance themselves from any kind of trouble, bother, violence, shit like this etc.

In this country it's the total opposite, how many pro fighters often talk openly on here about there trials and tribulations with the law, getting into shit with the police, being in prison, getting arrested, getting into brawls on nights out, playing the hard doorman role in there sidejobs at weekends and knocking drunks out for virtually no reason etc etc... it's all bollocks.
QUOTE]

A few dicks throw a pool table and glass bottles and kick off like a bunch of cunts and now its the uk mma scene and pro fighters fault ?

Unfair mate, its not the case. Boxing and football has this problem aswell. UK MMA is growing and we will continue to attract dicks like this regardless of what fighters choose to talk about. Yet they are a minority and comments like that don't help.

[Valour5]

A few dicks throw a pool table and glass bottles and kick off like a bunch of cunts and now its the uk mma scene and pro fighters fault ?

No, but take a look at SOME fighters in the UK, they hardly set a good example, some of them are nothing but thugs who are given a license to fight.

As has been said before, the term being "proffessional" and fighting "Pro-rules" are two totally different things in this country.

[Leesin]

In this country ? in every country mate, if you think you don't get your fair share of guys like that all over the world then you're naive.

Also yeah, name names or direct to the posts where these pro fighters are all talking about how they knock drunks out for no reason and go out getting into trouble with the law from illegal things they do, otherwise what you said just makes you sound like a twat.

[peggle]

I feel a lot of the people who fight/train/follow MMA in this country give the reputation of the sport a very bad name.

Look at the Pro fighters in Japan, UFC, Brazil.... those at the top level are mainly gents who would distance themselves from any kind of trouble, bother, violence, shit like this etc.

In this country it's the total opposite, how many pro fighters often talk openly on here about there trials and tribulations with the law, getting into shit with the police, being in prison, getting arrested, getting into brawls on nights out, playing the hard doorman role in there sidejobs at weekends and knocking drunks out for virtually no reason etc etc... it's all bollocks.

The term proffessional MMA in this country leaves a lot to be desired and although I know i'll get a panning for saying this, I don't care.

I have to agree with this, I don't know why so many people are getting mad at this guy when what he says is self evidently true. It goes beyond the fighters though.

Of course different nationalities support mma in different ways and I'm not saying a crowd should be quietly appreciative and give a golf clap at every reversal or sub attempt like the Japanese (although I do think they are the best fans). But UK mma does have a very backward following and image, often self promoted, compared to some other countries. I actually think it's regressed, a while ago I thought bright "ideas" like getting Dave Courtney to auction off his favourite knuckle duster were behind us but I think with the scaling back in size of a lot of shows it's getting back to that.

When you have promotions fronted by bald headed bouncers going into spastic contortions about what a "tear up" every fight is going to be, really, what do you expect the overall image and progression of this sport to be here?

In Japan you have organisations like Deep, Pancrase, Shooto etc with esoteric names, recognisable individual style and a long tradition. Here every show is a forgettable acronym involving "cage" "warrior" "titan" blah blah - My point is the basic aesthetic is shit and geared to the lowest common denominator, I don't think it will ever particularly change to be honest.

Every month or so there is the "Lee Murray thread": regurgitating the fight with Tito and generally what a salt of the earth, lovable Cockney gangster he was (er, that held someones family up at gunpoint) it's pathetic really.

Lee H basically said as much in fewer words, this is the person that brought the sport to this country, if he's weary of it then it says a lot really.